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P5Q 16 power phase

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Yes, we know that you think he's stupid, but you haven't actually explained why he's not correct. Simply calling someone stupid doesn't make it so.
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No one with power supplies expertise would use multi-rail as a BOM cost cutting saving technique. If it was feasible at all, it would be used 30 years ago and not wait til now.

This creatively made-up technique is reasonable and believable only to ignorant people and tree-stump experts.

Hey!! Any other experts here ever use "RAID" as BOM cost cutting saving technique? I may learn something new.
 
Hey, I'm just an old retired electrician, but I can tell you for a fact that if you overclock you should use a single rail power supply. Like the PC Power & Cooling 750 watt Silencer, or the OCZ 520 if you just need a light duty P/S. I don't know much about motherboard phases but I know an Asus fan boy when I hear one. But this I know, a stout single phase can deliver cleaner power than a multi-phase power supply. The multi-phase power scheme for modern PC power supplies is a cost cutting effort on the part of the manufacturer and is not as good as a heavy single phase. I assume motherboards can not achieve a heavy single rail so they must use a mutli-phase system. I assume that 8 phases is optimal for your heavy-duty overclockers. But you had better do your research as most retailers will say an "8 phase" when electricly the P/S is just 4 phases. Yes it is as much a marketing scheme as anything.

DFI can out clock the Asus' boards almost to a fault, and 8 phases works just fine. The Rampage seems to be the best overclocker Asus has, and it's only an 8 phase setup (I believe, but please correct me if I'm wrong, here I'm out on a limb cause I can't remember.) If Asus wanted to make a green overclocking motherboard, why not stick to just 8 phases and shut down 4 of them. I still can't understand why any overclocker would want the motherboard making up it's mind about anything, I don't want my power being cut in half, (or by any amount for you nick pickers) when I overclock my rig. I want total control.

But to get back to fan boy beray, calling people ignorant and double posting is very rude, when the person your saying this to at least referenced his post (and makes more sense than you.) Leaves you sounding like the tree-stump. So if you can't reference your rant with some actual articles that people can look up to prove your point, or just call people names like a 13 year old, who is going to listen to you? Oh, and in 30 years of working on everything from old DC P/S that controlled the fields instead of the armatures to modern AC drives (Reliance for the most part) that you tote a laptop out to troubleshoot, I've found that no different model of power supplies are the same, not even the theory. Maybe the ones in your tree stump?
 
Originally posted by: petercintn
Hey, I'm just an old retired electrician, but I can tell you for a fact that if you overclock you should use a single rail power supply. Like the PC Power & Cooling 750 watt Silencer, or the OCZ 520 if you just need a light duty P/S. I don't know much about motherboard phases but I know an Asus fan boy when I hear one. But this I know, a stout single phase can deliver cleaner power than a multi-phase power supply. The multi-phase power scheme for modern PC power supplies is a cost cutting effort on the part of the manufacturer and is not as good as a heavy single phase. I assume motherboards can not achieve a heavy single rail so they must use a mutli-phase system. I assume that 8 phases is optimal for your heavy-duty overclockers. But you had better do your research as most retailers will say an "8 phase" when electricly the P/S is just 4 phases. Yes it is as much a marketing scheme as anything.

DFI can out clock the Asus' boards almost to a fault, and 8 phases works just fine. The Rampage seems to be the best overclocker Asus has, and it's only an 8 phase setup (I believe, but please correct me if I'm wrong, here I'm out on a limb cause I can't remember.) If Asus wanted to make a green overclocking motherboard, why not stick to just 8 phases and shut down 4 of them. I still can't understand why any overclocker would want the motherboard making up it's mind about anything, I don't want my power being cut in half, (or by any amount for you nick pickers) when I overclock my rig. I want total control.

But to get back to fan boy beray, calling people ignorant and double posting is very rude, when the person your saying this to at least referenced his post (and makes more sense than you.) Leaves you sounding like the tree-stump. So if you can't reference your rant with some actual articles that people can look up to prove your point, or just call people names like a 13 year old, who is going to listen to you? Oh, and in 30 years of working on everything from old DC P/S that controlled the fields instead of the armatures to modern AC drives (Reliance for the most part) that you tote a laptop out to troubleshoot, I've found that no different model of power supplies are the same, not even the theory. Maybe the ones in your tree stump?
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Reasonable and believable required lots of references, as reasonable and believable needed strong faith, belief, trust, and little brain power to be even more "reasonable and believable" to make "sense".

My answers do not use "reasonable and believable" to make "sense" only brain power needed to comprehend, references rarely ever required, nor faith, nor belief, nor trust necessary. An example below...

"It's a Distributed Processing design, think of it as UBER-RAID.

1 of 16 failed is still only 1/16th, most times the powered systems wouldn't even notice the failure. And when the point of failure so small to notice, lots of powered systems needed no repair whatsoever."



BTW, I'm no good as "fan boy beray", I lacked the fundamental requirements...

-- Reasonable and believable.
-- strong faith, belief, trust, and little brain power.
-- References to "my mom, my dad, my granpa, my teachers, and other experts also said..."
 
Summarization of "P5Q 16 power phase means what?"

Superior English version used the world over...
ASUS´ revolutionary True 16-phase power design utilizes true hardware power regulation to guarantee genuine power efficacy. During heavy CPU loadings, the intelligent power design automatically switches to 16-phases; and conversely during low processing periods, it uses a responsive 4-phase system to power the CPU ? raising VRM efficiency. A power design that does not have auto phase switching will be unable to increase power efficiency; and lower VRM efficiency will still drop off the Output Current and result in wasted power and increased heat. The new True 16-phase design maintains an exceptional power efficiency of up to more than 96% ? resulting in less power drawn, lower temperatures and excellent delivery of performance in comparison to competing models. With the True 16-phase power design, users will enjoy reduced operating temperatures and extended lifespans of key components such as the CPU and motherboard.
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Short, precise and direct to the point EE version...
Asus's design used optimal engineering practice, power density output scaling in 3dB steps or 4 power channels per 3dB of power resolution.
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College and 12th grade level version...
It's a classical Distributed Processing design, full power bandwidth achieved through 16 aggregate channels (16-phase), with auto dynamic granular control of 4 ala 4, 8, 12, 16... or 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% power.
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Grade school level version...
Think of a 400HP 16-cylinder engine. 400HP 16-cylinder engine is more reliable and more dependable than 400HP 1 cylinder engine, as each of the 16 cylinders only had to withstand 25HP worth of stress. (simple aprox)

However, this is a special 400HP 16-cylinder engine. It functions as efficient as a regular 100HP 4-cylinder engine, because it works as a 100HP 4-cylinder engine when that's all needed... And became 200HP 8-cylinder, 300HP 12-cylinder, 400HP 16-cylinder engine on demands.
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PS. Anyone needed explanation why 16-cylinder engine not ever used as cost cutting saving technique?
 
anyone explain why beray doesn't have a life? yeesh..the guy you were insulting said his piece and is long gone..you're arguing with yourself, in case you didn't notice, son🙂
 
The summarize addendum will aid other "experts" like the electrician above in this forum. 🙂

With slight effort in grade school level brain power usage instead of "reasonable and believable", there would be no need to let 30 wasted years go by and still be this ignorant --> "The multi-phase power scheme for modern PC power supplies is a cost cutting effort on the part of the manufacturer and is not as good as a heavy single phase."
 
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