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norseamd

norseamd

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Paradox has a huge sale on steam right now. Any of you guys have suggestions for what to buy?

I got the rest of the DLC for the free Warlock I got from the Humble free game a week sale. Was looking at maybe the Crusader Kings 2 collection, the Paradox Grand Strategy Collection for only $9, or the Cities in Motion Collection. How good is Cities in Motion as a game? Is the Crusader Kings 2 DLC any good? And I am Norwegian so the Old Gods DLC is very interesting to me.
 
if you have none get one of the big packs. Otherwise I'd look for complete w/dlc collections that all have a good sale price. Very little they make is bad/not fun, they just do a whole lot of dlc now so I normally wait till they are about done putting that stuff out and get it all together.
 
lupi said:
if you have none get one of the big packs. Otherwise I'd look for complete w/dlc collections that all have a good sale price. Very little they make is bad/not fun, they just do a whole lot of dlc now so I normally wait till they are about done putting that stuff out and get it all together.
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Are they done producing DLC for Crusader Kings 2?
 
sandorski said:
Europa Universalis IV would be a good choice.
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Although I am more interested in Crusader Kings 2 that also looks nice. I have tried the demo and gone through some of the tutorial. I am very interested in playing as some type of faction that is Scandinavian or advanced intellectually, culturally, and has huge trade that is conducted with distant countries. I would like to get to the New world first and interact with the Indigenous ethnicities and try to build up a indigenous country that would survive into the end of the game.
 
I love Paradox strategy games (except Hearts of Iron, too complicated even for me). 522 hours played of CK2, 313 hours played of EU4 and probably around 160 hours played of V2. I would recommend getting this:
- If you can only afford one game, get CK2. It's older so more 'mature' and DLCs are out. I would play a first game without any DLC activated, then activate them one by one in the order they were released (Sword of Islam, Legacy of Rome, The Republic, The Old Gods, Rajas of India), otherwise you'll have too many options in a game that already has a big learning curve as it is.

- If you can afford two games, get CK2 and EU4. EU4 is also a fun game, different to CK2 in that you are a 'nation' while in CK2 you are a 'dynasty'. Both are great.

- If you can afford three games, get CK2, EU4 and Victoria 2. V2 is actually an older game, made before the big Paradox revolution that started with CK2, so the interface is less friendly (we're all hoping they'll announce Victoria 3 in January). It's a less 'war' game, with more trade and diplomacy options.
 
SLU Aequitas said:
Yeah...saw that and started backing away. I would love CiM if it were actually good, but that's more me needing a decent, modern SimCity...
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Well when I was considering Cities in Motion I was actually thinking about Cities XL so nevermind about buying that game.
 
xantub said:
I love Paradox strategy games (except Hearts of Iron, too complicated even for me). 522 hours played of CK2, 313 hours played of EU4 and probably around 160 hours played of V2. I would recommend getting this:
- If you can only afford one game, get CK2. It's older so more 'mature' and DLCs are out. I would play a first game without any DLC activated, then activate them one by one in the order they were released (Sword of Islam, Legacy of Rome, The Republic, The Old Gods, Rajas of India), otherwise you'll have too many options in a game that already has a big learning curve as it is.

- If you can afford two games, get CK2 and EU4. EU4 is also a fun game, different to CK2 in that you are a 'nation' while in CK2 you are a 'dynasty'. Both are great.

- If you can afford three games, get CK2, EU4 and Victoria 2. V2 is actually an older game, made before the big Paradox revolution that started with CK2, so the interface is less friendly (we're all hoping they'll announce Victoria 3 in January). It's a less 'war' game, with more trade and diplomacy options.
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Thinking about getting the Grand Strategy pack and then just getting the content DLC for Crusader Kings 2 as it is cheaper than getting the Crusader Kings Collection and I also get EU4, Victoria 2, and HOI 3. The noncontent DLC for Crusader King 2 would be nice but it seems like too much for what I get and I only have so much money to spend right now. I might also consider the content DLC for EU 4.

Yah HOI looks very complicated with hundreds of military units to micromanage so I am not going to worry about getting that game right now but if it comes with the Grand Strategy Collection than that is all good.
 
norseamd said:
Thinking about getting the Grand Strategy pack and then just getting the content DLC for Crusader Kings 2 as it is cheaper than getting the Crusader Kings Collection and I also get EU4, Victoria 2, and HOI 3. The noncontent DLC for Crusader King 2 would be nice but it seems like too much for what I get and I only have so much money to spend right now. I might also consider the content DLC for EU 4.

Yah HOI looks very complicated with hundreds of military units to micromanage so I am not going to worry about getting that game right now but if it comes with the Grand Strategy Collection than that is all good.
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I haven't checked, but do the 2 expansions come with Victoria 2 in the Grand Strategy pack? Unlike CK2 and EU4 where expansions are optional, in V2 they are mandatory, they introduce fixes and balancing that the original game needs.
EDIT: Just checked and it doesn't come with them, so if you go that route make sure to get "A House Divided" and "Heart of Darkness".
 
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Well I only got some of the cheaper stuff on sale. Paradox decided to raise the price of the Grand Strategy Pack from $9 to $23. I have a lot different opinion of Paradox after this sale then I did earlier these last few years or so. This sale seems like it might have been meant to set up more sales for the upcoming Charlemagne DLC for Crusader Kings 2. The Crusader Kings 2 Complete Collection is $40 right now but normally it goes for an outrageous $160. most of this is noncontent DLC like unit graphics and songs and crap. The songs might make sense but most of the other crap does not. They even charge you for the ability to change the appearance of your own character, make your own character, or even convert your game to EU 4. Most of this DLC is stuff that belongs in the base game and the expansion DLC. Even the expansion DLC is of only moderate size and it sells for a premium of $15 each on release. Look at this push article fro PC Gamer on Crusader Kings 2. They even try to use awe and confusion to hide their advertisement of low quality DLC.

http://www.pcgamer.com/crusader-kings-2-charlemagne-expansion-lands-in-just-over-a-week/
 
norseamd said:
Thinking about getting the Grand Strategy pack and then just getting the content DLC for Crusader Kings 2 as it is cheaper than getting the Crusader Kings Collection and I also get EU4, Victoria 2, and HOI 3. The noncontent DLC for Crusader King 2 would be nice but it seems like too much for what I get and I only have so much money to spend right now. I might also consider the content DLC for EU 4.

Yah HOI looks very complicated with hundreds of military units to micromanage so I am not going to worry about getting that game right now but if it comes with the Grand Strategy Collection than that is all good.
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HOI 3 has a lot of micro-management, but HOI2 is pretty manageable. You feel like it is World War 2 and you control one of the armies in the war but it does not feel tedious like HOI3 does. The best HOI 2-based game would be Darkest Hour.
 
Take back my previous statement about PC Gamer promoting the small DLC since I never saw the last sentence which says that none of it was essential. At least they had the logic to not go fully along with that crap. Paradox is even selling the book Wealth of Nations as a E-book DLC when the full book has been public domain for centuries.
 
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