PAB v Jim Rathmann Chevorlet

[SarcasticDwarf]

Wow, and to think I actually used to respect PAB. Way to be a bottom feeding leech.

 

[fenrir]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
While its a well written letter, why do you feel the need to play the race card? What did they do to indicate that they would be taking advantage of you because youre Asian?

Same thing I thought.

Once you played the race card, you became just as bad as the people who were trying to screw you.

Matt

 

[RagingBITCH]

Race card, you = idiot.

 

[Steve]

I liked the bit about Sunoco fuel, but nobody needed the Asian part.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: jemcam

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
While its a well written letter, why do you feel the need to play the race card? What did they do to indicate that they would be taking advantage of you because youre Asian?

That's exactly what I was thinking. How did race come into the picture? You had me rooting for you until I saw you brought up the Asian thing, then I just thought you were a dick that was grabbing at straws to come up with anything bad you could say.

Future advice; leave race out of the picture. I think Morgan Freeman said it best when he was asked about racism recently. He said that if people will stop talking about it and bringing it up, sooner or later it will quit being an issue.

WTF dude, people like you that bring up race any time something doesn't go your way really pisses people off. Where's the proof that this racially motivated?

Because auto dealers would NEVER try to rip off someone who's black or caucasian.

Right?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Race card = Failure

- M4H

 

[Armitage]

Yep - you had a solid case without the race card. Plenty of white folks get fscked by dealers as well.

If you don't want to be treated differently due to your race then don't play the race card at every opportunity.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: jemcam

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
While its a well written letter, why do you feel the need to play the race card? What did they do to indicate that they would be taking advantage of you because youre Asian?

That's exactly what I was thinking. How did race come into the picture? You had me rooting for you until I saw you brought up the Asian thing, then I just thought you were a dick that was grabbing at straws to come up with anything bad you could say.

Future advice; leave race out of the picture. I think Morgan Freeman said it best when he was asked about racism recently. He said that if people will stop talking about it and bringing it up, sooner or later it will quit being an issue.

WTF dude, people like you that bring up race any time something doesn't go your way really pisses people off. Where's the proof that this racially motivated?

Because auto dealers would NEVER try to rip off someone who's black or caucasian.

Right?

Right! They NEVER would have tried this with a white male. Everyone knows they're too smart to get ripped off! :disgust: Or is it because they won't rip off "their own kind"?:roll:

 

[franksta]

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Official "I grew up in Melbourne and therefore must now respond" reply.

sup

and my dad's shop is right down the street from Rathmanm

 

[Steve]

Hey PAB, have you posted this at the SA forums yet?

If so, has it been gassed?

 

[SaturnX]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Race card = Failure

- M4H

 

[mcvickj]

I agree with the others. The letter would have worked just fine without playing the race card.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Race card = Failure

- M4H

I totally agree...He said it was a suburban. Who races those anyway.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
While its a well written letter, why do you feel the need to play the race card? What did they do to indicate that they would be taking advantage of you because youre Asian?

Generallly speaking, when you're dealing with any civil matter - you have to use every possible thing to your advantage. It gets down to where you've got a hand of cards and you start having to throw out everything you can in an effort to make something stick.

Additionally - looking at the sheer basis of the claim, you'll note that those two clowns tried screwing me and I called BS. The two at the other dealership immediately saw what was wrong and offered to do the warranty work. Coincidence? Happenstance? I don't think so. I can't help but think that they went into the back room and said "this guy dosent know ******, lets take him for a ride" - also worth noting, service advisors are commisioned employees.

As it turns out, the persons responsible were fired two weeks after my letter was sent. I guess my claims weren't unfounded after all.

PAB, shame on you for using the race card.

Dealerships/mechanics try to scam people all the time, regardless of race.

I'm glad you got satisfaction, but I bet you would have received the same without throwing in the fact you are Asian.

 

[PAB]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
While its a well written letter, why do you feel the need to play the race card? What did they do to indicate that they would be taking advantage of you because youre Asian?

Generallly speaking, when you're dealing with any civil matter - you have to use every possible thing to your advantage. It gets down to where you've got a hand of cards and you start having to throw out everything you can in an effort to make something stick.

Additionally - looking at the sheer basis of the claim, you'll note that those two clowns tried screwing me and I called BS. The two at the other dealership immediately saw what was wrong and offered to do the warranty work. Coincidence? Happenstance? I don't think so. I can't help but think that they went into the back room and said "this guy dosent know ******, lets take him for a ride" - also worth noting, service advisors are commisioned employees.

As it turns out, the persons responsible were fired two weeks after my letter was sent. I guess my claims weren't unfounded after all.

PAB, shame on you for using the race card.

Dealerships/mechanics try to scam people all the time, regardless of race.

I'm glad you got satisfaction, but I bet you would have received the same without throwing in the fact you are Asian.

Gee, I didn't think it would be such a huge deal since I felt I was being discriminated against.

As I mentioned before, and I really hate to say this but - civil matters are difficult to resolve most of the time. To get a good outcome, you've got to know what's going on and be prepared to throw everything up to and including the kitchen sink at the opposing party. It gets to a point where you have to decide "am I being too harsh" or "BRING IT ON BITCHES". Sometimes you need to use everything to your advantage. As most of you know, I like winning but I'm not going to cheat about it. If I can say I feel there's been a double standard here, I'm going to say it and not be ashamed for doing so.

In short, its and ends v means debate.

...and if you guys think this is bad, you ought to see the EEOC complaint I'm filing against my FORMER employer. This isn't a race card play. That is.

 

[dowxp]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Race card = Failure

- M4H

 

[Accipiter22]

race card...ugh. CLOSE THE BORDERS!

 

[Abel007]

Good read until the race card was played. I know you've read this 100 times by now, but you had a solid case w/o it. That mechanic that was fired probably won't work anywhere near you anymore because he'll be labeled as a racist as well as his manager.

 

[PAB]

Originally posted by: Abel007
Good read until the race card was played. I know you've read this 100 times by now, but you had a solid case w/o it. That mechanic that was fired probably won't work anywhere near you anymore because he'll be labeled as a racist as well as his manager.

I spoke with several GM techs about this. Generally, one incident does not cause a firing.

The interim management had told me that the individuals at fault were slacking off and that they were ready to leave anyways and the owner had finally had it with them. This just happened to accellerate the process.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: PAB

Gee, I didn't think it would be such a huge deal since I felt I was being discriminated against.

Okay ... well you still have yet to answer anyone's question where they asked what made you feel as though you were being discriminated against for the sheer fact you are asian.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
While its a well written letter, why do you feel the need to play the race card? What did they do to indicate that they would be taking advantage of you because youre Asian?

Generallly speaking, when you're dealing with any civil matter - you have to use every possible thing to your advantage. It gets down to where you've got a hand of cards and you start having to throw out everything you can in an effort to make something stick.

Additionally - looking at the sheer basis of the claim, you'll note that those two clowns tried screwing me and I called BS. The two at the other dealership immediately saw what was wrong and offered to do the warranty work. Coincidence? Happenstance? I don't think so. I can't help but think that they went into the back room and said "this guy dosent know ******, lets take him for a ride" - also worth noting, service advisors are commisioned employees.

As it turns out, the persons responsible were fired two weeks after my letter was sent. I guess my claims weren't unfounded after all.

PAB, shame on you for using the race card.

Dealerships/mechanics try to scam people all the time, regardless of race.

I'm glad you got satisfaction, but I bet you would have received the same without throwing in the fact you are Asian.

Gee, I didn't think it would be such a huge deal since I felt I was being discriminated against.

As I mentioned before, and I really hate to say this but - civil matters are difficult to resolve most of the time. To get a good outcome, you've got to know what's going on and be prepared to throw everything up to and including the kitchen sink at the opposing party. It gets to a point where you have to decide "am I being too harsh" or "BRING IT ON BITCHES". Sometimes you need to use everything to your advantage. As most of you know, I like winning but I'm not going to cheat about it. If I can say I feel there's been a double standard here, I'm going to say it and not be ashamed for doing so.

In short, its and ends v means debate.

...and if you guys think this is bad, you ought to see the EEOC complaint I'm filing against my FORMER employer. This isn't a race card play. That is.

Which is the race card play? The car dealer thing or the EEOC complaint? If you're admitting the dealership thing was NOT a racial thing WTF did you bring it up and say that it is? It's this sort of thing that has people sick and tired of hearing the race card played. You're bringing it up just because you think you can.

 

[jemcam]

I have formidable claims of professional negligence and race and national origin discrimination against Jim Rathmann Chevrolet.

Where is your proof to back up your formidable claims of race and national origin discrimination?

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
While its a well written letter, why do you feel the need to play the race card? What did they do to indicate that they would be taking advantage of you because youre Asian?

Generallly speaking, when you're dealing with any civil matter - you have to use every possible thing to your advantage. It gets down to where you've got a hand of cards and you start having to throw out everything you can in an effort to make something stick.

Additionally - looking at the sheer basis of the claim, you'll note that those two clowns tried screwing me and I called BS. The two at the other dealership immediately saw what was wrong and offered to do the warranty work. Coincidence? Happenstance? I don't think so. I can't help but think that they went into the back room and said "this guy dosent know ******, lets take him for a ride" - also worth noting, service advisors are commisioned employees.

As it turns out, the persons responsible were fired two weeks after my letter was sent. I guess my claims weren't unfounded after all.

PAB, shame on you for using the race card.

Dealerships/mechanics try to scam people all the time, regardless of race.

I'm glad you got satisfaction, but I bet you would have received the same without throwing in the fact you are Asian.

Gee, I didn't think it would be such a huge deal since I felt I was being discriminated against.

As I mentioned before, and I really hate to say this but - civil matters are difficult to resolve most of the time. To get a good outcome, you've got to know what's going on and be prepared to throw everything up to and including the kitchen sink at the opposing party. It gets to a point where you have to decide "am I being too harsh" or "BRING IT ON BITCHES". Sometimes you need to use everything to your advantage. As most of you know, I like winning but I'm not going to cheat about it. If I can say I feel there's been a double standard here, I'm going to say it and not be ashamed for doing so.

In short, its and ends v means debate.

...and if you guys think this is bad, you ought to see the EEOC complaint I'm filing against my FORMER employer. This isn't a race card play. That is.

uh, no you didn't. you even said above:

Generallly speaking, when you're dealing with any civil matter - you have to use every possible thing to your advantage.

 

[Pepsi90919]

and why did you address it "Dear Chevrolet:" ?

 

[Legendary]

Originally posted by: jemcam

I have formidable claims of professional negligence and race and national origin discrimination against Jim Rathmann Chevrolet.

Where is your proof to back up your formidable claims of race and national origin discrimination?

The best part of the race card is that all you need to play it is a different color skin than the person you're playing it against.

Edit: For clarification