Palestinians Offered State Five Times The Size Of Palestine By Egyptian President

[nageov3t]

Try this on Fern: your neighbours don't like you, they want your home. NOW MOVE!

sometimes it's for the best.

I've spent a decade telling my parents they should just move rather than continuing to feud with their one neighbors... it's nothing but headaches and money for my parents.

the neighbors have a couple friends on the city council and they use that leverage to get inspectors out to my parents house any time they have the slightest bit of work done on the house.

 

[cabri]

They haven't, certainly not wrt Sisi & Abbas. They have denied it ever happened. The rest is IDF propaganda & obfuscation designed to paint the Pals as jerks.

so you say.

While this link is from Fox - it is referencing Palestinian information

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was quoted by the PA-run Ma'an news service as saying Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi offered up a 617-square-mile chunk of the Sinai Peninsula for a Palestinian homeland. The massive parcel would be five times the size of Gaza, where nearly 2 million Palestinians are crowded into a 139-square-mile strip of land.

“[The Egyptians] are prepared to receive all the refugees, [saying] ‘let’s end the refugee story,’" the news agency quoted Abbas as telling members of the Palestinian Authority Fatah party that governs the West Bank. "A senior leader in Egypt said, ‘A refuge must be found for the Palestinians and we have all this open land.’ This was said to me personally. But it’s illogical for the problem to be solved at Egypt’s expense. We won’t have it.”

The news service quickly scrubbed Abbas' reference to a land deal, the rejection of which could undermine perceptions of Abbas' commitment to peace. But the newspaper Israel Today, citing sources privy to the details of the proposal, said Abbas rejected it despite "substantial Egyptian pressure" to accept it.

 

[Jhhnn]

so you say.

While this link is from Fox - it is referencing Palestinian information

As DSF pointed out, it's fabrication. There are indications that Morsi may have made such an offer, but he's gone, out of power. Both the Egyptians & the Pals deny that Sisi made any offer-

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/inter...bbas-turned-down-a-palestinian-state-in-sinai

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/110225.aspx

But, of course, the fans of Israel want to believe it rather badly, so they will, and he Isreli propaganda machine will roll on as usual.

Oh, and Abbas apparently never said Sisi, but rather a "high ranking Egyptian official" at some unspecified time in the past.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

As DSF pointed out, it's fabrication. There are indications that Morsi may have made such an offer, but he's gone, out of power. Both the Egyptians & the Pals deny that Sisi made any offer-

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/inter...bbas-turned-down-a-palestinian-state-in-sinai

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/110225.aspx

But, of course, the fans of Israel want to believe it rather badly, so they will, and he Isreli propaganda machine will roll on as usual.

Oh, and Abbas apparently never said Sisi, but rather a "high ranking Egyptian official" at some unspecified time in the past.

I said it "appears to be fabrication". Words have meaning.

 

[cabri]

As DSF pointed out, it's fabrication. There are indications that Morsi may have made such an offer, but he's gone, out of power. Both the Egyptians & the Pals deny that Sisi made any offer-

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/inter...bbas-turned-down-a-palestinian-state-in-sinai

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/110225.aspx

But, of course, the fans of Israel want to believe it rather badly, so they will, and he Isreli propaganda machine will roll on as usual.

Oh, and Abbas apparently never said Sisi, but rather a "high ranking Egyptian official" at some unspecified time in the past.

And we will never know the truth.

If the Palestinians rejected the idea (and it was not from Morsi but from Sisi according to the article I linked) it becomes political suicide for any Arab to try to run with it.

Everyone wants to say that this came from the IDF, yet my link states that it was in the Palestinian.

to ensure that you will actually read the statement which you must not of because yoiu refer to Morsi

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was quoted by the PA-run Ma'an news service as saying Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi ...

 

[Exophase]

so you say.

While this link is from Fox - it is referencing Palestinian information

I saw that Fox News article earlier, and I think they screwed this one up badly. Ma'an never reported that an offer was made, unless it was deleted. They were however the ones to report that the offer was NOT made: http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=726105 I am however not sure if Ma'an even keeps articles more than a few days old available for search. Their front page listing doesn't even the denial article anymore. Would they post a news story that made the PA look bad? I doubt it, but I also don't think that the PA would necessarily look bad for rejecting an offer like this, look at how on the first page everyone was saying it was a terrible idea. And before its authenticity was questioned people were saying that Sisi was merely orchestrating it on behalf of collusion with Israel.

But Jhhnn is right, all reasonable sources show that this originated with IDF Radio, not a Palestinian source. Israel, being party to the negotiations in Cairo, could have theoretically witnessed something like this, but the denials from both sides make it very unlikely. I would still contend that this could have perpetuated as a misunderstanding or miscommunication rather than a deliberate deception, but I guess we'll never really know for sure (and I guess I'll probably be called Israel fan for that too)

 

[Jhhnn]

And we will never know the truth.

If the Palestinians rejected the idea (and it was not from Morsi but from Sisi according to the article I linked) it becomes political suicide for any Arab to try to run with it.

Everyone wants to say that this came from the IDF, yet my link states that it was in the Palestinian.

to ensure that you will actually read the statement which you must not of because yoiu refer to Morsi

And, of course, Fox News never distorts anything. "Fox says that Ma'an says" is simply not a reliable source.

 

[JEDIYoda]

And, of course, Fox News never distorts anything. "Fox says that Ma'an says" is simply not a reliable source.

kinda like your mere presence??

 

[Jhhnn]

kinda like your mere presence??

When your original linked piece posits distortion, innuendo & outright lies as fact, pointing that out isn't distortion at all.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Fucking hell. ENOUGH OF THIS childish feud. Convince the two sides that both sides are the same, and fucking blend in. no need to be my side and your side when they can both be on the same fucking side and then nobody will lose out. Stubborn assholes run both sides.

We'd have to drop millions of pounds of marijuana-gas love bombs on the Israelis and Palestinians for months and years. It ain't gonna happen.

 

[John Connor]

By all means, send the Palestinians to a place with no fresh water supply.

http://www.aldokkan.com/geography/sinai.htm

As one smart ass poster said, "try drilling for water and not finding it."

 

[Vic]

That is an incredible offer. The sort of thing necessary to move forward.

"You'll love it on the reservation," said Custer to Sitting Bull.

 

[Jaskalas]

"You'll love it on the reservation," said Custer to Sitting Bull.

I stand by the Palestinians keeping every inch of land they presently have.
Maybe a little more if Israel has violated the West Bank. This doesn't mean that offers of peace and larger borders should be spat upon.
More land they control the harder it would be to isolate and blockade them.

Moreover, I have consistently been calling for Egypt to open their border to Gaza.