P4 3.6GHz "Prescott" cooling issues

[CharlieR]

:disgust:Upon deciding to build a new system I chose the ASUS P5AD2 Premium, along with Corsair DDR2 XMS2, an Enermax 600W "Noisetaker" power supply, and a P4 775 560 "Prescott" processor. I've not been able to install XP Pro because the system shuts down due to overheating during the install - the system idles at 65 degrees C. Following Intel's advice, I purchased a new case and the problem persists. Intel is now shipping me a new P4. After removing the questionable processor, upon close examination of the motherboard, I found a pin missing in the ASUS motherboards? processor socket. ASUS tech support reviewed my situation and stated it was not anything I'd done and suggested I go back to the vendor I'd bought it from since it was still in the first 30 days following the purchase. AJUMP.COM REFUSED TO EXCHANGE THE BOARD STATING I HAD DAMAGED IT.

As for as the board goes - I believe it to be a great choice offering the best in expansion capabilities. I took months deciding upon my components. I've found ASUS tech support to be excellent. Corsair was also excellent in helping me with the correct settings for their memory.

AVOID AJUMP.COM - THEY WILL IGNORE YOU IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND LEAVE YOU WITH DAMAGED GOODS!

 

[Soulkeeper]

that sucks, good luck with that

 

[whorush]

the 3.6 sucks over 100 watts. thats a lot. try amd next time.

best of luck.

 

[kmmatney]

That sucks. It also sucks spending an extra $205 for an extra 200 MHz.

P4 560 - $514
P4 550 - $309

Thats a 66.3% cost increase for a 5.8% increase in clock speed. You'd be better off spending that kind of difference on a better video card.

You should still be able to RMA the board with ASUS directly. Just tell them you purchased it 31 days ago...

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: whorush
the 3.6 sucks over 100 watts. thats a lot. try amd next time.

best of luck.

Are you attempting to trigger an AMD vs. Intel debate? Comments like yours are getting VERY old on Anandtech.

 

[AristoV300]

Originally posted by: CharlieR
:disgust:Upon deciding to build a new system I chose the ASUS P5AD2 Premium, along with Corsair DDR2 XMS2, an Enermax 600W "Noisetaker" power supply, and a P4 775 560 "Prescott" processor. I've not been able to install XP Pro because the system shuts down due to overheating during the install - the system idles at 65 degrees C. Following Intel's advice, I purchased a new case and the problem persists. Intel is now shipping me a new P4. After removing the questionable processor, upon close examination of the motherboard, I found a pin missing in the ASUS motherboards? processor socket. ASUS tech support reviewed my situation and stated it was not anything I'd done and suggested I go back to the vendor I'd bought it from since it was still in the first 30 days following the purchase. AJUMP.COM REFUSED TO EXCHANGE THE BOARD STATING I HAD DAMAGED IT.

As for as the board goes - I believe it to be a great choice offering the best in expansion capabilities. I took months deciding upon my components. I've found ASUS tech support to be excellent. Corsair was also excellent in helping me with the correct settings for their memory.

AVOID AJUMP.COM - THEY WILL IGNORE YOU IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND LEAVE YOU WITH DAMAGED GOODS!

I had the same situation with my vendor not accepting the board. Just tell Asus and they will RMA is for you. They just prefer first that you try to clear it with whom you bought it from. The board should have a 3 year warranty.

 

[whorush]

AdamK47 3DS, just pointing out his error so that he could learn from his mistake.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS

Originally posted by: whorush
the 3.6 sucks over 100 watts. thats a lot. try amd next time.

best of luck.

Are you attempting to trigger an AMD vs. Intel debate? Comments like yours are getting VERY old on Anandtech.

Well, I tell you what, I am sick of hearing about how hot the Prescott is, and how it doesn't perform like people who bought expect.

 

[LTC8K6]

Most people have no problem with their Prescotts.

 

[dug777]

dear me, that prat whorush is hijacking someones intel thread...only 30 odd posts and thats the second time i've seen him do that, as i said last time, actually f#*k it, read what i said last time

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...y&keyword1=whorush

Just grow the f#*k up and stop it

Sorry for the little outburst folks- it just really, really sh*ts me- bad luck with the board problems m8

 

[whorush]

dug777, the guy got a chip that puts out 115 watts. he got a 600 watt PSU!! don't you think thats nuts?!

http://processorfinder.intel.c...s/list.asp?ProcFam=483

its overheating. do you think thats a coincidence? sure maybe his chip was a bad apple, maybe he's doing something wrong. but i have no doubt that what he did was a mistake. he should have gotten an A64. they cost less, run cooler, block some viruses, preform better, and are 64 bit.

dude, the name of this forum is "CPU/Processors and Overclocking" and you're giving me a hard time for talking about processors. why don't you give it a try?

 

[Intelman34]

Are you sure the heatsink is mounting properly?

My 3.4ghz 775 Prescott clocked at 3.85ghz never goes above 58C under 100% load (Prime95 and Folding@Home test for 24hrs). Try scraping off the Intel goo on their heatsink and use AS5. That dropped my temps a bit. I am using the stock cooler.

Heck, I'm happy with how my Prescott performs. I don't care how hot it is as long as it is 100% stable (which it is). I'm going to be putting together an Athlon64 system tomorrow so I will see what I like better.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: whorush
dug777, the guy got a chip that puts out 115 watts. he got a 600 watt PSU!! don't you think thats nuts?!

http://processorfinder.intel.c...s/list.asp?ProcFam=483

its overheating. do you think thats a coincidence? sure maybe his chip was a bad apple, maybe he's doing something wrong. but i have no doubt that what he did was a mistake. he should have gotten an A64. they cost less, run cooler, block some viruses, preform better, and are 64 bit.

dude, the name of this forum is "CPU/Processors and Overclocking" and you're giving me a hard time for talking about processors. why don't you give it a try?

No it puts out 150W!

What do you think they have that big copper high rpm monster on there for?

http://www.cpuheat.wz.cz/html/IntelPowerConsumption.htm

 

[Zebo]

AJUMP.COM REFUSED TO EXCHANGE THE BOARD STATING I HAD DAMAGED IT.

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Chargeback that whole order and get something from newegg. Perferably a Northwood 3.4, Abit IC7, and regular DDR if you want to stay Intel. Waaaaay Less money, Faster, cooler, stabler, better resale.

 

[dug777]

mr. whorush, i dont care how hot his CPU runs/how many watts it consumes, all i am saying is that he obviously doesn't want someone telling him 2 buy amd AFTER he's bought intel- seriously, i am sure that he can read himself- and in the forum he cant miss the fact that A64's 0wn the p4's for gaming especially, but he's having a biatch about the shiat retail support he received, he doesnt want some amd fanboy crashing his thread and screaming 'hahaha your p4 sux0rs, get an amd.....', which correct me if i'm wrong, is EXACTLY what you did

 

[boshuter]

This really sucks......... the guy asks for help and all he gets is a bunch of people telling him he didn't buy what they wanted him to buy........... WTF is wrong with you people??? I can see the "newb" doing that, but lifers?

Maybe he has done a lot of research and read all the posts by the amd fanboys..... that probably made him realize that if he did buy AMD he would be lumped in with all of them.

 

[lethologica]

Just down clock your CPU for installation. I have the P5AD2 Premium or what ever the model number is. My processor is 3.00 and I can get ti to run at exactly half of that. After installation jack it back up. And disable all the AI stuff until installation is over too.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

not a big surprise, they only have a 7.5 out of 10 rating in the last 6 months at reseller ratings. looks like your stuck with a motherboard paperweight, better luck next time. (you might try getting ahold of the mobo's manufacturer, they will often do a direct rma if your vender refuses.)

 

[THUGSROOK]

first of all ~ Prescott was a seriously bad buying decision.
no one on this forum (with a brain) would recommend them.

second, RMA the damn board to Asus.
when you get it back ~ sell it.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
first of all ~ Prescott was a seriously bad buying decision.
no one on this forum (with a brain) would recommend them.

second, RMA the damn board to Asus.
when you get it back ~ sell it.

and then thugs does the same damn thing.

weee.

 

[lethologica]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
first of all ~ Prescott was a seriously bad buying decision.
no one on this forum (with a brain) would recommend them.

second, RMA the damn board to Asus.
when you get it back ~ sell it.

I've got a prescott and it satisfies all of my needs. I would highly recommend it unless you already had a northwood. The motherboard is a great one too, I love it. Three fricken LAN ports, one of which is wireless. If I didn?t already have a router, this thing would be it. ASUS always has the best motherboards for Intel or AMD. Microsoft put in their code to reboot the machine if it is too hot during installation. That is the problem with hard coding thresholds. Any CS course will tell you to avoid thresholds like the plague. A simple down clock for installation will allow him to install windows and then have a fully functional machine. I am sure some AMDs could potentially have the same problem. This is more a problem with pushing the limits of the current x86 architecture. The only way to get more power while still being compatible is to give the CPU more power which produces more heat.

 

[whorush]

boshuter, he's not asking for help. he's just sharing his sh$%ty experience with us. its completely appropriate to suggest another alternative that would have been better. thats how people learn. i wished him good luck, but that alone is worthless.

btw, i cant figure out why he got a 600W PSU?

still, its likely that his problem is not entirely the chip, its likely that he put the heat sink on wrong, or that there is 2 much thermal greese or 2 little, or something. 65C idle is too much even for that toaster oven.