Paper/cardboard Rings/washers In MOBO bag

[starwars7]

Hey all, my mobo came with little paper/cardboard rings/washers, I've never had a mobo come with these before, is there any disadvantage to using them when I mount it?

 

[thescreensavers]

cardboard rings,ahah probably just something for shipping, just use the stand offs

 

[starwars7]

thanks for the info

 

[Fishy007]

Originally posted by: starwars7
Hey all, my mobo came with little paper/cardboard rings/washers, I've never had a mobo come with these before, is there any disadvantage to using them when I mount it?

Are they small and red/brown? About the right size to fit around one of the screws that attaches your mobo to the case?

If so, then (as far as I know) those were used to prevent shorts from happening with the metal screws and the motherboard. You'd put them on top of the holes and then put the screw through.

I don't think most modern motherboards need them though. They all have silver 'washers' built right in and just popping the screw in won't cause any shorts unless you've severely bent something.

(I could be wrong about all of this....if so, let me know)

 

[starwars7]

that sounds about right fishy, that's what I thought they were for at first, but since the other pc I built didn't have them, I was a little confused. based on what you said, I'm guessing they are no longer necessary, so most mobo manufacturers don't ship them anymore.

 

[PianoMan]

Call me anal , but I always put those in on the top motherboard side before screwing it down. But Fishy's right - the silver rings on the mobo already does that function quite well, so I doubt you need them.

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[Raider1284]

Better safe then sorry, but you motherboard should have come with plastic washers, not paper ones. I would seriously doubt a motherboard company would ship paper washers, they were probally just used for shipping.

 

[PianoMan]

Hmmm... all the mobo's I've installed have come with paper washers bagged up with all the mounting hardware. Never seen plastics. Maybe I'm buying too cheep?

And very true: better safe than sorry. [Well, in my case, anal. ]

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[gsellis]

The paper washers were the difference between my ASUS PC-DL posting and not posting. You can try without, but if "no workee", put them in. Since you have do remove about everything to put them on, just do it and be done with it.

 

[starwars7]

thanks guys, I tried it without them since I had skrewed the MOBO down already, and it worked, so hopefully thats that. In the future I'll use the paper/plastic washers, figure you're right, better safe than sorry.

 

[Bob Anderson]

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I don't think most modern motherboards need them though. They all have silver 'washers' built right in and just popping the screw in won't cause any shorts unless you've severely bent something.

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That's right.

-Bob

 

[Zepper]

Generally the mobo itself won't come with fiber (fancy name for paper) washers - they come in the screw pack with the case. If the mobo itself actually does come with them, then you'd be wise to use them.

I use them to help allow for the thermal cycling (expansion/contraction) of the mobo as I don't leave mine powered on all the time - usually on once a day and off once a day. I have plenty in my parts box. I leave the fiber washer off of the one screw nearest the center of the mobo to ensure good grounding and the central screw will be least effected by thermal cycling. In the old days, most mobos were mounted with lots of plastic standoffs that had built-in flexibility with only a few screw-down standoffs. Then the washers were actually used to help prevent shorting to nearby components and or gouging the fiberglass - the mounting holes were ofen much closer to components and lacked the large tinned lands that are the rule today..

The moral: Use 'em if you got 'em. That's my story and I'm sticking to it...

.bh.

 

[jackschmittusa]

I have built a couple hundred rigs over the years and never used them. I have worked on countless factory boxes as well, and never seen them used.