p4p800e deluxe "System Failed CPU Test" ***HELP***

[kater1]

This is the same system I had problems with here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2040484

Just the other day I went to start-up my system and I got "System Failed CPU Test".

I went through the following to try to fix:

Reseat CPU
Removed all RAM
Reseat video card
Removed all add on cards
Removed all hard drives and CD drives
Reseat power connectors
Removed battery and cleared CMOS with jumper(system unplugged). Put jumper back and battery back in.


I tried to reboot. Note, only thing hooked to board was CPU (and cpu fan), usb mouse, usb keyboard, video card, and power supply. Got the same message.


Any other clues as to what to check? I ordered a used CPU from Ebay to test with. Am waiting on it to get here. I have read other post in this forums but find no definite answer. Like this one:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1615235&highlight=system+failed+cpu+test+p4p800

More a trouble shooting list than a fix. None of the suggestions help. Anyone have a clue? The system specs can be seen by clicking on My Main Rig link below.

Thanks for the help in advance.

Bill

 

[topdog5252]

Have you tried another cpu?Do you know the cpu works?Have you tried different kind of ram maybe one stick could be bad.Are all the caps level?AMaybe they are buldging?Try 2 differnt cpus,2 different kinds of ram and try each slot seperately and one stick at a time in all four slots and make sure there is no trash,dust,etc. in the slots causing a error.Maybe it could be a a loose cap are bad solder on the board and also look real hard at the board and make sure none of the leads are nicked any where on the board.If you need any more info feel free to pm me and i have the same exact board i can send you a pic to make sure it looks all the same.Well other than the bios chip could be corrupted i have no clue from there other than it could be DOA.I hope this helped you let me know if it did.Good Luck.

 

[Blazer7]

Maybe it could be a a loose cap are bad solder on the board and also look real hard at the board and make sure none of the leads are nicked any where on the board.

Some of the early P4C800/P4C800-E Deluxe boards developed the "System Failed CPU Test" problem because of bad solders. There were 2 pairs of solders with excessive material in the form of blobs on the back side of the board right underneath the HSF backplate. With time the pressure exercised by the backplate resulted in the deformation of the solder blobs which caused a short circuit.

However I have only heard of a similar problem with the P4P800E Deluxe only once and I still have reservations about the owner of that board. That said, I do not know if it’s worth checking this as this requires the removal of the board and the HSF retention mechanism. The only sure thing is that bad solders can cause this kind of problems.

 

[kater1]

I ordered a 2nd cpu to try. Should be here today or tomorrow.

I removed all ram completely and get same results.

Also removed all unneeded hardware to see if it would post. Basicly had the video card and cpu installed.

When you say "Are all the caps level? Maybe they are buldging?". What caps do you mean? The diode tops?

If the new cpu I get does the same thing I will pull the board and look for bad solder.

I purchased this from Newegg on 1/24/2005, so it has served me well. If all else fails I guess it will be time to replace.

Thanks

 

[kater1]

got my new CPU today. Same error. System Failed CPU Test.

Now what? Should I order a new 'USED' P4p800 board or start fresh and upgrade to a Dual core?

Any suggestions?

 

[tomt4535]

Well, if you upgrade to brand new parts, you will pretty much need an entire new computer. You will need a new CPU, motherboard, video card and RAM. More than likely you will need a Power supply and maybe even a hard drive or optical drive. If you have the $$$, go for it, you will have a MUCH better computer when you are done. If you don't have a ton of cash, find a used board somewhere and stretch it out for a little while longer.

 

[zagood]

You're looking at $60+ for a new (used) motherboard to run very out of date hardware. That's a tough one...if you've only got $60 - $70 to spend, go that route. If you've got $150 - $200, you can find a good used C2D or even 775 Pentium combo (with ram) that will blow what you have away. Add another $50 to move to a low-range PCIe video card that will spit on your 9250.

For new parts on a budget, check Anand's guide (well, Hollister's actually):
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=3739

 

[kater1]

After some checking ebay. I hate to spend $50-$75 for a "used" motherboard that may last a month or less. Or it may last another 5 years. Who knows? When I could sell my CPU and the extra one I purchased ($25?), the four sticks of OCZ PC3200 1gb each($100?
), and my video card ($15?), add a little cash ($150-$200) and have a decent running up-to-date system.

So, unless anyone has a better ideal, that is most likely what I will do.

Thanks for the input. Now to research hardware to determine what to get.

 

[SonicIce]

well you need at least 1 stick of ram for it to do anything, make sure u have at least 1 in there

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

FYI, if you're still on the fence about upgrading, 3btech.net sells refurbished Asrock 775Dual-VSTA boards for ~$27 shipped that would let you use the majority of your current hardware (though it's limited to a max of 2GB DDR/DDR2). Their site appears to be down atm, though.

 

[ReefaMadness]

Google "over trick" and bake your board for a few minutes to see if that doesn't fix your bad solder points.

Has worked on video cards and motherboards and it won't cost you but a few minutes of your time. After all, what have you got to loose?

Here is a link to one short guide for a graphics card, but there are others, so read them to get a good feel for the process. Again, the same approach has been used on motherboards.

http://www.notebookforums.com/post3052378.html

Here's another. See post #220 in this one:

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606658&page=8


Keep this little tip in mind, I think that it should be a good indicator of how long to keep it in the oven.

"You could make a small piece of solder in the shape of a cobra and place it in the oven beside the mobo, when you see the solder melt you will know the solder on the motherboard will follow shortly."

 

[kater1]

well you need at least 1 stick of ram for it to do anything, make sure u have at least 1 in there

I get the voice reporter that says "System failed CPU test". This happens with or without memory installed. I have tried each of my 4 sticks in each of the 4 slots by themselves. (failed all 16 times). It does not even "beep" at me.

 

[kater1]

Made up my mind. Am going to do a upgrade. I can throw $250 toward this upgrade.

I started a new thread here (http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=29608172#post29608172) to get input on my choices.

Thanks

Bill