Palit 6800GS 512MB?

[XxCronoxX]

I've been looking for a good AGP card thats not too expensive and ran into this. I've read good reviews about the 6800GS 256MB but have never found anything regarding the 512MB version apart from some German site that didn't help much.

Is it a good card? I do know that 6800GS's can have their extra 4 pipes unlocked but how does the x800GTO compare?

I, personally, am leaning towards the 6800GS but don't know if the 512MB is actually better than the 256MB or not.

 

[Gautama2]

Well of course having more memory would be better.
Not much of an improvement tho, Id say 10-15 percent tops

 

[XxCronoxX]

Well I do currently have a Radeon 7500LE...

Apparently the 6800GS 512MB is clocked at 425MHZ.

 

[Ichigo]

Not even 10%. More like none.

What's your budget?

 

[XxCronoxX]

Well, here in Sweden everythings expensive due to tax but in my currency around 2200.

Why wouldn't the 512MB help out? :'[

 

[CKXP]

Originally posted by: XxCronoxX
Well, here in Sweden everythings expensive due to tax but in my currency around 2200.

Why wouldn't the 512MB help out? :'[

http://www.pureoverclock.com/article33.html

256mb vs. 512mb

 

[XxCronoxX]

Ok well I'll most likely be running my games at 1280 x 1024 so I guess the 512MB is useless.

But 256 or 512, is the the 6800GS a good choice for it's price range? I'm hopping the pipes will successfuly unlock on mine. Anyone else mind telling me how it went?

And god I feel stupid, I didn't even mention my specs.

AMD Athlon 3200+
2 x 512 Corsair Value
Q-tec PSU (350watt) <-- will upgrade this when I buy the gfx card

:]

 

[unfalliblekrutch]

the 6800gs isn't bad, although it wouldn't hurt to upgrade to PCIe now. Theres some nice deals to be had on the low-ish end of PCIe that would be tempting. I think I saw a x800 for ~$70 from Dell. combine that with a PCIe mobo and you're looking at ~$150, which isn't a bad price of entry. Or if you want to go higher, theres some x1800xts on newegg for around ~$230, which imho is a steal.

 

[akshayt]

!) You should go pci e.
2) A 6800GS is a mainstream card and can't make much use of 512mb, a higher card like 7800GTX can.
3)You won't be able to play games at 12X10 with this. Even for 1024*768 or maybe 800*600 you need a 512mb card for games like GRAW for high settings, Quake 4 too may benefit if you have 512mb for ultra settings.

This card will be able to play now days games at 1024*768 MAX, maybe some AF or full AF but mostly no AA, and very power fuly games or very crappy running games maybe at most 1024*768 MED.
MY ESTIMATE
FEAR: 1024*768 MAX soft shadows off
MW: 1024*768 MAX AF, no AA , this is the max if at all,
Quake 4: 1024*768 High
I am not talking with respect to the rest of your system.

tell me other games and I will classify them for you.

 

[XxCronoxX]

Er, upgrading to PCI-E is out of the question.

akshayt as much as I appreciate your comments...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/314/9/

 

[Tyrant222]

the 6800gs and the x800gto are pretty damn close in performance. so id get whatevers cheaper.

 

[akshayt]

at stock a 6800GS should be significantly better t most times. + It supports SM 3 and HDR.

At xbitlabs it shows a 6600GT can get 90+fps at 10X7, all xbit settings are at max in game, I am talking without aa and af I think.
With that respect mine should be fine.

But a friend of mine who has a 7600GT with amd 3200 venice and 2gb ram plays Quake 4 at 10X7 High, not ultra,
Mine was like 10X7 High at max, in fact you might want 10X7 med,
though they probably had 2 gb and I with 1gb.

Believe me, you will be able to play Quake 4 at 10X7 High with your card, you might be able to play higher, but don't be so sure
A 7600GT is equivalent if not better to a 6800GS, your 512mb may help you a bit, but only limited with that card.

 

[XxCronoxX]

Limited or not, do you think it's worth it? 512 isn't so much more expensive anyway.

 

[996GT2]

To the OP, a 6800GS won't be much different in 512 and 256mb versions, and unless you play at very high resolutions (16 by 10+) the extra video RAM will do almost NOTHING. a 6800GS will perform similarly to a 6800GT, although the AGP version will take a bit of a hit due to slower clock speeds. The X800GTO is also a very good card, but I do not think the AGP version can unlock to become an X800XT.

In my opinion the 512mb is not worth it; also make sure the video RAM is GDDR3; if you are getting a card with slower GDDR2 or GDDR, then performance will suffer a bit.

also akshayt is a forum troll and moron, just ignore what he says, he doesnt know wtf hes talking about, and you definitely do not want any advice from him...just ask anyone in the video forums...and search for the thread "x1900xtx is crap" in this forum and you'll see 18 pages of him pretending to us that he has a X1900XTX...yeah his reputation here is probably ruined forever

 

[XxCronoxX]

Ah thanks for the tips.

The palit 6800GS 256MB is using GDDR3. I think I'm going for this card 99.9%.

 

[Nextman916]

OMG Crono, i seriously, seriously, seriously advise you to not waste the money on a 512mb version of the card, the GDDR3 nor the extra vram is going to do jack sheet. If you have that much cash then go for a 7800gs which will smoke the 6800gs in every instance, and muder the crap out of the 6800gs 512mb. Either that or go pci-e, everyone here is telling you the card youve chosen is a bad choice, please listen, these are knowledge filled members with intelligent insight. Everyone knows its marketing at best, equiping low end cards with 512mb of memory, just search the forums there have been numerous topics on such examples. Google some reviews if you still dont believe me, but its your money in the end so the decision is still yours, me(and many others) are just advising you what the smarter choice would be.

 

[XxCronoxX]

Originally posted by: Nextman916
OMG Crono, i seriously, seriously, seriously advise you to not waste the money on a 512mb version of the card, the GDDR3 nor the extra vram is going to do jack sheet. If you have that much cash then go for a 7800gs which will smoke the 6800gs in every instance, and muder the crap out of the 6800gs 512mb. Either that or go pci-e, everyone here is telling you the card youve chosen is a bad choice, please listen, these are knowledge filled members with intelligent insight. Everyone knows its marketing at best, equiping low end cards with 512mb of memory, just search the forums there have been numerous topics on such examples. Google some reviews if you still dont believe me, but its your money in the end so the decision is still yours, me(and many others) are just advising you what the smarter choice would be.

PCI-E is not an option for me. I do know that you people are knowledge filled, that's why I came here.Tyrant told me the 6800GS is ok and I've been told to ignore that akshayt guy.

The 7800GS does sound interesting, but remember I live in Sweden. Things are overpriced due to tax here. I'll look into the 7800GS more and see what I can do there.

Edit- After searching around a bit more on some Swedish websites, I found an X850XT (non-PE :[) for the same price as the 6800GS. Which one is the better card? Does the lack of SM3 really make a difference?

 

[Nextman916]

Not very much, the X850xt is a much faster card, the 6800gs you will only be able to power this generations games with sm 3.0 features anyways. Unless you plan on using HDR excessively in oblivion or something, its of no use to you. I would definitely go for the x850xt. A 7800gs is usually head to head with the x850xt in benchmarks, but if OC'ed the 7800gs gains respectively. So according to the price get whichever seems like the best deal.

 

[XxCronoxX]

How's your 7800gs treating you?

 

[akshayt]

6800GS has sm3 and HDR which will help gget better eyecandy in several games, atleast some games like AOE3, HL2:Loast Coast.

If there is not much diff in price between 512mb and 256mb, then go with 512mb if you can afford it, else go with 256mb.

 

[mancunian]

Originally posted by: XxCronoxX
I've been told to ignore that akshayt guy.

Do it in this instance as well, he's talking the usual ******.

Go with what Nextman is telling you, he is right in this instance.

 

[Nextman916]

Originally posted by: XxCronoxX
How's your 7800gs treating you?

Very well at 1280x1024 in every game to date. Sure i turn down some details in Oblivion and F.E.A.R, ghost recon too, but there isnt a very big difference between medium and high usually in games anyways. Plus with mods in oblivion it still looks INCREDIBLE. But a x850xt could do the same thing, however it lakcs sm3.0 which was important to me, and has a very noisy cooler, and i prefer pure video enhancements over Avivo. In the US the x850xt is much more expensive than the 7800gs, there used to be deals around for $250 but now theyre around a steady $350+. I payed $260 shipped for my 7800gs co with a free copy of AOE:3 and OC'ed it kicks the 850's butt anyday. However im not sure what prices are in sweden, therefore if the x850xt is just as cheap as a 6800gs likely its cheaper than a 7800gs as well. I would have gone with the x850xt if it was cheaper than the 7800gs, however its not.

 

[XxCronoxX]

Awesome suggestions.

http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=59881

That's the x850XT that I saw. That's the same price as the 6800GS 512MB. X850XT's in Sweden usually cost around 3500 of our currency. So this is a good deal, it's much heaper than the 7800GS too. Then again the 7800GS has SM3, but is SM3 a big deal ;o? Right now I may go for the 7800GS since it's a little bit more future proof, but I'll just have to see what my wallet says.

Here's the 7800GS I'm looking at.

http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=55054

Which GFX card to get is a really big deal for me, specially since it's so pricey.

 

[Mavrick007]

Since the x850XT is a third of the cost less than the 7800GS, I'd go for that card. There's no way that the 7800GS is 33% faster than the x850XT so the price is good for the performance.

It will last you for a long while, and after that, you probably will never get another AGP card again.

 

[Rebel50]

Hi Crono - not sure if you made your video card purchase yet, if you have an AGP system, then I think the 6800GS is a good upgrade.

I have just puchased an Xpertvision 6800GS 256 GDR3 - AGP, the card is the 6800GS PCie version - (NV41) instead of the native AGP (NV40).

This means that it has the bridge chip for PCie/AGP. The upside though is that it is factory clocked at 450 core 1200 mem, not the normal 350/1000 that I was expecting. Also note that my card had no ability to unlock the extra vertex/pixel shaders. I understand that Palit and Xpertvision are made at the same plant.

I have an A64 3200+ on an Abit AV8 with 1 gig ram - the only bench I have tried so far is 3DMark03 - which returned a score of 12500 and over 15000 with the card overclocked to 495/1310. At these speeds I think that it would give a stock 7800GS a run for its money.

I am very happy with my purchase (upgrade from 9600pro) and I hope this can help with your decision.