Palin is a TRUE Blockbuster!

[sammyunltd]

Google Trends is DA PR00F

She's even trumping Obama right now.

Just in terms of publicity and exposure, McCain surely made the right choice. Just look.. even overseas she's barely trailing Barack "Da Ceeleebritty" Obama.

 

[First]

Your posts are horrible.

 

[Farang]

Doesn't really mean anything.. people have had over 26 years to learn about McCain, 4 years for Obama, and so naturally people are trying to find out who she is.

 

[fskimospy]

Lets see where she is in a month. My prediction the day of her nomination was that she will be a short term plus, and a LARGE long term minus. She's off the deep end to the right and it looks like she has a whole load of skeletons in her closet.

 

[sammyunltd]

Well, McCain is unknown outside of the USA (or barely known), just like Palin. This excuse does not work overseas..

Still, you gotta be amazed at the publicity and the exposure she's getting.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I get a different Google result

 

[sammyunltd]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I get a different Google result

Hrmm...

This site is not affiliated with or sponsored by Google

I call shens.

Kidding.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: sammyunltd

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I get a different Google result

Hrmm...

This site is not affiliated with or sponsored by Google

I call shens.

Kidding.

Insomnia fosters a strange sense of humor

In all seriousness, it's not surprising because as stated the public is more or less saying "who the heck is she?" and trying to learn more about her. Although not representative of Google statistics, people around here have made her the #1 topic of discussion, although clearly that doesn't mean that most talk is favorable.

 

[dawp]

I've got a theory i want to pass by y'all.

What if McCain didn't pick Palin to win but to lose. from the rumors floating around he couldn't pick who he really wanted, Ridge or Lieberman, so he pick Palin out of right field to deliberately lose and lose in such a way as to kill the religious right wing of the party.


it is a possibility.

maybe this should have been a thread on it's own, but there are already plenty of Palin threads.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: sammyunltd

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I get a different Google result

Hrmm...

This site is not affiliated with or sponsored by Google

I call shens.

Kidding.

Insomnia fosters a strange sense of humor

In all seriousness, it's not surprising because as stated the public is more or less saying "who the heck is she?" and trying to learn more about her. Although not representative of Google statistics, people around here have made her the #1 topic of discussion, although clearly that doesn't mean that most talk is favorable.

And her 'new controversy per hour' for the first 24 hours she was introduced kep interest very high as well.

Investigation for abuse of power for terminating the state police chief for not following the family vendetta against her sister's ex-husband? Affiliated with secessionist-rights group? The book banning incident? The contradiction to McCain's 'experience' argument and the pathetic arguments that she knows foreign policy by living next to Russia? The 'executive experience' nonsense about heading a national guard she has never given an order to? Her extremist right-wing views? The media blackout ion interviews?

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: sammyunltd

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I get a different Google result

Hrmm...

This site is not affiliated with or sponsored by Google

I call shens.

Kidding.

Insomnia fosters a strange sense of humor

In all seriousness, it's not surprising because as stated the public is more or less saying "who the heck is she?" and trying to learn more about her. Although not representative of Google statistics, people around here have made her the #1 topic of discussion, although clearly that doesn't mean that most talk is favorable.

And her 'new controversy per hour' for the first 24 hours she was introduced kep interest very high as well.

Investigation for abuse of power for terminating the state police chief for not following the family vendetta against her sister's ex-husband? Affiliated with secessionist-rights group? The book banning incident? The contradiction to McCain's 'experience' argument and the pathetic arguments that she knows foreign policy by living next to Russia? The 'executive experience' nonsense about heading a national guard she has never given an order to? Her extremist right-wing views? The media blackout ion interviews?

Let's hit this one by one...

Walt Monegan was her appointee and as such served at her pleasure. She didn't need a reason to fire him. From day one he butted heads with her on budgetary issues and union relations. Not a good way to get along with your new boss...

Enter Mike Wooten, State Trooper and ex-husband to Sarah's sister...

This is a cop that tasered his step-son, shot a moose without a permit, was caught drinking in his patrol car and threatened to kill Sarah's father. Exactly the kind of person you want enforcing the laws... He was also labeled as a threat to the Governor by the governor's head of security... a person who had served at the post for the last six governors... most of whom have been Democrats just in case you're wondering.

Is it Sarah's fault that someone had her ear and mentioned a bad cop? Sure it was her sister. And sure the cop in question was her ex... But does that change the fact that this guy should be in jail... if for no other reason that shooting a moose without a permit? (FYI... Do that and get caught in Ak and you go to jail, your equipment defaults to the state and you get fined... This guy got a short vacation for it) Nevermind the other stuff. Sarah is a reformer, she's not going to abide a bad cop if she knows about it. And the guy deserves to be fired. Right now he's hiding behind the union.

So Sarah asked Monegan to let him go. If she really wanted to excercise her power should could have pressured any of Wooten's supervisors to do it. She didn't need to make Walt do it. In the end, she didn't want charges pressed against him... She just wanted him fired. Walt refused. From what I know having talked to a former Trooper friend of mine it basically boiled down to a union issue. The union refused to go along so Walt refused to go along.

Walt got fired. When he was fired he filed the ethics complaint... or rather the UNION filed the ethics complaint stating that he was fired for not firing the bad cop. Nevermind the head butting with his boss (Sarah) over the other issues.

So even though it's technically an ethics review... nothing will come of it. And I don't see the press reporting the back story at all... only that she is under investigation. Again, another press attack on Sarah with no investigation into what really happened. Screw the facts.

Next...

Sarah was never a member of the AIP. And for what it's worth, the AIP is not a radical secessionist group. They simply want a vote by the people of Alaska as to whether or not they want to be part of the union, something they feel was denied to Alaskans when Alaska became a state. Beat that horse any way you want. Anyway... just FYI. Sarah was never a member. Her husband used to be. But he's not running for office, is he?

Next...

There might be something here... She made one request that was denied. She fired a librarian. The firing was overturned. Defintely questionable... but as with the firing of Monegan I suspect there is more to this story.

Next...

She has never made a claim that her foreign policy experience had anything to do with living next to Russia. In fact, I haven't heard anyone make that claim. You made that up.

Next...

The executive experience argument is legitimate. As governor you actually have to make decisions... As a legislator you just have to propose things. Barak has failed even at that meager task. The NG thing... Yeah they are exaggerating her spot a bit but it doesn't change the responsibilities she was confronted with on a daily basis that a senator or community organizer never has to face. She confronted the corruption in Alaskan politics, shot down a 20+ year Washington politician in the primary and beat a former two-term dem governor on a platform of reform. In her wake there are legislators lobbyists headed to JAIL. She even turned in the chairman of her state party and got him fined. She has Obama beat six ways from Sunday on the executive expereince issue.

Next...

Extremist Right Wing to you seems nice and normal to me. I'll chalk that up to politics and leave it at that.

Next...

Media black out on interviews... why would you mess with the after glow she's in now? You'd be a fool to mess with that. It's all maketing right now. Even Barak knows that. She'll face the press. Just not this weekend.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Your posts are horrible.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Let's hit this one by one...

Walt Monegan was her appointee and as such served at her pleasure. She didn't need a reason to fire him. From day one he butted heads with her on budgetary issues and union relations. Not a good way to get along with your new boss...

Enter Mike Wooten, State Trooper and ex-husband to Sarah's sister...

This is a cop that tasered his step-son, shot a moose without a permit, was caught drinking in his patrol car and threatened to kill Sarah's father. Exactly the kind of person you want enforcing the laws... He was also labeled as a threat to the Governor by the governor's head of security... a person who had served at the post for the last six governors... most of whom have been Democrats just in case you're wondering.

Is it Sarah's fault that someone had her ear and mentioned a bad cop? Sure it was her sister. And sure the cop in question was her ex... But does that change the fact that this guy should be in jail... if for no other reason that shooting a moose without a permit? (FYI... Do that and get caught in Ak and you go to jail, your equipment defaults to the state and you get fined... This guy got a short vacation for it) Nevermind the other stuff. Sarah is a reformer, she's not going to abide a bad cop if she knows about it. And the guy deserves to be fired. Right now he's hiding behind the union.

So Sarah asked Monegan to let him go. If she really wanted to excercise her power should could have pressured any of Wooten's supervisors to do it. She didn't need to make Walt do it. In the end, she didn't want charges pressed against him... She just wanted him fired. Walt refused. From what I know having talked to a former Trooper friend of mine it basically boiled down to a union issue. The union refused to go along so Walt refused to go along.

Walt got fired. When he was fired he filed the ethics complaint... or rather the UNION filed the ethics complaint stating that he was fired for not firing the bad cop. Nevermind the head butting with his boss (Sarah) over the other issues.

So even though it's technically an ethics review... nothing will come of it. And I don't see the press reporting the back story at all... only that she is under investigation. Again, another press attack on Sarah with no investigation into what really happened. Screw the facts.

An intelligent leader with common sense would have realized that any interdiction on their part against their former BIL would give off an impression of a conflict of interest and using good judgment they would have not been involved personally. It looks like Palin doesn't have those qualities to be a wise leader using good judgment and would rather use her power of Governor to extract a pound of flesh

FAIL

Next...

Sarah was never a member of the AIP. And for what it's worth, the AIP is not a radical secessionist group. They simply want a vote by the people of Alaska as to whether or not they want to be part of the union, something they feel was denied to Alaskans when Alaska became a state. Beat that horse any way you want. Anyway... just FYI. Sarah was never a member. Her husband used to be. But he's not running for office, is he?

You're right and it's rather obvious he's not wearing the pants in the family so who gives a shit what he thinks

Next...

There might be something here... She made one request that was denied. She fired a librarian. The firing was overturned. Defintely questionable... but as with the firing of Monegan I suspect there is more to this story.

What's to suspect, she asked the Librarian to ban books that Palin didn't think were acceptable for the general public. Thankfully the Librarian refused her authoritarian attempt and stood up to her even when facing retribution for it. And they say Palin is a strong woman. More like a power abusing woman.

Media black out on interviews... why would you mess with the after glow she's in now? You'd be a fool to mess with that. It's all maketing right now. Even Barak knows that. She'll face the press. Just not this weekend.

Yes the less access the press and the American public has to her the better for McCain

 

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Lets see where she is in a month. My prediction the day of her nomination was that she will be a short term plus, and a LARGE long term minus. She's off the deep end to the right and it looks like she has a whole load of skeletons in her closet.

qft

She is not getting this Republican excited. No, it is alienating me further from McSame.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: MadRat

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Lets see where she is in a month. My prediction the day of her nomination was that she will be a short term plus, and a LARGE long term minus. She's off the deep end to the right and it looks like she has a whole load of skeletons in her closet.

qft

She is not getting this Republican excited. No, it is alienating me further from McSame.

You guys need a Barry Goldwater type not a Ma and Pa Kettle.

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: MadRat

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Lets see where she is in a month. My prediction the day of her nomination was that she will be a short term plus, and a LARGE long term minus. She's off the deep end to the right and it looks like she has a whole load of skeletons in her closet.

qft

She is not getting this Republican excited. No, it is alienating me further from McSame.

You guys need a Barry Goldwater type not a Ma and Pa Kettle.

like i mentioned earlier, maybe McCain didn't pick Palin to win but to loss. with that tilt, this choice starts to make sense. so to make a Goldwater possible.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: dawp
I've got a theory i want to pass by y'all.

What if McCain didn't pick Palin to win but to lose. from the rumors floating around he couldn't pick who he really wanted, Ridge or Lieberman, so he pick Palin out of right field to deliberately lose and lose in such a way as to kill the religious right wing of the party.


it is a possibility.

maybe this should have been a thread on it's own, but there are already plenty of Palin threads.

I doubt it. Nobody with enough ambition to run for president is going to sacrifice their one and only chance to spite some religious nuts.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
An intelligent leader with common sense would have realized that any interdiction on their part against their former BIL would give off an impression of a conflict of interest and using good judgment they would have not been involved personally. It looks like Palin doesn't have those qualities to be a wise leader using good judgment and would rather use her power of Governor to extract a pound of flesh

FAIL

So you mean Obama should have had enough common sense to not begin his politica career with an unapologetic domestic terrorist because it might give an impression that Obama support his views?

And do you mean Obama should have had enough common sense to not seek out $3.4 million dollars in earmarks for clients of a Congressional lobbyist R. Hunter Biden (yes, if the last name sounds familiar it's because it is-- R. Hunter Biden is Senator Biden's son), because it might give off the impression of a conflict of interest?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...R2008082603894_pf.html

Or can you only be criticical of someone creating only the impression of a conflict of interest when that person is someone you politically disagree with?

What's to suspect, she asked the Librarian to ban books that Palin didn't think were acceptable for the general public. Thankfully the Librarian refused her authoritarian attempt and stood up to her even when facing retribution for it. And they say Palin is a strong woman. More like a power abusing woman.

Again, never asked the librarian to ban any book. After running for mayor (in which the librarian had openly opposed her candidacy), Palin had a discussion with the librarian-- in what essential was a job interview. As a part of her discussions with the librarian, she merely asked how she would feel about removing any potential objectionable books. The librarian said she had already personally vetted the entire inventory of the library and believed everything there was appropriate for a library of its size, and therefore would be opposed to the remova of any book. Note, that by no account did Palin say "Remove these books or you are fired!"-- she merely was asking her what her stance was on handling books that patrons might find offensive.

I'm suspect that the librarian's original firing (technically it was a dismissal, as that is the right of the incoming mayor to choose her own librarian, cheif of police, and other appointed positions) had far more to do with her support of Palin's mayoral opponent than it had to do with the "banning" any book.

But by all means, believe whatever you want to believe...

Yes the less access the press and the American public has to her the better for McCain

Tell me-- why won't Oprah, a die-hard Obama supporter, have her on her show? I'd venture to say more American women watch Oprah each day than their nightly news.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

An intelligent leader with common sense would have realized that any interdiction on their part against their former BIL would give off an impression of a conflict of interest and using good judgment they would have not been involved personally. It looks like Palin doesn't have those qualities to be a wise leader using good judgment and would rather use her power of Governor to extract a pound of flesh

FAIL

The union and the establishment in power knew about this and didn't do anything. Anybody who isn't blinded by partisanship can see that if she was running on a reform platform and it came to light that there was a crooked cop right in her own family that she knew about and didn't take any action on... it would look hypocritical. Nobody else was doing anything about it so she did.

There was no way for her to win that one so she sided on what was right even if it cost her in the short term. What you described is called 'playing politics' or 'covering your own ass'. What she did was called sticking to your principles and leadership.

 

[jpeyton]

CNN:

Every month of 2008 has had a net loss of jobs.

605,000 jobs lost so far in 2008.

Foreclosures hit new records.

Unemployment at 6.1%; highest in 5 years.

Checkmate.

 

[mshan]

Republicans complaining that Palin put him in the red zone and McLame still couldn't score -> http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=845073181&play=1 :laugh:

 

[Pens1566]

Uh, wasn't the tasering of her nephew done sometime before she complained about it, and not only after her sister got into a nasty custody fight??? Shouldn't she have been concerned about it at the time it happened? You know, being the great example of what every family values first hockey-mom should be???