Pale Moon 25.0.1 x86 x64 Released

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Pale Moon: Release notes
25.0.1 (2014-10-15)
This is a small update to address an important Jetpack extension compatibility issue and includes a number of security fixes.

Update of the add-on SDK to add missing "Pale Moon" engine entries to lists. This should fix extension compatibility issues for jetpack extensions that otherwise already work with the new GUID.
About box release notes link corrected
Fix for VP9 decoder vulnerability security fix
Fix for direct access to raw connection sockets in http security fix
Fix for unsafe conversion to JSON of data through the alarm dom element security fix
Update of NSS to 3.16.2.2-RTM security fix

x86
http://relmirror.palemoon.org/release/palemoon-25.0.1.win32.installer.exe

x64
http://relmirror.palemoon.org/release/palemoon-25.0.1.win64.installer.exe
 

WT

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Moved back to the last 24.x release, as this update to 25 broke my beloved ForecastFox add-on. Apparently no update for it is being planned, so I will have to find an alternative weather app.
 

Virgorising

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Moved back to the last 24.x release, as this update to 25 broke my beloved ForecastFox add-on. Apparently no update for it is being planned, so I will have to find an alternative weather app.

Sickening. I mean it, Pale Moon Faced Guy bettah watch it....I think he's already skating in thin ice and underestimating how picky we are...and, deserve to BE re which browser to run and WHY, and which requirements are basic and what should be configurable, etc.

Just that he felt it within some normal pervue to impose his narcissistic, personal aesthetic with the logo screen....continues to boggle.
 

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Just that he felt it within some normal pervue to impose his narcissistic, personal aesthetic with the logo screen....continues to boggle.

So, a developer that makes software the way *he* wants is some great affront to you?! You're free to take the code, and make the browser *you* want, just as anyone else can.
 

Virgorising

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So, a developer that makes software the way *he* wants is some great affront to you?! You're free to take the code, and make the browser *you* want, just as anyone else can.

It was not simply an affront to me---inspired my posting a thread centering on it---it is also the essence of bad business. Goal in all commerce, open source no exception, is to conceive and gestate a better mousetrap, which, from the Get, and until build 25, PM was--- while also, always cultivating sensitivity and responsiveness to yr client base and its needs and preferences.

In this case, esp CONFIGURABILITY/compatibility.

Classically, MS places its logo icon start button in the systray.

(O wait!:sneaky: MS shot itself in the foot re this with W8!:cool:)

I am looking at my W7 start button icon...adjacent to my Pale Moon systray icon. left.

Indeedy doo, perfect example of an epic fail/abrogation re the above givens: Windows EIGHT. And when eveyrone went bat doody, did MS say,"Well! You guys are free to write yr own code, bite us?!"

I think not.():)

Finally, I do not write code and have minus 27 desire to learn. (OK..pulled the the minus 27 out of the Moon, but it feels right.:sneaky:)
 
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Sickening. I mean it, Pale Moon Faced Guy bettah watch it....I think he's already skating in thin ice and underestimating how picky we are...and, deserve to BE re which browser to run and WHY, and which requirements are basic and what should be configurable, etc.

Just that he felt it within some normal pervue to impose his narcissistic, personal aesthetic with the logo screen....continues to boggle.

There's always another browser to try if you don't like *his* browser. Have you emailed the developer regarding your issues?
 

Virgorising

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There's always another browser to try if you don't like *his* browser. Have you emailed the developer regarding your issues?

1) I never said I did not like Pale Moon. Quite the opposite. I said clearly, and have since I first learned about it here and got it long ago, I cherish Pale Moon. What I can not bear---along with infinite others on the net, including member of this community: what the developer is doing to it in this new build.

2) Nobody discerning throws the baby out when the bath water begins to CLOUD UP. Yr suggestion is akin to someone responding to justified complaints about America with "If U don like it, leave."

3) If you use the link I posed, and read the excerpt I then pasted from the page I linked to....you will see the issue in question is documented/acknowledged and some response may be in the wings.
 
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1) I never said I did not like Pale Moon. Quite the opposite. I said clearly, and have since I first learned about it here and got it long ago, I cherish Pale Moon. What I can not bear---along with infinite others on the net, including member of this community: what the developer is doing to it in this new build.

2) Nobody discerning throws the baby out when the bath water begins to CLOUD UP. Yr suggestion is akin to someone responding to justified complaints about America with "If U don like it, leave."

3) If you use the link I posed, and read the excerpt I then pasted from the page I linked to....you will see the issue in question is documented/acknowledged and some response may be in the wings.

1) have you communicated directly with the developer?

2) No, it's "akin" to if you don't like a product, use another one.

3) Again, have you communicated your concerns directly to the developer?
 

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I think the reason most people are using Pale Moon is because they were being forced to do things Mozilla's way and they got tired off all the constant changes. Now PM is doing the same thing and it's turning people off.

I feel like every program and every website is 'forcing' the user to do things their way. They are also changing things just for the sake of change. It's plain madness. "If it ain't broke don't fix it".

I'm to the point I'll pay a reasonable annual fee for a browser that puts security, function and options first. Something like the older Firefox versions or the recently revived K-Meleon comes to mind.
 

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I guess Pale Moon uses a specific GUID in addons for version 25. So I tried to edit ForecastFox's XPI file with the GUID of the good versions of Adblock from over @ Pale Moon's website. I could not get ForecastFox to work with the modified GUIDs. LOL! It was a test though. ForecastFox installed into Pale Moon 25, but no functionality.

I switched to Pale Moon after Firefox's BS with their GUI and ousting their CEO. I'm not upgrading to 25 until I know my addons will work. I can confirm however that Noscript works and you have to use their ADblock Plus/Edge. The one from Mozilla won't work. I just have so many critical privacy related addons I don't want to lose them. One of them is called Secretagent and it helps prevent cookieless cookies. I have turned all cache off too so that helps some what prevent cookieless cookies. You only enable one option in Secretagent, and that is the send spoofed Etag. If you enable any other options forums won't work.
 
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Virgorising

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I think the reason most people are using Pale Moon is because they were being forced to do things Mozilla's way and they got tired off all the constant changes. Now PM is doing the same thing and it's turning people off.

I feel like every program and every website is 'forcing' the user to do things their way. They are also changing things just for the sake of change. It's plain madness. "If it ain't broke don't fix it".

I'm to the point I'll pay a reasonable annual fee for a browser that puts security, function and options first. Something like the older Firefox versions or the recently revived K-Meleon comes to mind.

Very interesting, all of the above. And the "
if it ain't BROKE, do not mess with it"......I could not agree with more.

Strikes me that Caliber ebook manager updates almost every time I open it, which is like every 11 minutes. always get the update, never even look at the release notes....why? Cause whatever they are improving ongoing never ever compromises the brilliantly written function of the app!!!

The reason I didn't capitulate even when a fellow member here posted a link....and rolle back to 24, was, now that I can manage to get rid of the logoscreen with one click when I open PM, I am invested in that Pale Moon Face, over time, will address the downsides of what he has done in 25, and put them right.
 

Virgorising

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I guess Pale Moon uses a specific GUID in addons for version 25. So I tried to edit ForecastFox's XPI file with the GUID of the good versions of Adblock from over @ Pale Moon's website. I could not get ForecastFox to work with the modified GUIDs. LOL! It was a test though. ForecastFox installed into Pale Moon 25, but no functionality.

I switched to Pale Moon after Firefox's BS with their GUI and ousting their CEO. I'm not upgrading to 25 until I know my addons will work. I can confirm however that Noscript works and you have to use their ADblock Plus/Edge. The one from Mozilla won't work. I just have so many critical privacy related addons I don't want to lose them. One of them is called Secretagent and it helps prevent cookieless cookies. I have turned all cache off too so that helps some what prevent cookieless cookies. You only enable one option in Secretagent, and that is the send spoofed Etag. If you enable any other options forums won't work.


Well John--- Hi, John!---YOU are more pragmatically deliberate & intelligent than I am. Is a fact.:(
 

Virgorising

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http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

You won't get as many addons as Firefox, but it's a decent classic browser.

Thank U....I am an optimist under it all. I am hanging in to give Pale Moon Faced a chance to restore the lean integrity and viability of pM to what it was since I started using it.....and fix what ended up messed up in this last build.

We shall see in the fullness of time if this happens before Global Warming gets all of us.:sneaky: