pain, windows 7, and bfbc2 optimization.

[jordanecmusic]

1. i am having discomfort in both wrists after playing an extended period of time. I have never had this problem before and I don't know why its happening now. could it be that my mouse is too small? its a dell mouse (xps style) that came with it.

2. Does windows 7 aero automatically disable when playing games?

3. Does windows 7 aero even effect game play when playing games?

4. why does bfbc2 have this extremely annoying bloom effect?

and 5. why does homefront look EXACTLY like bfbc2 but bfbc2 runs at half the frames that homefront runs?

 

[Maximilian]

1. i am having discomfort in both wrists after playing an extended period of time. I have never had this problem before and I don't know why its happening now. could it be that my mouse is too small? its a dell mouse (xps style) that came with it.

2. Does windows 7 aero automatically disable when playing games?

3. Does windows 7 aero even effect game play when playing games?

4. why does bfbc2 have this extremely annoying bloom effect?

and 5. why does homefront look EXACTLY like bfbc2 but bfbc2 runs at half the frames that homefront runs?

1. Masturbate less

2. Yes it does

3. No it dosent unless your graphics card is ultra low end but aero switches itself off so its not a factor

4. No idea

5. Homefront is unreal engine 3 whereas BFBF2 is frostbite 1.5? so they have different engines and different system requirements. Destructible terrain is likely a major factor to why BFBC2 is more demanding.

 

[Barfo]

 

[Red Hawk]

and 5. why does homefront look EXACTLY like bfbc2 but bfbc2 runs at half the frames that homefront runs?

As Maximilian said, they run on different engines. BF:BC2's engine has a LOT more destructible buildings and terrain; this strains the processor (not the graphics card) and there's no way to turn it down.

 

[Dankk]

5. why does homefront look EXACTLY like bfbc2 but bfbc2 runs at half the frames that homefront runs?

Really? They look the same? Granted, I haven't played Homefront, but it's hard for me to believe that it beats BC2's graphics (which are pretty stellar). On the other hand, they were also released a year apart, so... *shrug*

As others have stated, Bad Company 2 uses the Frostbite engine, a proprietary engine by DICE that is considerably more high-tech than anything Homefront uses. In BC2 there are destructible environments; buildings around you are collapsing, the maps are huge, and generally stuff is blowing up everywhere. It can definitely make your computer chug if you don't have the proper hardware. Because of BC2's physics the game is actually quite CPU demanding.

 

[Cerb]

1. i am having discomfort in both wrists after playing an extended period of time. I have never had this problem before and I don't know why its happening now. could it be that my mouse is too small? its a dell mouse (xps style) that came with it.

Find a good comfy mouse. If you had a prior mouse that was fine, find a nice one like that. Despite tracking superiority of several newer mice, ergonomics keeps bringing me back to the MX518. If you have changed keyboard, chair, or desk, that would be something, too. If you use a laptop, you are finally beginning to understand why they categorically suck as desktop replacements.

2. Does windows 7 aero automatically disable when playing games?

Only when compatibility settings are set for it to.

3. Does windows 7 aero even effect game play when playing games?

No.

4. why does bfbc2 have this extremely annoying bloom effect?

Why do half the games out there either have an annoying bloom effect, soften filter, or DoF? Hell if I know. If it's not a normal settable option, see if Google can help you turn it off.

 

[jordanecmusic]

no laptop for me. i probably just need a good computer desk or something... and an ergonomic mouse...

btw the unreal engine 3 does have destructible environments. they didnt use that in homefront though.

 

[Red Hawk]

The destructible environments possible in Frostbite 1.5 far exceed those possible through Unreal Engine 3. But regardless, if Homefront doesn't use destructible environments the point stands.

 

[jordanecmusic]

also one quick question. will having 4 gigs of ram benefit more than having 2gigs? gaming wise

 

[Mike Gayner]

and 5. why does homefront look EXACTLY like bfbc2 but bfbc2 runs at half the frames that homefront runs?

WTF you're nuts. Homefront is a pig-ugly game.

 

[Mike Gayner]

also one quick question. will having 4 gigs of ram benefit more than having 2gigs? gaming wise

Is this a serious question? Or you trollin?

 

[jordanecmusic]

The destructible environments possible in Frostbite 1.5 far exceed those possible through Unreal Engine 3. But regardless, if Homefront doesn't use destructible environments the point stands.

thats true. but have you played the physx levels on ut3? theyre pretty...cool i guess.

 

[jordanecmusic]

Is this a serious question? Or you trollin?

no im just wondering if its really that big of a deal

 

[Maximilian]

no im just wondering if its really that big of a deal

I had 2GB with my medium spec laptop in 2007, C2D T7xxx 2.2ghz and a geforce 8600GT and even with that pretty lousy specs it was a drag. I upgraded to 4GB and all the thrashing went away.

2GB today would be unusable for me. 4GB+ is what you need now unless you run your games low res and low details which is a waste of time IMO, buy a console in that case

 

[minmaster]

no im just wondering if its really that big of a deal

don't mind him. he's the anand resident troll himself.

 

[jordanecmusic]

WTF you're nuts. Homefront is a pig-ugly game.

yeah if your on 360 or ps3

 

[Red Hawk]

It still doesn't quite measure up to BF:BC2. BC2 makes use of DirectX 11 and can use native anti-aliasing, while Homefront's still back at DirectX 9 and has no native anti-aliasing.

 

[dfuze]

1. i am having discomfort in both wrists after playing an extended period of time. I have never had this problem before and I don't know why its happening now. could it be that my mouse is too small? its a dell mouse (xps style) that came with it.
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A mouse too small could lead you to play with your wrist bent at a bad angle. Another idea is to look at the hight of your chair, maybe raise it up or lower it to get at a more comfortable position to put less stress on your wrists.

 

[goobernoodles]

Google carpal tunnel exercises.

Then stretch.

 

[jordanecmusic]

It still doesn't quite measure up to BF:BC2. BC2 makes use of DirectX 11 and can use native anti-aliasing, while Homefront's still back at DirectX 9 and has no native anti-aliasing.

Homefront uses DirectX11, 10, and 9 and supports anti-aliasing natively. so that nullifies the discussion of Directx11 being put into play. The unreal engine got an update, you should check out how far they've gone with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzjsTt_DzCw

and to show how beautiful the environments can look on the unreal engine 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5XahF-3DWo&feature=relmfu

Source is Dx9 and i use AA all the time!

As for BC2...no AA for DX9...

 

[jordanecmusic]

1. i am having discomfort in both wrists after playing an extended period of time. I have never had this problem before and I don't know why its happening now. could it be that my mouse is too small? its a dell mouse (xps style) that came with it.
QUOTE]
A mouse too small could lead you to play with your wrist bent at a bad angle. Another idea is to look at the hight of your chair, maybe raise it up or lower it to get at a more comfortable position to put less stress on your wrists.

you know...that could be it. my chair is lower than it should be..

 

[ImDonly1]

Check your wrist position like said above, don't bend it.
Don't slouch, etc. Taking breaks during PC use will also be good.

I would also recommend a better mouse. Go for a light-weight mouse like a logitech gaming mouse, G5. I bought mine for $30 it is super light.

 

[Red Hawk]

Homefront uses DirectX11, 10, and 9 and supports anti-aliasing natively. so that nullifies the discussion of Directx11 being put into play. The unreal engine got an update, you should check out how far they've gone with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzjsTt_DzCw

and to show how beautiful the environments can look on the unreal engine 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5XahF-3DWo&feature=relmfu

Source is Dx9 and i use AA all the time!

As for BC2...no AA for DX9...

I stand corrected. Eurogamer's DigitalFoundry left that detail out of their technical analysis of Homefront.

 

[jordanecmusic]

Check your wrist position like said above, don't bend it.
Don't slouch, etc. Taking breaks during PC use will also be good.

I would also recommend a better mouse. Go for a light-weight mouse like a logitech gaming mouse, G5. I bought mine for $30 it is super light.

better mouse ftw! i got a microsoft wireless intelimouse explorer 2.0. extremely ergonomic. my wrist does not hurt what so ever anymore and my aim in left4dead has increased soo much!

 

[AstroManLuca]

Use this guide, it will help you a ton. Be sure to read the whole thing very carefully, there are some steps where you have to edit ini files.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/313/radco2.jpg