Palin pre-announces for 2012 if they lose

[nageov3t]

/facepalm

you're doin' a heckuva job, Sarah.

 

[mugs]

If Obama has a successful first four years, the republicans are going to need someone expendable to lose in 2012.

 

[Hugh H]

Originally posted by: mugs
If Obama has a successful first four years, the republicans are going to need someone expendable to lose in 2012.

Sounds like Bob Dole during 1996.

 

[brencat]

Originally posted by: Robor
If McCain loses will it be because he's not evangelical enough? I think the GOP needs to break free from the far right social conservatives and leave people alone.

+1

Focus on economics, shrinking govt, and cutting/freezing spending. Get back to real conservative principles.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

She has always back stabbed political allies, this is par-for-the-course. Use them, then lose them. Mac is just another "John" to her.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: bearxor
I'd consider myself a moderate republican who floats somewhere between a fiscal conservative and social liberal and she would have my vote in 2012.

Because she's demonstrated the intellectual capacity to run a country?

Hey, Bush got elected. The bar can't be very high.

That said, while Palin's personal views on things like evolution are ridiculous, there is no strong evidence to show that she has tried to legislate based on those views in Alaska. On the other hand, she's an absolute gaffe machine and does not come off strongly at all in debates, which is not a good thing.

Overall, whether it's an adopted persona or a genuine one, the image Palin projects only reinforces the anti-intellectual bent of the current Republican party and there is no good that can come of that.

ZV

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
She has always back stabbed political allies, this is par-for-the-course. Use them, then lose them. Mac is just another "John" to her.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: techs
Remember everyone counted out a second rate actor named Reagan.
Palin does have a chance in 2012, at least for the nomination.
What has to happen:
1) The Alaska scandals must go away, and no more surface.
2) She must enhance her IQ > than a blind raccoon afflicted with rabies.

Fixed.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: bearxor

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
I'm sure she's popular with the base, but I'd think she would turn off more moderate Republicans.

This is actually quite wrong. I'd consider myself a moderate republican who floats somewhere between a fiscal conservative and social liberal and she would have my vote in 2012.

Well then there is something seriously wrong with your judgment.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: techs
Remember everyone counted out a second rate actor named Reagan.
Palin does have a chance in 2012, at least for the nomination.
What has to happen:
1) The Alaska scandals must go away, and no more surface.
2) She must enhance her foreign policy credentials.

I think you're being generous to her.

She's never demonstrated any electoral support outside of Alaska; McCain appointed her, we don't really what Repub support she has.

Reagan, OTOH, had California backing him, that's a huge advantage.

Reagan had run for President before (in the primary); she's just glommed on to McCain for a couple of months.

She hasn't had to develop any policy about any matter (domestic or foreign); she must just repeat McCain's.

I think about all one can realistically say at this time is that's she picked up some campaign experience down here in the lower 48 and got some name recognition.

Whether she can later turn that into a primary victory remains to be seen. If she is to have any chance, she'll need to use this opportunity to build up a network for some major fundraising in the next election cycle.

Fern

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: eplebnista
I think this is the transcript being referenced

PALIN: No. Asking the question, what do his comments, from back there in 2001, candid comments that are caught on tape, what do they suggest in, in terms of his idea for future Supreme Court justices, and perhaps for ... he being able to reach some of the goals that it seems that he has, in terms of redistributing other people's wealth, hard-earned money, according to his priorities. But, no, not ... not an explicit allegation like that. No.

PALIN: Well, I think that people can ... can read the comments and hear the comments that he made, because again, the, the refreshing thing about that tape being revealed ... from 2001... it's candidness there. It's not ... it didn't seem to be his typical scripted, kinda ... rhetorical message read off a TelePrompter. There it was, where he talked about, though, his desire, it sounded like, for redistributing wealth.

woah! Palin might just be worse at english than Bush!

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: eplebnista

ELIZABETH VARGAS: If it doesn't go your way on Tuesday ... 2012?

GOV SARAH PALIN: I'm just ... thinkin' that it's gonna go our way on Tuesday, November 4. I truly believe that the wisdom of ... of the people will be revealed on that day. As they enter that voting booth, they will understand the stark contrast between the two tickets. ...

VARGAS: But the point being that you haven't been so bruised by some of the double standard, the sexism on the campaign trail, to say, "I've had it. I'm going back to Alaska."

PALIN: Absolutely not. I think that, if I were to give up and wave a white flag of surrender against some of the political shots that we've taken, that ... that would ... bring this whole ... I'm not doin' this for naught.

I think this is the transcript being referenced

Guess waggy was right about spin -- her comment seems pretty innocent. The original video made it sound like she explicitly came out and said "if we lose, I'm running for the presidency in 2012." All she's really saying is that she has aspirations beyond the governing of Alaska, and I don't think she said it in a way that would hurt the McCain campaign.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

Sure. Let's take the person that dragged down the ticket and make her the front-runner. Please, lets hope the Republican Party, doesnt keep pushing this albatross as if she were a good thing for you.

If the Republican party were to fracture into a classically conservative party and perhaps a "new" right-wing theocratic party, she would be a logical leader of that new party.

Should she choose to stay in the spotlight, and should the Republican party not fracture, she could very well be the next Phyllis Schafly, representing her wing of the party. But not likely to be a viable general election candidate, even were she to run.

If the fortunes of "conservatism" in any way depend on or are enhanced by the presence of Sarah Palin, then it only confirms the emptiness of a once stable "philosophy."

She represents everything dragging the party down: fiscal inconsistency, religious extremism, abuse of power, and anti-intellectualism.

Palin will be one of two things to this party: 1) A wakeup call to the party to inform them that "Real-Americans" are getting tired of the GOP imposed "culture war" and everything that comes with it, or 2) The future of a party.

 

[robphelan]

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Sure. Let's take the person that dragged down the ticket and make her the front-runner. Please, lets hope the Republican Party, doesnt keep pushing this albatross as if she were a good thing for you.

If the Republican party were to fracture into a classically conservative party and perhaps a "new" right-wing theocratic party, she would be a logical leader of that new party.

Should she choose to stay in the spotlight, and should the Republican party not fracture, she could very well be the next Phyllis Schafly, representing her wing of the party. But not likely to be a viable general election candidate, even were she to run.

If the fortunes of "conservatism" in any way depend on or are enhanced by the presence of Sarah Palin, then it only confirms the emptiness of a once stable "philosophy."

She represents everything dragging the party down: fiscal inconsistency, religious extremism, abuse of power, and anti-intellectualism.

Palin will be one of two things to this party: 1) A wakeup call to the party to inform them that "Real-Americans" are getting tired of the GOP imposed "culture war" and everything that comes with it, or 2) The future of a party.

Dude, if she weren't all that, she'd be a Democrat

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Robor
Country first, right Sarah?

Someone from the (R) leadership needs to sit her down and tell her to STFU.

She's a pawn of the Social Conservatives. They see their grip on the GOP slipping when McCain looses this election and they desperately want to keep it so they are putting a bug in her ear. Hopefully she will be ostracized for her part in this defeat.

If McCain loses will it be because he's not evangelical enough? I think the GOP needs to break free from the far right social conservatives and leave people alone.

I hope the party fractures and the real Republicans finally get it back from the religious right idiots.

Every cloud has a silver lining.

 

[Gand1]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: eplebnista
I think this is the transcript being referenced

PALIN: No. Asking the question, what do his comments, from back there in 2001, candid comments that are caught on tape, what do they suggest in, in terms of his idea for future Supreme Court justices, and perhaps for ... he being able to reach some of the goals that it seems that he has, in terms of redistributing other people's wealth, hard-earned money, according to his priorities. But, no, not ... not an explicit allegation like that. No.

PALIN: Well, I think that people can ... can read the comments and hear the comments that he made, because again, the, the refreshing thing about that tape being revealed ... from 2001... it's candidness there. It's not ... it didn't seem to be his typical scripted, kinda ... rhetorical message read off a TelePrompter. There it was, where he talked about, though, his desire, it sounded like, for redistributing wealth.

woah! Palin might just be worse at english than Bush!

Can any of you actually read that transcript without getting a headache. I honestly can't tell what the heck she is generally talking about in most of her comments. She seems to start on a subject, reflect to something else, stick in a talking point, and hem and haw about something else. I understand the point of political speak is to circle around a subject without giving an actual answer but.... wow!

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I almost feel sorry for McCain having to deal with the 24 carat bitch but it was of his own doing.

LOL, McCain's finding out that you can take the girl out of Alaska, but you can't take the Alaska out of the girl.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: bearxor

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
I'm sure she's popular with the base, but I'd think she would turn off more moderate Republicans.

This is actually quite wrong. I'd consider myself a moderate republican who floats somewhere between a fiscal conservative and social liberal and she would have my vote in 2012.

you realize that she is a not-moderate republican who is an extreme social conservative and a fiscal twit right?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: techs
Remember everyone counted out a second rate actor named Reagan.
Palin does have a chance in 2012, at least for the nomination.
What has to happen:
1) The Alaska scandals must go away, and no more surface.
2) She must enhance her foreign policy credentials.

don't forget economic credentials.


i'd really like it if she understood what socialism was.

 

[GTKeeper]

Way to cut and run Palin, f-ing coward.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Bahahahahahahahahah

Sarah Palin is a joke, I can't believe that Republicans would actually want her for 2012. I mean I'm sure she's popular with the base, but I'd think she would turn off more moderate Republicans.

My father was on the fence until the Palin selection. He said that made the decision easy > Obama.

 

[Moonbeam]

You have to agree though, that Palin represents and is representative of a huge number of morons who make up the Republican party. She's perfect for the brain dead.