Panzer Dragoon Orta, anyone buy it yet?

CrowDog

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This game is awsome...beat it in 2h49min on easy...anyone else try it yet?
 

Spoooon

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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: polm
how awsome could it be if you beat it in 3 freakin hours ?
My sentiments exactly.

The graphics and stuff. Besides, you can beat Resident Evil in two hours. Just because he beat it in 3 hours doesn't mean you can't spend 20 hours at it unlocking stuff. ;)
 

polm

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in fact...I was going to buy it today, and then I read your thread.
 

CrowDog

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Originally posted by: polm
how awsome could it be if you beat it in 3 freakin hours ?

Its great oldschool action man...How long did it take to beat any oldschool game? I remember playing through Super Mario in a half hour....yet its one of the greatest games of all time. The game is meant to be played through many times and master the ten levals....Man I loved the days of "High Score".....There are also hundreds of things to be unlocked...including the full version of the origanal Panzer Dragoon! :)

I understand what ya mean thogh, there are times when I like a lengthy game that takes alot of time and through....but this is a Great change of pace and Im glad I didnt pass it up cuz someone said it only lasts 3hrs through the main game.....Ill proly beat it 50 times and play through all the unlocked missions and extras...thats alot of play time:)

 

Maverick

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I thought it didn't come out till february....or do you have one of those "special" versions? ;)
 

CrowDog

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Originally posted by: Shiva112
I thought it didn't come out till february....or do you have one of those "special" versions? ;)

?... Came out yesterday.....

 

kami

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Yes it si amazing. And it will be as short as you want it to be...this game is so damn fun. Not since NES have I had so much fun trying to get good scores, fighting off seemingly impossible hordes of enemies, and incredible bosses that we never see anymore.

If you beat it on all 3 difficulties you'll unlock the original Panzer Dragoon game. Plus there's a bunch of bonus missions to unlock, and the whole history of the panzer dragoon world/story plus a bunch of other stuff.

Oh, and it's the best looking video game I've ever seen on any platform. I died on the second level when I was flying under the waterfall cause I was mesmerized by the scenery.

IMO this is a must own game if you have an Xbox. It does not even feel "railed."

Wow just wow :Q
 

kami

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oh sweet, nevermind then. well dont you have to beat all 3 difficulties to unlock something?? i remember reading that somewhere
 

CrowDog

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Originally posted by: kami
oh sweet, nevermind then. well dont you have to beat all 3 difficulties to unlock something?? i remember reading that somewhere

I hope so:) Ill find out tho Im sure....

 

kami

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Hmm...worried about a 3 hour game. Is there any multiplay to it?

no.

and this game is about quality, not quantity. i can see why it took them so long to make
 

CrowDog

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Hmm...worried about a 3 hour game. Is there any multiplay to it?

Well if you just plan to play it one time on one difficulty then dont get it. But if youve ever played an awsome game back in the day that you just had beat 50 times and still played....then this is great....

Like I said before..this game is meant to be mastered....and you will most likeley want to master it and unlock everything......that will take a very long time....you will still pop this game in over a year from now for some quick old school fun



 

StageLeft

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Given my type of playing style I'd say that for me at least this is a perfect rental. Excellent but short. I am not normally into big unlockings...
 

Tallgeese

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Given my type of playing style I'd say that for me at least this is a perfect rental. Excellent but short. I am not normally into big unlockings...
I never was either...

UNTIL I PLAYED SOUL CALIBUR ON DREAMCAST!!!

Man, I played the bejeebus out of that game.
Havin the Dreamcast Arcade Stick helped tho.

I'm gonna give the PDO demo another runthrough tonight.
 
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Given my type of playing style I'd say that for me at least this is a perfect rental. Excellent but short. I am not normally into big unlockings...

Same here - it does sound worth a rental in any case.

 

kami

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Here's a great review from another forum...if this doesn't make you want to buy the game, nothing will.

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In 1995, Sega shocked the world by unleashing the Saturn a good 6 months before the scheduled date. Although the lineup was limited, the stellar Panzer Dragoon was reason enough to own a Saturn. It met with rave reviews, and quickly developed a cult following. At the time it was released, its visuals were unparalleled, and even today, I can count on one hand the games that have come close to matching its art design.

In 1996, Sega followed up on the original with Panzer Dragoon 2: Zwei. At a time when the Saturn was fighting for its life with the PS1 amidst rumors of technical inferiority, PD2 added some much needed credibility. In fact, Panzer visually outmatched everything else on the market yet again, and the art design makes it a pretty game even by today's standards.

In 1998, the series faltered a bit. Sega strayed from PD's roots, and released Panzer Dragoon Saga, an action RPG. This too met with rave reviews, although some fans of the series were turned off by the change.

Fast forward to 2003. Smilebit has returned the series to its former glory and then some with the magnificent Panzer Dragoon Orta. It's a simple, on rails shooter. The main mode can be finished in around 2 hours by a competent player. And if this bothers you at all, you don't deserve to have your Xbox graced by the Dragoon's mighty presence. Panzer Dragoon is a throwback to the time when games were played instead of watched. Instead of living for the next level up, however many hours away it may be, a PDO player will appreciate every masterfully crafted second.

Visuals: Panzer Dragoon is knock down, drag out, have an orgasm gorgeous. Nothing else on the market right now can even think about trying to compare. If you don't have a HDTV yet, go out and buy one. It would be a sin to experience this game on anything less. Everything is perfect, everything runs at a silky smooth 60FPS. Glorious art design. Insanely crisp textures. Absolutely no jaggies. Incredible lighting. Wicked particle effects. Perfect character models. Whether its soaring over a stream through a tree dotted canyon, or penetrating deeper into a strange techno world, this game hits its mark, and hits it hard. If you're looking for proof that the Xbox is capable of CG quality graphics, here it is. 15/10



Audio: Fans of the series will instantly fall in love with the excellently orchestrated soundtrack. The music feels as if it was remixed from the earlier games, and given a dash of techno to boot. The sounds are exactly what you'd want and expect. The lasers, blaster, and disgruntled dragon shriek have made the leap to the Xbox quite nicely. My only qualm here is the lack of music on the title screen, which just feels a bit odd. 9.8/10



Gameplay: Panzer Dragoon Orta is the deepest and most complicated rail shooter to come down the pipeline. In the first Panzer Dragoon, simply rotating 360 degrees and downing enemies was enough to keep a skilled gamer on his toes. Now though:

L/R buttons rotate your view and allow you to shoot beside and behind the dragon

The fire button can be either pressed to shoot a salvo of fire, or it can be held to allow the dragon to lock onto multiple enemies and fire a homing laser

There are buttons to execute a brake and a speed boost

Pressing the berserk button when your charge meter is full will release a cathartic burst of lasers, painting the screen a wicked reverse negative shade and basically killing anything

And most importantly, yet another button switches between your three dragon forms, all of which level up independently.

The standard form has decent speed, laser, and dash ability, and can lock on to the highest number of targets. Its berserk attack is a wild shower of lasers.

The heavy form shoots slower but more powerful bullets. The lasers can only lock onto 3 enemies at once. It has the best defense, but cannot dash. Its berserk attack is a thick, highly damaging beam.

The light form is the quickest, and has the best dash ability. It has a wide targeting range and extreme rapid fire that works well to shoot down incoming missiles. In addition, the fire is homing. However, it does not have any lock on lasers. The berserk attack is the weakest, however it will restore a small amount of your health.

Depending on the situation, you constantly morph between these 3 forms. The feel is similar to the new Contra game, and Project Ikaruga. However, while the old, more obscene powerups seen in Radiant Silvergun and early Contra games were more preferable to the new systems, it works perfectly in Panzer Dragoon Orta. Since the Dragoon was never obscenely powerful in earlier games, fans of the series aren't going to be missing the ''spread shot'', among other things. Great levels and fantastic bosses round out the deep gameplay system. In addition, it's got great replay. There are several difficulty levels, and this is a game that begs to be played more than once. There are also a slew of unlockables, including THE ENTIRE FIRST PANZER DRAGOON, and a nifty little side quest. Most of the levels also have two or more completely different branching paths to check out. Two plus hours for a straight playthrough is about as long as shooters get anyways. Although you'll probably be so sucked in that you see the credits the first night you play, there is plenty more to do and you'll come back for the ride for years to come. Gameplay: 10/10

There isn't much more to say here. Smilebit has created a magnificent experience that transcends the normal boundaries of a ''game'' and becomes art. Indeed, half the fun is simply taking in the glorious scenery. In a day and age where 50 hour games might throw out something interesting once every hour or two, it's refreshing to play a game where the programmers have focused on making every second count. It was a very ballsy move of Sega to make this game in today's finicky market. It was an even ballsyier move to sacrifice an incredible amount of profit to put the game on the Xbox instead of the PS2. This game would not have been the same with lesser hardware, and Sega has my respect for giving up profits to uphold the legacy of the series.

The final score, as if you even needed to ask, is a perfect 10/10.
 

LinuxIdiot

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Originally posted by: kami
Here's a great review from another forum...if this doesn't make you want to buy the game, nothing will.

--------------------

In 1995, Sega shocked the world by unleashing the Saturn a good 6 months before the scheduled date. Although the lineup was limited, the stellar Panzer Dragoon was reason enough to own a Saturn. It met with rave reviews, and quickly developed a cult following. At the time it was released, its visuals were unparalleled, and even today, I can count on one hand the games that have come close to matching its art design.

In 1996, Sega followed up on the original with Panzer Dragoon 2: Zwei. At a time when the Saturn was fighting for its life with the PS1 amidst rumors of technical inferiority, PD2 added some much needed credibility. In fact, Panzer visually outmatched everything else on the market yet again, and the art design makes it a pretty game even by today's standards.

In 1998, the series faltered a bit. Sega strayed from PD's roots, and released Panzer Dragoon Saga, an action RPG. This too met with rave reviews, although some fans of the series were turned off by the change.

Fast forward to 2003. Smilebit has returned the series to its former glory and then some with the magnificent Panzer Dragoon Orta. It's a simple, on rails shooter. The main mode can be finished in around 2 hours by a competent player. And if this bothers you at all, you don't deserve to have your Xbox graced by the Dragoon's mighty presence. Panzer Dragoon is a throwback to the time when games were played instead of watched. Instead of living for the next level up, however many hours away it may be, a PDO player will appreciate every masterfully crafted second.

Visuals: Panzer Dragoon is knock down, drag out, have an orgasm gorgeous. Nothing else on the market right now can even think about trying to compare. If you don't have a HDTV yet, go out and buy one. It would be a sin to experience this game on anything less. Everything is perfect, everything runs at a silky smooth 60FPS. Glorious art design. Insanely crisp textures. Absolutely no jaggies. Incredible lighting. Wicked particle effects. Perfect character models. Whether its soaring over a stream through a tree dotted canyon, or penetrating deeper into a strange techno world, this game hits its mark, and hits it hard. If you're looking for proof that the Xbox is capable of CG quality graphics, here it is. 15/10



Audio: Fans of the series will instantly fall in love with the excellently orchestrated soundtrack. The music feels as if it was remixed from the earlier games, and given a dash of techno to boot. The sounds are exactly what you'd want and expect. The lasers, blaster, and disgruntled dragon shriek have made the leap to the Xbox quite nicely. My only qualm here is the lack of music on the title screen, which just feels a bit odd. 9.8/10



Gameplay: Panzer Dragoon Orta is the deepest and most complicated rail shooter to come down the pipeline. In the first Panzer Dragoon, simply rotating 360 degrees and downing enemies was enough to keep a skilled gamer on his toes. Now though:

L/R buttons rotate your view and allow you to shoot beside and behind the dragon

The fire button can be either pressed to shoot a salvo of fire, or it can be held to allow the dragon to lock onto multiple enemies and fire a homing laser

There are buttons to execute a brake and a speed boost

Pressing the berserk button when your charge meter is full will release a cathartic burst of lasers, painting the screen a wicked reverse negative shade and basically killing anything

And most importantly, yet another button switches between your three dragon forms, all of which level up independently.

The standard form has decent speed, laser, and dash ability, and can lock on to the highest number of targets. Its berserk attack is a wild shower of lasers.

The heavy form shoots slower but more powerful bullets. The lasers can only lock onto 3 enemies at once. It has the best defense, but cannot dash. Its berserk attack is a thick, highly damaging beam.

The light form is the quickest, and has the best dash ability. It has a wide targeting range and extreme rapid fire that works well to shoot down incoming missiles. In addition, the fire is homing. However, it does not have any lock on lasers. The berserk attack is the weakest, however it will restore a small amount of your health.

Depending on the situation, you constantly morph between these 3 forms. The feel is similar to the new Contra game, and Project Ikaruga. However, while the old, more obscene powerups seen in Radiant Silvergun and early Contra games were more preferable to the new systems, it works perfectly in Panzer Dragoon Orta. Since the Dragoon was never obscenely powerful in earlier games, fans of the series aren't going to be missing the ''spread shot'', among other things. Great levels and fantastic bosses round out the deep gameplay system. In addition, it's got great replay. There are several difficulty levels, and this is a game that begs to be played more than once. There are also a slew of unlockables, including THE ENTIRE FIRST PANZER DRAGOON, and a nifty little side quest. Most of the levels also have two or more completely different branching paths to check out. Two plus hours for a straight playthrough is about as long as shooters get anyways. Although you'll probably be so sucked in that you see the credits the first night you play, there is plenty more to do and you'll come back for the ride for years to come. Gameplay: 10/10

There isn't much more to say here. Smilebit has created a magnificent experience that transcends the normal boundaries of a ''game'' and becomes art. Indeed, half the fun is simply taking in the glorious scenery. In a day and age where 50 hour games might throw out something interesting once every hour or two, it's refreshing to play a game where the programmers have focused on making every second count. It was a very ballsy move of Sega to make this game in today's finicky market. It was an even ballsyier move to sacrifice an incredible amount of profit to put the game on the Xbox instead of the PS2. This game would not have been the same with lesser hardware, and Sega has my respect for giving up profits to uphold the legacy of the series.

The final score, as if you even needed to ask, is a perfect 10/10.

ohhhhh ahhhh *goes out and buys it* I think I can avoid eating out for a couple of weeks :D *Also does anyone know how much XboX live is gonna cost after the first year? 50 a year???
 

kami

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*Also does anyone know how much XboX live is gonna cost after the first year? 50 a year???
no clue. $5-$10/month maybe? or maybe they'll be nice and charge $50 a year again
 

Smolek

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I'm gonna give the PDO demo another runthrough tonight.

Some people have said that it doesnt do justice to the actual game and the demo does more bad then good.
 

Jmman

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I just got it today at Compusa for $39.99. I will "review" it later tonight!!
 

slag

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found it last nite on the web.. Played the heck out of it also..

Gonna go buy it tonight after work..

Yes, it IS that good.