Paper backups for e-voting machines?

[AFB]

See poll and explain your answer(why or why not). Thanks

 

[glugglug]

Printed backups are ESSENTIAL as an audit trail so that there can be a meaningful recount when the questions arise later.

 

[miketheidiot]

good idea but not gonna happen.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
good idea but not gonna happen.

I think I know the answer, but would you be willing to tell us why?

 

[miketheidiot]

Because certain poeple like having them not there and can make up crap about costing too much to immpliment and people will buy their BS. Look at how people resisted it this time around. I don't think that its going to change, even if the widespread and not-insignifigant problems and irregularities actually get some decent attention.

 

[klah]

HR2239
S1980
http://thomas.loc.gov

The voting system shall produce a permanent paper record, each individual paper record of which shall be made available for inspection and verification by the voter at the time the vote is cast, and preserved within the polling place in the manner in which all other paper ballots are preserved within the polling place on Election Day for later use in any manual audit.

Write your Congressman and Senators and tell them you want their support of these two bills.

 

[gutharius]

Explain? There is no reason not to. Other than the possibility the volunteers would not know how to maintain the technology. Personally I am for the bubble in ballots. Who can mess that up? And if the do just ask for another. This whole Evote thing is totally unecessary.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Jeb Bush didn't have them installed in Florida which was in violation of Florida law. There was a bill in Congress that was shot down by Republicans which would've made a paper trail mandatory when using e-voting machines.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Jeb Bush didn't have them installed in Florida which was in violation of Florida law. There was a bill in Congress that was shot down by Republicans which would've made a paper trail mandatory when using e-voting machines.

Link to why?

 

[chess9]

The state doesn't buy voting machines in Florida; the counties and incorporated cities buy them. Regardless, paper trail machines would have been more expensive. You have no constitutional right to an accurate vote count. Close is good enough for democracy.

-Robert

 

[charrison]

I think the ideal sitiuation is touch screen voting that generates a paper ballot that can then be counted by a scanner later. Having both a computer count and paper count will lead to having 2 different totals.

 

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: charrison
I think the ideal sitiuation is touch screen voting that generates a paper ballot that can then be counted by a scanner later. Having both a computer count and paper count will lead to having 2 different totals.

Hmm, thats almost the same thing I posted yesterday in another thread, with the addition of submitting a fingerprint when registering and using a fingerprint scanner on the touchscreen machine which would be checked against a national database. It was my thinking that that "should" get rid of fraudulent/duplicate voting, but I'm sure it'd never sell. Makes too much sense. The general idea sounds pretty attractive to me though. In Florida, we're already using the optical scanners in most places now that don't use the touch screens, and in those that aren't it would only take one scanner per precinct. Sounds like a pretty cheap backup system. I don't at all like the idea of no paper trail or backup system with electronic voting. There's just too many ways data can go *POOF!* at the worst times.