p4 or amd upgrade...you chime in!!!

Duvie

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option 1:

Keep existing ECS mobo and sell 1.4tbird.
Replace it with a 1900+xp

cost=216.00 shipped (120.00 after sell of tbird and hsf)

option 2:

Sell ECS mobo and 1.4tbird.
Replace it with a Iwill xp333 or hopefully soon asus sis735 and a 1800+xp AGOGA (go ocing options)

cost ~270.00 shipped (130.00 after sell of mobo and tbird/ hsf)

option 3:

Sell ECS mobo and 1.4tbird.
Replace it with a MSI Ultra ARU i845 mobo and get a 1.8a ghz northwood
OC it hopefully at least to 2.2ghz (many seem to be doing this easily) if not more as MSI board is extremely good ocer.

cost ~360.00 shipped (220.00 after sell of mobo and tbird/hsf



Now the P4 conversion cost more....but...If I can get to 2.2ghz I have slightly better xp2000+ performance. Anymore above that and its pure pleasure. I also think this mobo which I need to replace my current one anyways will offer the longest path of upgradeability as well as I think future 533fsb support. Board has usb 2.0 support and ata133.

The athlon is cheaper and even at 1900+ speed is probably in my cadd appzs just as good as a p4 at 2.2ghz. My multimedia appz would stand to greatly benefit with a p4 northwood and 512kb cache. Thoroughbreds just around the corner so saving money is good, though I am hardly the one who always gets the latest and greatest.


Bottom line....Is this a bang for the buck issue????

 

Wolfsraider

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<< Bottom line....Is this a bang for the buck issue???? >>



obviously not !


best bang for the buck would apply if your processor or motherboard were outdated(which they are not or the motherboard would not be included in your upgrade choices)unusable or unstable etc...




<< though I am hardly the one who always gets the latest and greatest >>



but again you must be thinking that this is the end all do all end of the line for upgrading ?yet next year...
and the next year....


you said

<< probably in my cadd appzs just as good >>

and

<< multimedia appz would stand to greatly benefit >>



but the truth is that a 1.4 is a respectable preocessor and capable of these tasks at a slightly reduced
rate but still very respectable.

if you need the xtra power these two great new processors can provide then by all means do so but comparing apples to oranges is pointless as the differences only matter in a personal choice view.
and you will be the only one to decide which fits your expectations best.

also you didnt specify if a dual processor setup might serve you better or an amount you WANT to spend
to achive goal x or goal y

so the bottom line pick what you like and ask people who own them their views as all the choices look great

just my humble opinion

hope this helps
 

sad

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Well, how about option 4? Stick with what you have. I don't think you'll feel much a difference with any of your proposed upgrades. Well it's up to you, I wouldn't upgrade just for upgrading sake. I'd save up for a mature t-bred. Things don't really look interesting till hammer.
 

Kerouactivist

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I would either do nothing, or upgrade your processor. Then when the Thoroughbred's come out upgrade your processor and mobo accordingly.

IMHO

Also when are the Thoroughbred's coming out?
 

Vernor

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>I also think this mobo which I need to replace my current one anyways will offer the longest path of >upgradeability as well as I think future 533fsb support.


Doesn't seem that long-term upgradeability is a concern with you...
 

Om

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Upgrade the processor and keep your board. Performance wise as was stated you are going to end up not really being able to tell the difference with any of the upgrades you suggested, except for your bank account. I can't imagine that your 1.4 Tbird isn't doing everything you want it to, but maybe you are just concerned with keeping the economy on track? If so, then thanks!
 

Duvie

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I think I would feel the performance...In divx movie making the difference would be noticeable as it was just going from a 1.1 to a 1.4ghz...now with xp's and a p4 that is possible to get to hit 2.2ghz along with having the fsb near 533mhz I think it would be noticeable...

For cadd I am fine...i am sure it would likely shave some of my rendering time down a bit but hardly the only factor...


Any other thoughs???How about somebody who has gone from a tbird to a northwood...
 

formulav8

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<< I think I would feel the performance...In divx movie making the difference would be noticeable as it was just going from a 1.1 to a 1.4ghz...now with xp's and a p4 that is possible to get to hit 2.2ghz along with having the fsb near 533mhz I think it would be noticeable...

For cadd I am fine...i am sure it would likely shave some of my rendering time down a bit but hardly the only factor...


Any other thoughs???How about somebody who has gone from a tbird to a northwood...
>>



You've seen the benches. The XP and 2.2 NW are right on each others heals. The 1.4 tbird is not far from NW in itself. I would just keep what you have. You will not see a difference going with either cpu in anything IMO.


Jason
 

imgod2u

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It seems kinda silly to upgrade everything if you can upgrade just the processor and get a significant peformance increase. Honestly, a 1.4 T-Bird should be sufficient for at least until the end of the year. Not that many games stress it that much. If you care about the difference between an AthlonXP 1.5 GHz over a 1.4 GHz Athon T-Bird, chances are you'll appreciate the performance a 2.4-2.6 GHz Northwood would bring. Why do you think a 1.5 GHz AthlonXP would be so much better than your current T-Bird anyway? It's not that big a difference. Gotta remember, an Athlon 1800+ isn't really 1.8 GHz Athlon, it's 1.533 GHz, which, at most, will gain you 20% performance in the most CPU intensive programs.
 

Duvie

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< Gotta remember, an Athlon 1800+ isn't really 1.8 GHz Athlon, it's 1.533 GHz, which, at most, will gain you 20% performance in the most CPU intensive programs. >

first of alll, duh!! I know that and I said I would try to oc it and get it up to near 2000 levels...

As for 20percent...are you guys high??? 20percent would be noticeable to me in my progs...I don't play games...got better things to do....


If I can get the 1.8 to 2.2ghz then it is faster then 2000+ in multimedia apps I use plus I imagine it represents more then a 20 percent gain for me.


I like to upgrade in about 400mhz in preformance boost...I went from 750 to 1100 to 1400 intbirds a 1800 or 1900 would be in line with performance boosts, as would a 1.8@2.2ghz northwood.

If I went northwood I would likely next upgrade somewhere around 2.6ghz


Have ppl heard for sure the socket will remaion for the 533fsb northwoods rumored to be out in april???
 

microAmp

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Have to agree with a couple of post above, either keep it for a while longer, and wait for AMD's T-bred to come out to see what you can out of that, or go dual CPU's if your OS can do it. On top of that, I don't know the time line of it, but if Intel is going to relase the 533 FSB then wait for that instead.