P4 3.06 retail HT cpu's in stock now...

fkloster

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Right here. Very pricey but still impressive to see in the hands of resellers already on November 5th.
 

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So what's a good motherboard for this? I've heard of an Asus A7X (or something like that). Do any of them out now support hyperthreading? Or isn't that motherboard dependent? Sorry, I'm mostly an AMD user so I'm trying to catch up.
 

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Many if not all P4 motherboards are HT ready with a bios update a.k.a. Asus P4T-533C bios version 1008 enables HT cpu's...
 

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$690.00 ?
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Originally posted by: PliotronX
Originally posted by: bacillus
Originally posted by: Need4Speed
$690.00 ?
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the latest always costs an arm & a leg!
Nonsense, this CPU is approximately the cost of one shin.

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Thank God I have a steady job and haven't yet to sell my body parts ;) That does not imply that I'm running outside to buy the P4 3.06Ghz CPU
 

ElFenix

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sell off a kidney and you could afford quite a few of these
 

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Are there any reliable published sources showing any benefits to hyperthreading? I believe I remember an Anandtech server article a while back showing some benefits for server applications, but I'm wondering if any "normal" software will benefit.

 

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Originally posted by: Hulk
Are there any reliable published sources showing any benefits to hyperthreading? I believe I remember an Anandtech server article a while back showing some benefits for server applications, but I'm wondering if any "normal" software will benefit.
All the hyperthreading reviews I've seen were done months ago when the hyperthreading Xeons were released. Back then there were no software optimized for hyperthreading - and the results were either 20% worse, the same, or 20% better. According to Intel they have optimized hyperthreading itself, optomized compilers to use it, and encouraged software makers to code with hyperthreading in mind. But I've yet to see any new reviews with all these things considered. I think everyone is waiting until the mid November official launch. At that time, I bet we will see nearly every major site with a new hyperthreading review. Just wait another week.
 

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So step and buy a dozen. The fact is that no one here will buy one.

Intel will discount them out to it's favor customers like Dell.

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RE:"All the hyperthreading reviews I've seen were done months ago when the hyperthreading Xeons were released. Back then there were no software optimized for hyperthreading - and the results were either 20% worse, the same, or 20% better. According to Intel they have optimized hyperthreading itself, optomized compilers to use it, and encouraged software makers to code with hyperthreading in mind. But I've yet to see any new reviews with all these things considered. I think everyone is waiting until the mid November official launch. At that time, I bet we will see nearly every major site with a new hyperthreading review. Just wait another week."


Intel will provide some benches. Sandra already happens to make HT look good.
The real truth is that software for HT will be scarce and troublesome.
HT will be a marketing boom for Intel and another stake in the heart of AMDs pathetic marketing.

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dullard

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Originally posted by: Macro2
The real truth is that software for HT will be scarce and troublesome.
HT will be a marketing boom for Intel and another stake in the heart of AMDs pathetic marketing.
We will find out shortly. There are two possibilities:
1) Intel is wrong about all its hyperthreading changes since the last reviews - many programs still get a 20% speed slowdown. Enthusiasts would mostly turn hyperthreading off to avoid this. Major OEMs (like Dell) already have it turned off for their workstations so they will keep it off by default for their home computers as well. Hyperthreading sits on the back-burner: ready for a program that really benefits, but rarely used. This will not be marketed much, since few users will get any benefit.

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2) Intel is correct about its hyperthreading changes - eliminating any significant performance losses (even on software that isn't made for hyperthreading). It will then either give no change or a speed boost. Enthusiasts and major OEM's alike will enable hyperthreading since it can't harm and it sometimes does good. Intel will market it intensely - with good reason. AMD suffers of course since they lose a lot of their IPC advantage.

I won't comment on what will happen - I'm waiting for the reviews.
 

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Shouldn't this thread be locked and put into the "Hot Deals" category?
$690, I mean, what a deal! lol
 

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still a lot cheaper than 1 Ghz PIII's and Athlon's costed when they came out

if you want the best you gotta pay for it
 

formulav8

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That price is the reason I will never give Intel any of my HARD Earned money.
 

Ausm

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I am going to score a P4 2.0A gig with C1 stepping and will be able to O\c to 3 gig with no prob

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ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Macro2
Shouldn't this thread be locked and put into the "Hot Deals" category?
$690, I mean, what a deal! lol

the only thing hot is the 70 watts this thing puts out
 

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Originally posted by: rudder
My 1.8ghz cpu seems so slow now.

OC it! :D I got my 1.8A up to around 2.52 with the option of going to 2.65, possibly higher if my motherboard wasn't as weird as it is..
 

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It wasn't that long ago that high-end intel processor sold for close to a grand. I remember paying $600 for a Pentium 3 650MHz.
 

Macro2

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You can buy about 10 Athlon XP 1700+s for the same price. If you get the T-bred model it will overclock to 2200+ no problem.

For 95% of the people, you won't see a difference in speed. Of the 5%, 90% of them can't afford this chip.

The big benefit here is that Intel gets to price it's chips off this chip and make better margins than AMD.


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