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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Wags1974
When you get the right size screwdriver you may need to do a "faux pas" and hit it squarely with a hammer too help loosen up the screw holding the rotor to the hub. If you do have any trouble getting them off remember that and put a superthin coat of high temperature caliper grease between the rotor and hub so you never have the problem again. (Clean it up first of course scotch pad usually works fine for me)

much worse :p i just needed a socket and a philips head driver

but there are damaged hold-springs [that keep the pads off the rotor] and i have to mickey-mouse one out of wire till i get a set tomorrow ... it isn't dangerous ... just time consuming

... thanks for the OT assist

i much prefer working on computers :p

my hands stay clean ... and no asbestos dust

ANYWAY .. in between .. i worked on my o/c

i got 3.75 Ghz ... 222FSB x 17 at 1:1 divider with a vcore to 1.65 [reads 1.60 in HW doc] ... since my RAM is mismatched and i believe i only got them to 223 before ... i went to 2.6v ... cannot adjust ANY timings ... was a problem with ic7 before and stability.

so ... final 3DMark05 score ... ... with my x1950p at stock

9546 ... eat your :heart: out Keys :D

--but my CPU score is only 4609 :(

i *know* i can probably get closer to 10K if i OC my x1950p ... that old 7900GT is gonna need a hell of an OC to get 10K :p

the *worst* temp was 65*C dropping out of FEAR to check it ... not that bad under extreme load

---and in a HOT as hell room [82*F] :(

Hmmm. Maybe my mobo is helping out with the CPU score. After all, you have the 1066 bus on that EE right? I'm still at 800. And you have 2MB L2. I'ze only gotz wun. ;)
Using the P5AD2-Deluxe. Oh yeah, I am also using 91.31's for my drivers. I wonder what updated ones will do. ......... .... .... I'll be back!!!!! :D
 

apoppin

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nope 122x4=888FSB ... 800FSB at stock ... it has 512KB L2 Cache ... half yours ... but an additional 2MB L3 cache ... and i got 'this close' to 3.8Ghz ... 3.74 :p
i *know* i can get +60Mhz with a good cooler ... and an overvolt ... but then RAM will be 5:4

... my mismatched RAM holds back anything over 222-223 at 1:1 and even at 215FSB still can't take "aggressive" or "turbo" timings.

BTW, the updated nvidia drivers suck ... :p


i mean ... do try them :Q

:D

84.21 is what the nvidia boys swear by ;)

now you gotta beat 9546
:shocked:


 

evolucion8

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I just finished overclocking this CPU and here are the results:

I overclocked the CPU to 3.8GHz and was able to play F.E.A.R with no problems but for some reason the performance was the same, probably I'm GPU limited but the game performed weird, it was a bit more smooth, but sometimes some hiccups would happen, something that didn't happen before, I didn't like it, may be the RAM is not helping me that much. I was unable to use 3DMark05 cause anything beyond 3.73 would crash the benchmark when it was doing CPU tests. So I ran the benchmark at 3.7GHz and my score inflated from 6,1xx to 6,335 and the CPU score from 4748 to a lowly 3987. Seems that the overclocking help a bit my videocard, but don't understand why the CPU scored lower. I didn't increase the volts of the Vcore and I used the 5:4 FSB ratio. Probably the sweet spot would be 3.6GHz or 3.65GHz. The weird thing is that though I was unable to pass beyond 3.73GHz with my Northwood, the CPU score increased, both run the same temperature considering that this Gallatin Core dissipates 13.9 Watts more of heat. 89W against 102.9. Tell me if I'm doing something wrong.
 

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Originally posted by: evolucion8
I just finished overclocking this CPU and here are the results:

I overclocked the CPU to 3.8GHz and was able to play F.E.A.R with no problems but for some reason the performance was the same, probably I'm GPU limited but the game performed weird, it was a bit more smooth, but sometimes some hiccups would happen, something that didn't happen before, I didn't like it, may be the RAM is not helping me that much. I was unable to use 3DMark05 cause anything beyond 3.73 would crash the benchmark when it was doing CPU tests. So I ran the benchmark at 3.7GHz and my score inflated from 6,1xx to 6,335 and the CPU score from 4748 to a lowly 3987. Seems that the overclocking help a bit my videocard, but don't understand why the CPU scored lower. I didn't increase the volts of the Vcore and I used the 5:4 FSB ratio. Probably the sweet spot would be 3.6GHz or 3.65GHz. The weird thing is that though I was unable to pass beyond 3.73GHz with my Northwood, the CPU score increased, both run the same temperature considering that this Gallatin Core dissipates 13.9 Watts more of heat. 89W against 102.9. Tell me if I'm doing something wrong.

first of all, how are the temps?

IF i remember right from reviews - there was some clock throttling when a thermal threshold was reached ... well above 65C ... i thought ... and my EE exhibited weird behavior with the crap alumimium HSF

first, find your max core OC using the 5:4 divider ... with or without out added voltage
[1.575 is stock vcore for 3.4EE ... check HW doc or MB monitor to see the actual voltage ... i need 1.6v in ic7 BIOS to actually get 1.58v]


[and make *sure* it is running cool] that will be your 'top' stable OC...
... then work on getting the RAM to 1:1 [i say 2.6v is 'safe' for a short test] ... then run 3DMark05
i thought your RAM was pretty capable ... over 225Mhz or so ... unlike mine which tops out at 222/223 FSB ... but still enough for 3.74G in my rig

as to "sweet spot" .. for me, it is 3.65Ghz ... absolutely no temperature change over 3.4Ghz ... everything 'stock' ... for day-to-day use [not benchmark testing ... then it's 3.74G]

finally ... FEAR is a poor choice .. it *needs* to run at 10x7 ... and your GPU is struggling [i had a x850xt ... the experience is SO much better with x1950p ... even at 14x9 ... with 2xAA/4xAF ... maxed out]

anyway, if your rig was unstable in 3DMark05, it was probably also unstable in FEAR ... hence the 'weirdness' ... get your highest *stable* CPU OC and then try FEAR again ... at 10x7
 

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I envy you appopin; you really are squeezing the last drop of performance from the P4/AGP plataform.

I wish I had a s939...even with AGP, I'd be able to get an X2 and a X1950XT AGP when they are finally released, I'd have a rig that'd easily last me for a year.

Darn s754. :(
 

apoppin

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aren't there some really good upgrades with S754?
... or are you already 'there' ? :(

the x1950p should even benefit a below-stock P4 2.80c from preliminary tests in Video by Paratus and others.;)
-it begins to really 'shine' with a 3.0 ... that's an a64 2800+ and up ... but may be OK with the fastest XPs

 

evolucion8

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: evolucion8
I just finished overclocking this CPU and here are the results:

I overclocked the CPU to 3.8GHz and was able to play F.E.A.R with no problems but for some reason the performance was the same, probably I'm GPU limited but the game performed weird, it was a bit more smooth, but sometimes some hiccups would happen, something that didn't happen before, I didn't like it, may be the RAM is not helping me that much. I was unable to use 3DMark05 cause anything beyond 3.73 would crash the benchmark when it was doing CPU tests. So I ran the benchmark at 3.7GHz and my score inflated from 6,1xx to 6,335 and the CPU score from 4748 to a lowly 3987. Seems that the overclocking help a bit my videocard, but don't understand why the CPU scored lower. I didn't increase the volts of the Vcore and I used the 5:4 FSB ratio. Probably the sweet spot would be 3.6GHz or 3.65GHz. The weird thing is that though I was unable to pass beyond 3.73GHz with my Northwood, the CPU score increased, both run the same temperature considering that this Gallatin Core dissipates 13.9 Watts more of heat. 89W against 102.9. Tell me if I'm doing something wrong.

first of all, how are the temps?

IF i remember right from reviews - there was some clock throttling when a thermal threshold was reached ... well above 65C ... i thought ... and my EE exhibited weird behavior with the crap alumimium HSF

first, find your max core OC using the 5:4 divider ... with or without out added voltage
[1.575 is stock vcore for 3.4EE ... check HW doc or MB monitor to see the actual voltage ... i need 1.6v in ic7 BIOS to actually get 1.58v]


[and make *sure* it is running cool] that will be your 'top' stable OC...
... then work on getting the RAM to 1:1 [i say 2.6v is 'safe' for a short test] ... then run 3DMark05
i thought your RAM was pretty capable ... over 225Mhz or so ... unlike mine which tops out at 222/223 FSB ... but still enough for 3.74G in my rig

as to "sweet spot" .. for me, it is 3.65Ghz ... absolutely no temperature change over 3.4Ghz ... everything 'stock' ... for day-to-day use [not benchmark testing ... then it's 3.74G]

finally ... FEAR is a poor choice .. it *needs* to run at 10x7 ... and your GPU is struggling [i had a x850xt ... the experience is SO much better with x1950p ... even at 14x9 ... with 2xAA/4xAF ... maxed out]

anyway, if your rig was unstable in 3DMark05, it was probably also unstable in FEAR ... hence the 'weirdness' ... get your highest *stable* CPU OC and then try FEAR again ... at 10x7

Yeah. My OCZ RAM is not that much capable of Overclocking, at 1:1 FSB Ratio, I cannot overclock beyond 3.65GHz without having problems at boot. And at 5:4 FSB Ratio, cannot go beyond 3.73GHz. The main problem with F.E.A.R. in my card is the following. Running this game at ultra high settings requires 2GB of RAM, cause the paging is the thing which slows me down a bit in this game when it loads different levels, also a 512MB card will fair better in this game at this quality setting. My experience is good in this game, it nevers dip below 25fps. Once I upgrade the GPU, the performance boost will be better, not two fold, (Unless if i get the GeCube X1950XT AGP). I currently had the VCore at 1.58V, the CPU when overclocked never exceeded 55C, the RAM Voltage is on 2.85V, PAT was deactivated once I overclocked. RAM with ultra low latency are bad overclockers, I want to get a 2GB pair of PC4000 so I can boost the system bandwidth considerably with this hungry bandwidth little beast. It doesn't run warmer than the Northwood chip I got before considering it has almost 3 times more transistors and dissipates a bit more watt, and is also a bit more overclockable, weird eh?
 

apoppin

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that is *weird* i thought your RAM was very capable ... it has the really fast modules, doesn't it? you did add extra voltage! :p
... 3.65... what is that 216FSB? :(

in FEAR, i DO think the game will be much more stable and fluid ... having a x850xt>1950p ... and yep, 2x1GB RAM in DC would be Very nice and i am looking for a hot deal that will run at 222FSB --at least PC3500 but i think PC4000 is overkill since i will *never* need over 225 with this CPU unless i want to go the extreme cooling/overvolting/OC'ing route ... and i don't think so.

ANYway ... what do you think ... is a 3.4c>3.4ee "worth it" ... everything considered? ;)

my 2.80c @ 3.31Ghz to 3.4EE @ 3.74Ghz sure was :)
 

evolucion8

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Originally posted by: apoppin
that is *weird* i thought your RAM was very capable ... it has the really fast modules, doesn't it? you did add extra voltage! :p
... 3.65... what is that 216FSB? :(

in FEAR, i DO think the game will be much more stable and fluid ... having a x850xt>1950p ... and yep, 2x1GB RAM in DC would be Very nice and i am looking for a hot deal that will run at 222FSB --at least PC3500 but i think PC4000 is overkill since i will *never* need over 225 with this CPU unless i want to go the extreme cooling/overvolting/OC'ing route ... and i don't think so.

ANYway ... what do you think ... is a 3.4c>3.4ee "worth it" ... everything considered? ;)

my 2.80c @ 3.31Ghz to 3.4EE @ 3.74Ghz sure was :)


Yeah, many games now runs smoother, no more hiccups like before when some games strained the CPU with lots of codes (Half Life 2 anyone), same heat output and better overclockability. The Northwood CPU performance was almost on par with the performance requirements for the X800XT PE GPU, now I'm GPU bound. This motherboard has a feature that you can increase the RAM speed without increasing the FSB speed, it can go as high as 533MHz, that's why I want a PC4000 RAM. Also once I overclock the FSB, the RAM bandwith will not be a bottleneck and not have to require to use 5:4 ratios and that stuff, I want 1:1. But not sure if is better to choose 4x512MB RAM's or 2x1GB which will increase the timings due to the larger density RAM modules.
 

Matt1970

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Hey Guys and Gals. New Poster here. I stumbled across this forum after googling 3/4EE overclocking. I am a long time Overclocker from way back. My first was a 166MMX that I would run at 200MHz. My next adventure was a PII 333 that was supposed to be multiplier locked, but after scraping off the Bus Indentifier pin I could run that at either 400 or 450 w/100 bus. Next was my 900MHz Celeron that would run at 1.2GHz. I held on to that for the longest time. A couple years ago I did some homework and ended up with the 2.4C wich runs good at 3.3 and would sometimes lock up at 3.4 but I was running the stock cooler. I also had a 9800SE which softmoded and basicly turned it into a 9800PRO but since have upgraded to a 6800GT.

Friday I got one of the last 3.4EE 478's off NewEgg being that it is basicly the fastest socket 478 processor and seeing some of the people getting 3.7-3.8 clock speeds and the 2M L3 Cache which I hope will be here mid week. I also got a ZALMAN CNPS7000B and they are going into my Albatron board. I figure $100 minus what I will be able to sell my 2.4C for, this was a good upgrade and saves me from having to get a new Board/Chip/Mem. I will post some benchmarks when I get it up and running.

Matt
 

evolucion8

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Cool, how much did the P4EE cost you on Newegg.com? Cool, after 2 years of released, now the demand for this great CPU is growing for AGP enthusiast like us which do not need the PCI-E path yet.
 

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Originally posted by: Matt1970
It was $99 with free shipping.

Cool, I was surprised that in many websites it still selling for more than $1,000. Let us know about your overclocking and 3Dmark05 results, me and apoppin already posted the results here.
 

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I also bought one of the $99 3.4EE's from NewEgg to upgrade the 3.0C in my Shuttle SB75G2. It should be delivered on Wednesday. I just checked and they currently show out of stock.
 

Matt1970

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Ya, I came in this morning and saw them out of stock. PriceWatch still shows one place that has them for $105.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: evolucion8
Yeah, many games now runs smoother, no more hiccups like before when some games strained the CPU with lots of codes (Half Life 2 anyone), same heat output and better overclockability. The Northwood CPU performance was almost on par with the performance requirements for the X800XT PE GPU, now I'm GPU bound. This motherboard has a feature that you can increase the RAM speed without increasing the FSB speed, it can go as high as 533MHz, that's why I want a PC4000 RAM. Also once I overclock the FSB, the RAM bandwith will not be a bottleneck and not have to require to use 5:4 ratios and that stuff, I want 1:1. But not sure if is better to choose 4x512MB RAM's or 2x1GB which will increase the timings due to the larger density RAM modules.
that probably depends on your MB ... i *guess* you want 2x1GB

and i guess you gotta upgrade your Video card, huh?
which one? x1950p or x1950xt?
:D

someone correct me as i am also looking for 2x1GB for my Abit IC7 ... when prices drop ... but only PC 3500 or something that does 223FSB is fine
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Originally posted by: Matt1970
Hey Guys and Gals. New Poster here. I stumbled across this forum after googling 3/4EE overclocking. I am a long time Overclocker from way back. My first was a 166MMX that I would run at 200MHz. My next adventure was a PII 333 that was supposed to be multiplier locked, but after scraping off the Bus Indentifier pin I could run that at either 400 or 450 w/100 bus. Next was my 900MHz Celeron that would run at 1.2GHz. I held on to that for the longest time. A couple years ago I did some homework and ended up with the 2.4C wich runs good at 3.3 and would sometimes lock up at 3.4 but I was running the stock cooler. I also had a 9800SE which softmoded and basicly turned it into a 9800PRO but since have upgraded to a 6800GT.

Friday I got one of the last 3.4EE 478's off NewEgg being that it is basicly the fastest socket 478 processor and seeing some of the people getting 3.7-3.8 clock speeds and the 2M L3 Cache which I hope will be here mid week. I also got a ZALMAN CNPS7000B and they are going into my Albatron board. I figure $100 minus what I will be able to sell my 2.4C for, this was a good upgrade and saves me from having to get a new Board/Chip/Mem. I will post some benchmarks when I get it up and running.

Matt

well then welcome ... i am not 'regular' here; i 'live' in Video and Games forums [Hot Deals, of course] ... the guys here are quite knowledgable and generally polite :)
--unless you 'knock' their chosen brand of CPU
:Q

you got yours even cheaper ... i guess intel found a few EE crates that Gordon Freeman hadn't broken up yet :p

i have been *planning* this upgrade for 3 whole years [i used to bug the guys here about upgrading my 2.80c @ 3.31 since '04 ... and generally found because of price it wasn't 'worth it'

when it came into my range ... less than $100 for an upgrade [including HSF] i *jumped* on it and i have been glad to positively influence some other enthusiasts upgrades for the better

let us know how yours performs, please

 

happy medium

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Alright I'm convinced. I tried to hold out but I'm getting one. 99 bucks shipped is just too tempting. Apoppin please let me know what ram you get and how it performs since we have the same motherboard. :thumbsup: I like the power supply you got to. Looks like I'm going the same route. Now bring on the AGP x1950xt. :beer:. I'll upgrade to quad core for christmas. Thanks
 

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Originally posted by: happy medium
Alright I'm convinced. I tried to hold out but I'm getting one. 99 bucks shipped is just too tempting. Apoppin please let me know what ram you get and how it performs since we have the same motherboard. :thumbsup: I like the power supply you got to. Looks like I'm going the same route. Now bring on the AGP x1950xt. :beer:. I'll upgrade to quad core for christmas. Thanks

i might be *awhile* on the RAM ... although price IS dropping ... there are very few games that really require it ...
i am looking for a really good price on PC3500 ... i might even go 2x512 to replace x256 for a total of 1.5GB as a working compromise

[cheap] price is the main criteria for me ... as i believe "ordinary" PC3500 will do 222 ... my current stuff isn't the best .... 2x256 Mushkin 2.5:3:3:7 and 2x256 OCZ 2.5:3:3:6 and makes it completely stable ... after 223 it gets flakey.

But that is all i need for this P4. :)

and of course post your results
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
latest 3/19 ... tops out at 3.74Ghz ... FSB is 222 1:1 ... nice performance increase over my 2.80c at 3.31Ghz ... a *keeper* :)
dude, its been like 3 years ~ is this all youve got to show for it? :p ;)
 

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I will aim for the XT version, cause the PRO version doesn't provide two fold performance increase in all games, barely between 20 and 50% which is nice, but not enough for my tastes, the XT will easily provides more than that, between 50, 80% and sometimes even more. Let's see if that card is released here, I saw it on a Russian Store.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: apoppin
latest 3/19 ... tops out at 3.74Ghz ... FSB is 222 1:1 ... nice performance increase over my 2.80c at 3.31Ghz ... a *keeper* :)
dude, its been like 3 years ~ is this all youve got to show for it? :p ;)

i am not sure what you mean ... up-till-now, i haven't spent *any* money on it .. 'cept video cards!?!?
:confused:

yeah i got "money " to show for it ... i saved money money money by NOT upgrading
... letsee, landscaped my huge yard ... remodeling my house. ... buying a new car ... i have superb credit now ... and that's just on the money i saved from NOT doing CPU upgrades
:thumbsup:


... coming from someone who changes his CPU as often as his socks :p

:D

*all* i have to show after over 3 long years is STILL a midrange rig that can play any game i want to my satisfaction ...

:cookie:


. . . and i believe you were giving me advice on my *same* rig in way back in early '04 regarding my "plan" to upgrade my 2.80c to a 3.4c
:Q

that's 'all'
:beer:

and ... 'lord, keep me from buying a x1950xt in AGP ...'

after all, it's 'only' offered in 256MB vRAM versions ...
:roll:
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
*all* i have to show after over 3 long years is STILL a midrange rig that can play any game i want to my satisfaction ...

:cookie:
heh, you dont have to preach to me, my rig is older than yours :p

i cant believe mine still runs, let alone OCs :Q
 

happy medium

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: apoppin
latest 3/19 ... tops out at 3.74Ghz ... FSB is 222 1:1 ... nice performance increase over my 2.80c at 3.31Ghz ... a *keeper* :)
dude, its been like 3 years ~ is this all youve got to show for it? :p ;)

i am not sure what you mean ... up-till-now, i haven't spent *any* money on it .. 'cept video cards!?!?
:confused:

yeah i got "money " to show for it ... i saved money money money by NOT upgrading
... letsee, landscaped my huge yard ... remodeling my house. ... buying a new car ... i have superb credit now ... and that's just on the money i saved from NOT doing CPU upgrades
:thumbsup:


... coming from someone who changes his CPU as often as his socks :p

:D

*all* i have to show after over 3 long years is STILL a midrange rig that can play any game i want to my satisfaction ...

:cookie:


. . . and i believe you were giving me advice on my *same* rig in way back in early '04 regarding my "plan" to upgrade my 2.80c to a 3.4c
:Q

that's 'all'
:beer:

and ... 'lord, keep me from buying a x1950xt in AGP ...'

after all, it's 'only' offered in 256MB vRAM versions ...
:roll:

Looks like it runs about 316.00$ dollars in germany

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en...%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial%26sa%3DG
 

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Originally posted by: happy medium
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: apoppin
latest 3/19 ... tops out at 3.74Ghz ... FSB is 222 1:1 ... nice performance increase over my 2.80c at 3.31Ghz ... a *keeper* :)
dude, its been like 3 years ~ is this all youve got to show for it? :p ;)

i am not sure what you mean ... up-till-now, i haven't spent *any* money on it .. 'cept video cards!?!?
:confused:

yeah i got "money " to show for it ... i saved money money money by NOT upgrading
... letsee, landscaped my huge yard ... remodeling my house. ... buying a new car ... i have superb credit now ... and that's just on the money i saved from NOT doing CPU upgrades
:thumbsup:


... coming from someone who changes his CPU as often as his socks :p

:D

*all* i have to show after over 3 long years is STILL a midrange rig that can play any game i want to my satisfaction ...

:cookie:


. . . and i believe you were giving me advice on my *same* rig in way back in early '04 regarding my "plan" to upgrade my 2.80c to a 3.4c
:Q

that's 'all'
:beer:

and ... 'lord, keep me from buying a x1950xt in AGP ...'

after all, it's 'only' offered in 256MB vRAM versions ...
:roll:

Looks like it runs about 316.00$ dollars in germany

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en...%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial%26sa%3DG

Nice thing and nice price!! I want one!! Having 256MB of RAM doesn't mean that is not able to outperform the X1950PRO 512MB. Look at the X800XL 512MB vs X800XT case. After all, even on high resolutions, the X1950PRO tends to be more GPU bound than RAM bound, and the extra RAM doesn't provide that performance boost needed. After all a smart buyer is not gonna buy a X1950PRO or a X1950XT 256MB to play at 2048x1536 or 1600x1200 and 6xFSAA.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: apoppin
*all* i have to show after over 3 long years is STILL a midrange rig that can play any game i want to my satisfaction ...

:cookie:
heh, you dont have to preach to me, my rig is older than yours :p

i cant believe mine still runs, let alone OCs :Q

you must have recently cleaned out your rig's dust bunnies
:D

i *remember* you just about wrote the book on OC'ing the NWb's and went thru quite a few CPUs to get the *perfect* one
2.26B @ 3.5ghz (def vcore)
Abit IC7-G @ 206fsb SR-A-A-A-E
1gb Kingston HyperX 3000 @ 412ddr c2722
so is *that all* ... after nearly four years? ~ is this all youve got to show for it?

:D

nice ;)

what video card are you running? and what do you think of the EE for $99 ... the 'culmination' of my original plan ... back in Jan '04?

edit:

Guys, i am kidding about the x1950xt being *only* 256MB vRAM ... although it is strange they do not offer it
fortunately they do not ... and ... only a 512MB version would *tempt* me to upgrade my x1950p/512M
... or an 8800gts in AGP
:cookie: