Palin tax returns for 2006 and 2007 released

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ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) ? Sarah Palin is the breadwinner and husband Todd is, well ? he takes a lot of deductions for his fishing and snowmachine racing careers, according to 2007 and 2006 federal tax returns released Friday.

Sarah Palin makes $125,000 a year as Alaska governor. Plus, since she took the job in December 2006, she hasn't paid taxes on the more than $17,000 she received in controversial per diem payments for working out of the family's lakeside home in Wasilla ? some 575 miles from the capital of Juneau.

For the 2007 tax year, Todd Palin's self-employment brought him $66,893 in gross receipts ? $49,893 from fishing and $17,000 from snowmachine racing. But, the returns show, he claimed so many deductions that he reported only $15,513 net profit from the fishing operation and claimed a $9,639 loss from his racing, leaving him with an overall net income of only $5,874. In addition, Todd earned $43,519 last year working part-time on the North Slope for BP Exploration.

The self-employment deductions left the Palins, who have four dependent children, with a 15 percent tax rate for 2007 and a rate of less than 10 percent for 2006. Todd Palin also deducted for the business use of their home in Wasilla. A fifth child was born to the couple this year.

An Associated Press analysis of the returns released by the McCain campaign also reveals that the Palins underpaid their estimated taxes with an April extension and likely owe interest.

Todd Palin offset his $17,000 gross receipts for snowmachine racing by claiming $10,858 in depreciation, $2,425 for car and truck expenses and $1,559 for supplies. An additional $11,405 was claimed for "other," which included fuel, entry fees, equipment parts, repairs and maintenance, cell phone, memberships, "sponsorship apprec" and "gear."

The governor's husband claimed $34,380 in deductions for his fishing business ? more than two-thirds of the gross receipts. He claimed $12,245 in crew share payments, another $2,953 for car and truck expenses, $5,866 for depreciation, $4,181 for supplies.

When he was on snowmachine duty, he claimed $192 for travel and no deductions for meals and entertainment. While fishing, he claimed $2,194 for travel and another $680 for meals and entertainment, which is deductible at 50 percent of cost.

On the 2006 return, Todd Palin had total receipts from the fishing and snowmachine racing of $48,082, but after deductions his net income was $10,164.

Sarah Palin was only governor for one month in 2006, and Todd Palin earned $102,716 working for BP Exploration, a post he says he's temporarily left.

"This is a lady who screams about everyone in federal government taking advantage, and she's taking every advantage she can," said Sheldon Cohen, IRS commissioner in the Johnson administration. "They are milking every possible deduction. They have a right to, if it's legitimate. The question is, is he in the racing business or is it a hobby?"

Robert Cross, first vice president of the National Society of Accountants, said the Palin business deductions were "typical middle America, John and Jane Plain," but he felt they would definitely owe interest and "possibly a small penalty, depending on all the circumstances."

An underpayment noticed by the AP could lead to interest charges against the Palins but probably not penalties.

On an undated extension form filed with a $2,000 check dated April 11, the Palins claimed an estimated tax liability of $22,721 and total withholding payments of $20,721. The attached check meant the couple believed they had paid all of their taxes for 2007, as required. However, when they filed their taxes last month, dated Sept. 3, their tax liability turned out to be $24,738 ? meaning they owed an additional $2,017.

IRS rules require that when a taxpayer files for an extension in April, all outstanding taxes must be paid at that time.

When asked if the Palins had paid any interest or penalties, and if so, how much, Maria Comella, a McCain-Palin spokeswoman, said the couple had paid "at least $2,017," and that the campaign was researching if an additional payment had been made.

"In April, they made a reasonable estimate of what they would owe, and they underpaid," she acknowledged.

"They're going to be billed the interest," said Cohen, who has contributed to the Obama-Biden campaign. He said the Palins would likely avoid penalties because their tax payments as of April for last year were higher than all payments made the prior year.

Overall, the 2007 return shows that last year the couple had an adjusted gross income of $166,080 and paid $24,738 in taxes ? about a 15 percent rate after deductions. In 2006, the records show, the Palins earned $127,869 as adjusted gross income, with taxes paid listed at $11,944 ? less than a 10 percent rate.

On federal financial disclosure forms, also released Friday, Palin and her husband listed assets worth from $960,000 to $2.3 million. Because the values of assets are reported in broad ranges, it's not possible to calculate an exact value for their holdings.

Like many Americans, their most valuable asset is their home. Theirs, in Wasilla, is valued at $500,000 to $1 million. According to the Matanuska-Susitna Borough, the land and structure are appraised at $552,100.

Their next most valuable asset is a fishing leasehold, worth $100,000 to $250,000. Todd Palin's fishing business was valued at $50,000 to $100,000, and his snowmobile racing enterprise was put at $15,000 to $50,000.

Todd Palin also has a retirement account worth $50,000 to $100,000, and he owns a variety of mutual funds in a 401(k) retirement plan through his employer, the oil company BP. Sara Palin also has retirement accounts from the state of Alaska and the city of Wasilla, where she was once mayor, valued at $115,000 to $250,000.

The Palins also own shares of two land parcels worth a combined $51,000 to $115,000.

On their tax returns, the Palins said they donated $8,105 to charity over the two years. The bulk of the donations came in "gifts by cash or check" ? $4,250 in 2006 and $2,500 last year. Comella said the Palins gave the money to local churches, but she would not elaborate.

The Palins made noncash charitable contributions, claiming "thrift store value" of $825 for a Dec. 31, 2007, donation to the Salvation Army of Wasilla.

The column used to describe the donated items states only "Wasilla Alaska." When asked to explain, Comella said, "I believe this is actual things that were part of their property ? furniture, clothing and so forth. That was generally what they donated."

For the 2006 tax year, the couple listed two noncash donations of "crib," household goods and clothing to the Salvation Army of Wasilla, with a fair market value of $1,000, and more goods and clothing, with a fair market value of $230. While the value of the two donations total $1,230, the tax return only claims $630.

Asked to explain the missing $600 on the actual return, Comella said that figures in two columns had been reversed ? that the $1,000 was actually the donor's cost and the $400 listed under that category was actually the fair market value. That would make the total donation the same $630 listed elsewhere on the Palin return.

"It was a typographical error that didn't change any of the main numbers," said Comella.

More recently, the IRS has tightened documentation rules for all charitable contributions.

Regarding the per diem dispute, Comella said Juneau is the governor's home base and therefore whenever she works elsewhere, she is entitled to charge the state. Comella contended the per diem payments are not taxable.

Cohen said it was fine for the state of Alaska to determine it was OK to reimburse Palin to work out of her home, but the state's decision didn't mean those benefits were not taxable by the federal government. "One has nothing to do with the other," said Cohen.

She talks of having reduced taxes in Alaska. I wonder if she was talking about their own or everybody's. Snow mobile racing where her husband Todd won $17,000 but has an overall $9,639 loss sounds rather overboard to me. Plus, Sarah Palin still hasn't paid taxes on the more than $17,000 she received for working out of her home.

Is this the same person who says she is going to fight greed and corruption in Washington? Maybe it's true. She just left out Alaska.

Todd's part-time work on the North Slope for BP Exploration sounds pretty fishy too. In Alaska, Todd Palin is called "the shadow governor" because he attends office meetings and legislative sessions. He has much influence over his wife's decisions.
 

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You mean she didn't pay any more any taxes than she needed to?!? This woman needs to be locked away!
 

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Can anyone clarify if per diem is taxable income??

Ok... looking into this slightly it seems that per diem is not always taxable.

Just depends on how it is paid and accounting methods used etc.
Seems to be very complicated.
 

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can anyone clarify if per diem is taxable income??

Believe it or not, the NY Times covered this exact question with regards to Sarah Palin more than two weeks ago:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...diem-payments-taxable/

Go figure... they have their fingers so far up her ass probing for stuff it's a wonder they don't have writen an article about what brand of sanitary napkin she uses...
 

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Originally posted by: GooeyGUI

Todd's part-time work on the North Slope for BP Exploration sounds pretty fishy too. In Alaska, Todd Palin is called "the shadow governor" because he attends office meetings and legislative sessions. He has much influence over his wife's decisions.
Does he also get paid by the State of Alaska for sneaking around taking pictures of his ex BIL in order to deny him Workers Compensation for his injured back?
 

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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can anyone clarify if per diem is taxable income??

Believe it or not, the NY Times covered this exact question with regards to Sarah Palin more than two weeks ago:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...diem-payments-taxable/

Go figure... they have their fingers so far up her ass probing for stuff it's a wonder they don't have writen an article about what brand of sanitary napkin she uses...

She is the last executive contender to make tax returns available, and she does it out of the news cycle on Friday night. Their campaign must not have wanted this information to be seen by very many people if they could help it.

Submitting tax returns and examining them isn't probing up anyone's anatomy. It's part of running for public office. Or, do you need to attack that fact to protect poor Sarah from all the mean people who are just out to get her on a gotcha? <wink>

 

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If I am reading this right, the Palins had an effective income, after deductions, of less than a McDonalds fry cook?
 

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Originally posted by: techs
If I am reading this right, the Palins had an effective income, after deductions, of less than a McDonalds fry cook?

You are not reading it right. They are upper middle class.
 

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Originally posted by: QED
Go figure... they have their fingers so far up her ass probing for stuff

Is it wrong that I'm slightly aroused by this statement? :eek:
 

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Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can anyone clarify if per diem is taxable income??

Believe it or not, the NY Times covered this exact question with regards to Sarah Palin more than two weeks ago:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...diem-payments-taxable/

Go figure... they have their fingers so far up her ass probing for stuff it's a wonder they don't have writen an article about what brand of sanitary napkin she uses...

She is the last executive contender to make tax returns available, and she does it out of the news cycle on Friday night. Their campaign must not have wanted this information to be seen by very many people if they could help it.

Submitting tax returns and examining them isn't probing up anyone's anatomy. It's part of running for public office. Or, do you need to attack that fact to protect poor Sarah from all the mean people who are just out to get her on a gotcha? <wink>

No, no... I'm not talking about examing her tax returns now-- that is to be expected.

But for the NYT to already have pre-emptiveley contacted tax scholars and have written a whole article dedicated to the taxability of Palin's per diem two weeks ago shows how anxious they are to jump on absolutely anything that moves with regards to Palin. Maybe the NYT had a similiar article where they analized Obama's tax returns, or where they explore Michelle Obama getting a nice promotion after her husband went into the Senate and managed to steer federal money to her employer).

 

mizzou

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Is anyone else more scared of Sarah Palins husband then Sarah Palin or even Dick Cheney?
 

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so uhhhh...she makes 125,000 and has a good accountant that can find her deductions that are available to any American citizen paying taxes?....Oh my!....what an outrage.

I guess all you people that bitch whine and complain must simply fill out a 1040EZ every year and call it a day....if I was that lazy and screwed myself every year I suppose would be pissed to.

There is software put out by H&R block every year at tax time that will help you do that sort of thing.....it's not rocket science and it's not illegal.
 

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
so uhhhh...she makes 125,000 and has a good accountant that can find her deductions that are available to any American citizen paying taxes?....Oh my!....what an outrage.

I guess all you people that bitch whine and complain must simply fill out a 1040EZ every year and call it a day....if I was that lazy and screwed myself every year I suppose would be pissed to.

There is software put out by H&R block every year at tax time that will help you do that sort of thing.....it's not rocket science and it's not illegal.

I have good friends who were audited and lost w/ less vague deductions.

I find their deductions hard to believe....

Salvation Army deductions, I'm pretty sure you need a receipt for each donation, and a picture of each donation to win an audit. I can't confirm that though.
 

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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can anyone clarify if per diem is taxable income??

Believe it or not, the NY Times covered this exact question with regards to Sarah Palin more than two weeks ago:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...diem-payments-taxable/

Go figure... they have their fingers so far up her ass probing for stuff it's a wonder they don't have writen an article about what brand of sanitary napkin she uses...

i'd like to put my finger up her ass
 

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I wonder where the cash came from to buy that house. If they are both making under 200k a year combined then being able to afford a 500k+ home with several children seems rather unlikely to me.
 

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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can anyone clarify if per diem is taxable income??

Believe it or not, the NY Times covered this exact question with regards to Sarah Palin more than two weeks ago:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...diem-payments-taxable/

Go figure... they have their fingers so far up her ass probing for stuff it's a wonder they don't have writen an article about what brand of sanitary napkin she uses...

Actually they did! Except it was pulled off before press time because they realized they took the daughter's brand instead!
 

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Was there anything in there that was illegal? Didn't look like it to me. Why would this be an issue?
 

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Was there anything in there that was illegal? Didn't look like it to me. Why would this be an issue?

True, her ignorance, lack of intellectual curiosity and tendency to abuse her position of power is more of an issue than her tax returns.
 

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looks like she took advantage of tax deductions. whats so bad about this? if i was running for public office would you call me out because i deducted my tuition cost or my business travel expenses?
 

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Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
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She talks of having reduced taxes in Alaska. I wonder if she was talking about their own or everybody's. Snow mobile racing where her husband Todd won $17,000 but has an overall $9,639 loss sounds rather overboard to me. Plus, Sarah Palin still hasn't paid taxes on the more than $17,000 she received for working out of her home.

Is this the same person who says she is going to fight greed and corruption in Washington? Maybe it's true. She just left out Alaska.

Todd's part-time work on the North Slope for BP Exploration sounds pretty fishy too. In Alaska, Todd Palin is called "the shadow governor" because he attends office meetings and legislative sessions. He has much influence over his wife's decisions.

The snow "machine" racing business is questionable. For any racing business the test is taxable profits in two (2) tax years of seven (7) consecutive tax years; if he fails that test the IRS can disallow the deduction. It's hard to make a profit in racing, my brother is on an NHRA drag racing team. When I go watch I usually meet the owner(s), some super rich person. I've noticed that teams change hands every few years, I presume this is because they don't make a profit and the person needs to sell because of the 2 out of 7 years rule.

I'd guess that Todd has a reasonable case, given their (he & wife's) national exposure (and his success in racing) he stands a good chance of picking up a decent sponsor; which is what it takes to make a profit. The above test is only a presumption, I'd feel confident in arguing their case - I'm pretty sure I could win.

The per diem is non-taxable, or else the Alaska state government has some very unusual and odd rules. Most per diem plans are the standard IRS plan and thus non-taxable.

Otherwise, I see nothing odd in their tax situation (I'm a tax CPA)

Fern