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Panoz Esperante

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Nebor

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When I went to look up Renault just now, I saw the Panoz on yahoo! cars. I looked up a little more
Motor Trend REview

What a gorgeous car, with plenty of power to spare... Seriously though... it's beautiful.

I did a search, no mention of the word Panoz on the OT. It's only been around since 2001, so maybe you guys just haven't heard of it?
 
Everybody has heard of it (at least I have). In terms of other cars in the price range there are better choices. BTW, the 4.6 from the Cobra doesn't have plenty of power to spare compared to other cars like it.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Everybody has heard of it (at least I have). In terms of other cars in the price range there are better choices. BTW, the 4.6 from the Cobra doesn't have plenty of power to spare compared to other cars like it.
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Watch the '03 Cobra walk over a Corvette z06 and say that again.... EDIT: And I'm sure the supercharger for the 03 has NOTHING to do with it.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Everybody has heard of it (at least I have). In terms of other cars in the price range there are better choices. BTW, the 4.6 from the Cobra doesn't have plenty of power to spare compared to other cars like it.
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Watch the '03 Cobra walk over a Corvette z06 and say that again.... EDIT: And I'm sure the supercharger for the 03 has NOTHING to do with it.
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A bone stock 03 Cobra vs a Z06 will lose with both competent drivers. The Z06 is still faster simply put. Go to any Z06 forum or Mustang forum (I visit 3 different ones daily)

And do you even know what engine is in that Esperante?
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Everybody has heard of it (at least I have). In terms of other cars in the price range there are better choices. BTW, the 4.6 from the Cobra doesn't have plenty of power to spare compared to other cars like it.
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Watch the '03 Cobra walk over a Corvette z06 and say that again.... EDIT: And I'm sure the supercharger for the 03 has NOTHING to do with it.
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There is no way in hell an '03 Cobra will walk a Z06.

As for the Panoz, I think it's a cool little car. I've only seen one in person but it looked great... very distinctive. There are better choices performance-wise for the money, but if you are rich as hell and want something unique it would be as good a choice as any.
 
Originally posted by: BigSmooth
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Everybody has heard of it (at least I have). In terms of other cars in the price range there are better choices. BTW, the 4.6 from the Cobra doesn't have plenty of power to spare compared to other cars like it.
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Watch the '03 Cobra walk over a Corvette z06 and say that again.... EDIT: And I'm sure the supercharger for the 03 has NOTHING to do with it.
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There is no way in hell an '03 Cobra will walk a Z06.

As for the Panoz, I think it's a cool little car. I've only seen one in person but it looked great... very distinctive. There are better choices performance-wise for the money, but if you are rich as hell and want something unique it would be as good a choice as any.
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You summed it up quite nicely. There's an exotic sports car dealership about 5 minutes from my house - I saw plenty of Esperantes there. Indeed they are nice looking, but when sitting next to the other bad boys in the lot, it pales in comparison.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Everybody has heard of it (at least I have). In terms of other cars in the price range there are better choices. BTW, the 4.6 from the Cobra doesn't have plenty of power to spare compared to other cars like it.
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Watch the '03 Cobra walk over a Corvette z06 and say that again.... EDIT: And I'm sure the supercharger for the 03 has NOTHING to do with it.
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how the hell do you figure a Cobra will walk all over a Z06?
video or ban.
 
You still didn't answer my point. The Esperante doesn't have the 03 Cobra engine in it. A bone stock 03 Cobra will get beat by a bone stock Z06 with both competent drivers.

That video is a 2000 Cobra R
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Vid One
Motor Trend
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That MT link you posted:

On paper, the Cobra's supercharged 4.6-liter/390-horsepower/390-lb-ft DOHC V-8 looks to defeat the Vette's normally aspirated 5.7-liter/350-horse/375-lb-ft OHV V-8. But, given the Fords' 532-pound weight disadvantage and rear-wheel hop, the Corvette proves slightly quicker off the line. The Cobra lagged just 0.14 second to 60 mph and 0.10 second and 0.01 mph covering the quarter mile.
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The Cobra LOST. AND IF YOU WOULD READ THE FVCKING ARTICLE YOU POSTED YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT'S A NON-Z06 VETTE. HOW THE HELL IS IT GOING TO BEAT A Z06 IF IT CAN'T BEAT A NORMAL CORVETTE?!?!

And that video shows the Cobra driver barely passing him at the last second. Yea, that's owning a Z06.

2003 Chevrolet Corvette vs. 2003 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra
2003 Chevrolet Corvette Not a Z06
Specifications
Base price $50,395
Price as tested $56,265
Vehicle layout Front engine, rwd, 2-door, 2-pass
Engine 90° V-8, OHV, 2 valves/cyl
Displacement, ci/cc 345.7 / 5665
Max horsepower @ rpm 350 @ 5600
Max torque @ rpm 375 @ 4400
Transmission 6-speed manual
Curb weight, lb 3248
0-60 mph, sec 4.72
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 13.02 @ 109.59
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 115
200-ft skidpad, lateral g 0.88
600-ft slalom, mph 66.4
EPA mpg, city/hwy 19/28
On sale in U.S. Currently
Convertible Top
Convertible top material Cloth
Top operation Manual
Time to raise/lower, in sec 9.8/10.0
Head liner Yes
Rear-window material Glass
Heated rear window Yes
Boot material Fiberglass, 1 piece
Hard top available No
Wind diffuser of some sort No
dB @ 60 mph, top and windows up 73
dB @ 60 mph, top and windows down 88
Ease of top operation 5
Rear visibility with top up 5
Buffeting at 60 mph, top and windows down 6
HVAC effectiveness at 60 mph, top down 6
Radio effectiveness at 60, top down 8
Tonneau--design, materials, installation 8
Weather sealing in car wash/leaks 7
Structural integrity 6
scale of 1-10, 10 being best
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Originally posted by: Nebor
2003 Mustang Cobra Beats Z06
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Yeah... a street racing video? That proves nothing. We don't know if the drivers had the same skill or if they conducted the test objectively. We don't even know if the Mustang was actually modified.

With a good driver, the Z06 generally runs low 12s in the quarter and the Cobra runs high 12s. Even people on Mustang forums (most of them, anyway) admit that the Cobra is slower than the Z06 if driver skill is equal.
Here's a short article with dyno figures. The Mustang actually puts out more HP at the crank - but the author concludes that it's just too heavy to hang with the faster 'Vette.

In any case, the Cobra will not "walk over" a Z06 like you originally claimed. That's just blatantly wrong.
 
First off, that Mustang is not stock. That video has been on (I believe) SVTperformance or some other board for a while now. Stop trying to post random links of a car which you know jack sh!t about.

Second, before the camera operator zoomed in on the dashboard it was obvious the Z06 was reeling in. After he unzoomed the Mustang wasn't in the lead (too hard to tell if the Z06 was winning or tied)
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Everybody has heard of it (at least I have). In terms of other cars in the price range there are better choices. BTW, the 4.6 from the Cobra doesn't have plenty of power to spare compared to other cars like it.
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Watch the '03 Cobra walk over a Corvette z06 and say that again.... EDIT: And I'm sure the supercharger for the 03 has NOTHING to do with it.
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It won't walk all over it, try again
 
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Everybody has heard of it (at least I have). In terms of other cars in the price range there are better choices. BTW, the 4.6 from the Cobra doesn't have plenty of power to spare compared to other cars like it.
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Watch the '03 Cobra walk over a Corvette z06 and say that again.... EDIT: And I'm sure the supercharger for the 03 has NOTHING to do with it.
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It won't walk all over it, try again
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He's been trying. He keeps getting owned. And yea I pointed out already the Vette in the article was a normal Vette. The Cobra lost to the normal non-Z06 Vette of all things. This genius can't figure that out though
 
Originally posted by: geno
still no answer, maybe he's learned his lesson and is reading up as we read this? 🙂
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Maybe he's drawing an animated GIF in paint showing the "Mustang Cobra" beating a "Corvette Z06" 😉

BTW, how's that wall of cars coming?
 
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