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Pakistani Christian children seized by Islamist slave traders

Braznor

Diamond Member
I have nothing to say. These animals deserve to be shot out of hand :|

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Rescued ? the Pakistan children seized by Islamist slave traders
Marie Colvin, Muridke

Hoax saves boys held for months


THE slave traders came for 10-year-old Akash Aziz as he played cops and robbers in his dusty village in eastern Punjab.
Akash, still in the maroon V-neck sweater and tie that he had worn to school that day, was a ?robber?. But as he crouched behind a wall, waiting for the schoolfriend designated as the ?cop? to find him, a large man with a turban and a beard grabbed him from behind and clamped a cloth over his nose and mouth before he could cry for help.



He recalls a strange smell and a choking sensation. ?Then I fainted,? said Akash, a delicate little child from a loving family that takes pride in his enthusiasm for English lessons at school.

Akash woke up in a dark room with a bare brick floor and no windows. The heat was suffocating. As he languished there over the next month, 19 other panic-stricken boys were thrown into the room with him.

The children, all Christians, had fallen into the hands of Gul Khan, a wealthy Islamic militant and leading member of Jamaat-ud Daawa (JUD), a group linked to the Al-Qaeda terrorist network.

Khan lives near Pakistan?s border with Afghanistan, but when in the Punjab he stays at the JUD?s headquarters in Muridke, near Lahore, where young men can be seen practising martial arts with batons on rolling green lawns patrolled by guards with Kalashnikovs. Osama Bin Laden funded the centre in the late 1990s.

The JUD, which claims to help the poor, says that it has created a ?pure Islamic environment? at Muridke that is superior to western ?depravity?. Khan?s activities explode that myth. He planned to sell his young captives to the highest bidder, whether into domestic servitude or the sex trade. The boys knew only that they were for sale.

This is the story of the misery that Akash and his friends, aged six to 12, endured in captivity; of their rescue by Christian missionaries who bought their freedom and tried to expose the kidnappers; and of the children?s moving reunions with their loved ones who had believed they were dead.

Last week I had the privilege of taking six of the boys home to their families, including Akash. The astonishment of mothers and fathers who had given up hope and the fervent, tearful embraces made these some of the most intensely emotional scenes I have witnessed.

That joy was a long time coming. On the first day after his abduction, Akash was left in no doubt about the brutality of the regime he would endure.

?I drank from a glass of water and one of the kidnappers pushed me so hard I fell on the glass and it broke in my hands,? he said. His slender fingers still bear the scars. No more glass for him, he was told: he was fit to drink only from a tin cup.

The boys were ordered not to talk, pray or play. Five of them were playing a Pakistani equivalent of scissors, paper, stone one day when the guards burst in and beat them savagely on their backs and heads. On another occasion Akash was repeatedly struck by guards yelling ?What is in your house?? ?I kept telling them, ?We have nothing?,? he said anxiously. ?I was so afraid they would go back and rob my father and mother.? It is painful to imagine blows raining down on the ribs of so slight a figure.

The guards mostly sat outside playing cards, shaded from the 116F heat by a tree. But the boys were allowed out of their room only to use a filthy hole-in-the-ground lavatory. All they could see were high walls around the two-room building that was their prison. The other room was always locked.

The children were fed once a day on chapatis and dhal, but never enough. Akash slept huddled against the others on the floor and woke each morning a little more resigned to his fate.

?We just sat around the walls thinking,? Akash said. ?We were remembering our homes and our mothers and fathers and hoping someone would rescue us. But nobody came.?


..... (continued in the article which runs five pages)

Timesonline. UK.

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Cliffs:

1. Children abducted by Pakistani slave traders.
2. Sold for sexual slavery or servitude.

Enough said!!!! :|
 
Don't think that this is simply a Christian Muslim thing: these slave traders (Regardless of the religion they claim) go for whoever they can get...and a few threads have sufaced here lately talking about the sex trade that thrives in places like Dubai where young Muslim Children are brought in...and sadly it leads to the sex trade often.
As always, the government should take a tough stand against stuff like this...especially when it comes to children.
 
Penalty is Death in Islam, so dont even sit there and call them Muslims. It makes me sick how the media tries to give Islam a bad name
 
Death is a penalty for a lot of things in Islam. Maybe if Islam focused on killing people a bit less we wouldn't have the problem we have now. Christianity got over its murdering rampage a couple of centuries ago. Do we really need to go through the same thing with Islam?
 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Death is a penalty for a lot of things in Islam. Maybe if Islam focused on killing people a bit less we wouldn't have the problem we have now. Christianity got over its murdering rampage a couple of centuries ago. Do we really need to go through the same thing with Islam?



This coming from a guy that advocates killing millions - what a clown.
 
No, actually if you freakin implemented the punishments for crimes, then guess what??? people would be less likely to comit them. ****** idiot loves the world bull ******, come on man. Maybe if christians would follow what is ordained in their own text, America wouldnt be full of people commiting Adultery and divorce rates wouldnt be out the ass. BTW learn what Islam is about before you even say one word about it buddy.

FYI Dont base a Relgions on the actions of its people, The Islamic world today is not implemented the way its supposed to. The governments in the Middle East arent Muslim governments, they are pieces of ****** and the so called "Kings" of Suadi Arabia and pretty much all the other countries need to be over thrown and a correct Islamic Government should be established.
 
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Meuge
Death is a penalty for a lot of things in Islam. Maybe if Islam focused on killing people a bit less we wouldn't have the problem we have now. Christianity got over its murdering rampage a couple of centuries ago. Do we really need to go through the same thing with Islam?



This coming from a guy that advocates killing millions - what a clown.

Of all people to point that out, you are probably the least qualified :roll:
 
This has little to do with religion than the rampant sex trade and child traffiking in South East Asia and the Middle East. However, this act is still condemnable and the perpertrators should be punished to the highest extent possible.

Personally, I think stronger efforts have to be made to curb this traffiking business from the region. I have heard a lot of such things about sex traffiking from India and child traffiking from Pakistan to Middle East. Lately, I have been hearing such things about Afghanistan too. Some steps were taken to stop the child traffiking and I commend the Pakistani government for them since they were partially effective. However, it did not fully curb the trade. Later on, I remember reading an article about a radio controlled robot for those camel races where these children are used by those filthy rich sheikhs (it got some coverage in Time magazine).

There has been coverage of such activities from Iraq too.

I only hope serious efforts are made to curb human trade from the region.
 
Originally posted by: TheArabian
No, actually if you freakin implemented the punishments for crimes, then guess what??? people would be less likely to comit them. ****** idiot loves the world bull ******, come on man. Maybe if christians would follow what is ordained in their own text, America wouldnt be full of people commiting Adultery and divorce rates wouldnt be out the ass. BTW learn what Islam is about before you even say one word about it buddy.

FYI Dont base a Relgions on the actions of its people, The Islamic world today is not implemented the way its supposed to. The governments in the Middle East arent Muslim governments, they are pieces of ****** and the so called "Kings" of Suadi Arabia and pretty much all the other countries need to be over thrown and a correct Islamic Government should be established.

Not everyone in America is Christian, buddy. I find it convient how you can say that people who practice Islam, but don't do it your way, aren't Islamic. That seems awfully convienent.
A correct Islamic Government, that would be a riot.
 
We do not remember when all this was done to us and so we can do it to others. Whether you do unto the child or the slaver, it is all what was done to yourself. It is this karmic cycle that makes evil endless.
 
Originally posted by: TheArabian
....correct Islamic Government should be established.

wow, this is really interesting to me. can you tell me what a correct Islamic gov. should be like. i've got arab friends that i'm close with. we talk about religion & politics every once in a while, but he's never said anything like that before.

BTW he's originally from Lebanon but lived at the AARAMCO compound in saudi for a time.
 
Originally posted by: amish
Originally posted by: TheArabian
....correct Islamic Government should be established.

wow, this is really interesting to me. can you tell me what a correct Islamic gov. should be like. i've got arab friends that i'm close with. we talk about religion & politics every once in a while, but he's never said anything like that before.

BTW he's originally from Lebanon but lived at the AARAMCO compound in saudi for a time.

My guess is that one that follows actual principles in Islam in order to actual enforce penalties such as this one. I realllly doubt this guy's "business" is secret to the government and most likely than not they are just turning a blind eye to the activities.
 
Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: amish
Originally posted by: TheArabian
....correct Islamic Government should be established.

wow, this is really interesting to me. can you tell me what a correct Islamic gov. should be like. i've got arab friends that i'm close with. we talk about religion & politics every once in a while, but he's never said anything like that before.

BTW he's originally from Lebanon but lived at the AARAMCO compound in saudi for a time.

My guess is that one that follows actual principles in Islam in order to actual enforce penalties such as this one. I realllly doubt this guy's "business" is secret to the government and most likely than not they are just turning a blind eye to the activities.

As I recall many moslems in that part of the world view a govt. about like the taliban as being the correct form?
 
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: amish
Originally posted by: TheArabian
....correct Islamic Government should be established.

wow, this is really interesting to me. can you tell me what a correct Islamic gov. should be like. i've got arab friends that i'm close with. we talk about religion & politics every once in a while, but he's never said anything like that before.

BTW he's originally from Lebanon but lived at the AARAMCO compound in saudi for a time.

My guess is that one that follows actual principles in Islam in order to actual enforce penalties such as this one. I realllly doubt this guy's "business" is secret to the government and most likely than not they are just turning a blind eye to the activities.

As I recall many moslems in that part of the world view a govt. about like the taliban as being the correct form?

No way...never.
 
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: TheArabian
No, actually if you freakin implemented the punishments for crimes, then guess what??? people would be less likely to comit them. ****** idiot loves the world bull ******, come on man. Maybe if christians would follow what is ordained in their own text, America wouldnt be full of people commiting Adultery and divorce rates wouldnt be out the ass. BTW learn what Islam is about before you even say one word about it buddy.

FYI Dont base a Relgions on the actions of its people, The Islamic world today is not implemented the way its supposed to. The governments in the Middle East arent Muslim governments, they are pieces of ****** and the so called "Kings" of Suadi Arabia and pretty much all the other countries need to be over thrown and a correct Islamic Government should be established.

Not everyone in America is Christian, buddy. I find it convient how you can say that people who practice Islam, but don't do it your way, aren't Islamic. That seems awfully convienent.
A correct Islamic Government, that would be a riot.

Firstly no ****** not everyone in America is Christian.. I'm born and raised in America.

Secondly Islam literally means to follow Gods will, and someone who is Muslim is someone who follows Gods will. So with that, considering that Islam is layed out very specifically in how a society is supposed to act and a person is supposed to act, you have to understand that if someone is not following Islam the way it is supposed to be followed, they are not doing Gods will, inturn they are not a Muslim.

So, Like i said dont say anythign about Islam untill you know what Islam is, and i'm not talking about the ****** you see on the news.

Thirdly "This has little to do with religion than the rampant sex trade and child traffiking in South East Asia and the Middle East. However, this act is still condemnable and the perpertrators should be punished to the highest extent possible.
"

This article clearly has religious implications, if it did not then why do they even have to mention that the children were christians and the assholes were "muslim"? Its just another form of the media to give Islam a bad name to he general western public.

Fourth "As I recall many moslems in that part of the world view a govt. about like the taliban as being the correct form?"

This is a very incorrect statement, Talk to Afgani refugees. Furthermore its not like there are mini-islamic goverments, so the Taliban can in no way be considered one. Once again you have to understand how the Sharia(Islamic Law) works. With this understanding you would see that in todays world, the way the Muslims are... a Islamic Government cant be implemented until the trash i.e. kings of the middle east, are removed and the Muslims are united.


FYI Its spelled Muslim
 
Originally posted by: TheArabian

a Islamic Government cant be implemented until the trash i.e. kings of the middle east, are removed and the Muslims are united.

So what do you propose to do with non-Muslims in the Middle East? Genocide them? Why should they be oppressed and forced to live under an Islamic government?
 
Originally posted by: TheArabian

Maybe if christians would follow what is ordained in their own text, America wouldnt be full of people commiting Adultery and divorce rates wouldnt be out the ass. BTW learn what Islam is about before you even say one word about it buddy.

Based on Google's data, Saudi Arabia is one of the top countries searching for gay sex on the Internet. I guess they're not following their text either 😀
 
Originally posted by: TheArabian
No, actually if you freakin implemented the punishments for crimes, then guess what??? people would be less likely to comit them. ****** idiot loves the world bull ******, come on man. Maybe if christians would follow what is ordained in their own text, America wouldnt be full of people commiting Adultery and divorce rates wouldnt be out the ass. BTW learn what Islam is about before you even say one word about it buddy.

FYI Dont base a Relgions on the actions of its people, The Islamic world today is not implemented the way its supposed to. The governments in the Middle East arent Muslim governments, they are pieces of ****** and the so called "Kings" of Suadi Arabia and pretty much all the other countries need to be over thrown and a correct Islamic Government should be established.

People like you are the problem

 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: TheArabian

a Islamic Government cant be implemented until the trash i.e. kings of the middle east, are removed and the Muslims are united.

So what do you propose to do with non-Muslims in the Middle East? Genocide them? Why should they be oppressed and forced to live under an Islamic government?
Offer them the option to convert, and if they refuse strike off their heads, as written in the Qu'ran.

At least in Christian and Jewish societies people who claim Leviticus should be taken seriously are laughed out of the room (although US has been making some noticeable strides towards regression back to the times of the Inquisition).
 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: TheArabian

a Islamic Government cant be implemented until the trash i.e. kings of the middle east, are removed and the Muslims are united.

So what do you propose to do with non-Muslims in the Middle East? Genocide them? Why should they be oppressed and forced to live under an Islamic government?
Offer them the option to convert, and if they refuse strike off their heads, as written in the Qu'ran.

that WAS sarcasm, right?

sorry, my meter must be broken...
 
Originally posted by: TheArabian
FYI Dont base a Relgions on the actions of its people, The Islamic world today is not implemented the way its supposed to. The governments in the Middle East arent Muslim governments, they are pieces of ****** and the so called "Kings" of Suadi Arabia and pretty much all the other countries need to be over thrown and a correct Islamic Government should be established.

'Correct' Islamic Governments as described by many of the former nutjobs on this forum would be one of the single most despicable entities in the world.
 
Originally posted by: TheArabian
No, actually if you freakin implemented the punishments for crimes, then guess what??? people would be less likely to comit them. ****** idiot loves the world bull ******, come on man. Maybe if christians would follow what is ordained in their own text, America wouldnt be full of people commiting Adultery and divorce rates wouldnt be out the ass. BTW learn what Islam is about before you even say one word about it buddy.

FYI Dont base a Relgions on the actions of its people, The Islamic world today is not implemented the way its supposed to. The governments in the Middle East arent Muslim governments, they are pieces of ****** and the so called "Kings" of Suadi Arabia and pretty much all the other countries need to be over thrown and a correct Islamic Government should be established.

When the people of the Middle East desire 'islamic govts' then we are very well entitled to form opinions of their religion based on their actions. We do not care how Islam is supposed to be, all we care is what it is right now and what we have seen so far does not ljustify it a favorable opinion in our minds.

Do not get me even started on your opinion of establishing a 'correct islamic govt'

 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: TheArabian

a Islamic Government cant be implemented until the trash i.e. kings of the middle east, are removed and the Muslims are united.

So what do you propose to do with non-Muslims in the Middle East? Genocide them? Why should they be oppressed and forced to live under an Islamic government?
Offer them the option to convert, and if they refuse strike off their heads, as written in the Qu'ran.

At least in Christian and Jewish societies people who claim Leviticus should be taken seriously are laughed out of the room (although US has been making some noticeable strides towards regression back to the times of the Inquisition).


LMAO, wow most ignorant statement i have ever heard "Offer them the option to convert, and if they refuse strike off their heads, as written in the Qu'ran."

Like i said dont say anything abotu Islam until you know what its about and what it teaches. Its ridiculous statements like that that make people think the wrong things abotu Islam. Show me where in the Quran it says that?

It really disgusts me how ignorant people can be.

FYI the "People" do desire the Islamic Government, but the Non-Islamic Government doesnt....

Also if you judge Islam on the actions of a few you are an idiot. Do i sit there and say wow look, Charles Manson? Those Christains disgust me? no becuase jut becuase one Lunatic is a dip ****** i'm not gana view that relgions through the actions of that person.
Or do i look at the Crusades and Say wow look at how those christians act. (FYI they literally said Convery or off with ur heads, FYI never in Islam) No i dont.
There are only 2 ways you can understand or even view Islam and that is by analyzing the Quran (The Holy Book of the Muslims) and the Hadith ( which is the ways of the Prophet Mohammed, its a lot like the new testament, esentially thing the prophet said and did outside of Quranic Revalation) By analyzing those two things, then you can barely even attempt to say the things that some of you are sayings.

In closing i would really appreciate it if you guyz understood that this really isnt a game, where you can just bash a Religion. As a Muslim its very offensive for people who dont even know what they are talking about, to sit there and try to bash Islam? If you knew what Islam taught there is no way you could for ONE second think its an Unjust, Unfair, or teaches an immoral way of life.

This is the last sermon given by Prophet Mohammed before he died.

Show me the unjust?
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THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S LAST SERMON
(This Sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H in the Uranah Valley of mount Arafat )

"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I don't know whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you carefully and TAKE THIS WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.

O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (Interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived...

Beware of Satan, for your safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and comitted helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to commit adultery.

O People, listen to me in earnest, whorship ALLAH, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to. You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. YOU ARE ALL EQUAL. NOBODY HAS SUPERIORITY OVER OTHER EXCEPT BY PIETY AND GOOD ACTION.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QUR'AN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me direcly. BE MY WITNESS O ALLAH THAT I HAVE CONVEYED YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR PEOPLE."
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