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Originally posted by: SexyK
Well, I can't vouch for Computerclubhouse or whatever, but lots of reputable places had the 2.6C and 2.8C in stock last time i checked.

I agree. I can't and am not vouching either. If I were to be like the others this is where I would stick an insult for a non-insultive comment.

Have a good night.
 
Originally posted by: scotoma
Originally posted by: SexyK
Well, I can't vouch for Computerclubhouse or whatever, but lots of reputable places had the 2.6C and 2.8C in stock last time i checked.

I agree. I can't and am not vouching either. If I were to be like the others this is where I would stick an insult for a non-insultive comment.

Have a good night.

man, it was so fun to be eleven years old. *sigh* i miss those days.
 
Originally posted by: scotoma

Second. Your right. If an unscientific ratings site has a ton of people (i.e., N=1000+) all saying the same thing it may influence my decision. But also keep in mind that to even begin to draw conclusions based on a scientific population you need an N of 30 at min. 8 people have rated computerclubhouse. And what is sad is if you believe the ratings based on that information. Many good small businesses can be ruined by in accurate anecdotes and idiots who cannot distinguish fact from fiction.

fallacy.

Originally posted by: scotoma
Originally posted by: boyRacer
Originally posted by: EdipisReks
btw, scrotuma, Lord Evermore isn't the one who is the ass here.

I second that. 😛 😉

follower. do you know how to constructively think for yourself?

fallacy.
 
Oh yeah. I certainly thought that the original "thanks" was well-intended and sincere. Didn't everybody else?

I did answer the question, and pointed out that the information was readily available. Can't say I'm sorry if you thought it was rude. After that, you pointed out that there was a site selling them, after having said you were going to buy one. The obvious inference is you're going to buy it from there and just wanted to verify it first. People pointed out the rating of that company, and the fact that Intel hasn't released the processor yet, and that major dealers aren't stocking it yet. Yes, some places were shipping or at least listed 3GHz P4's before Intel officially announced them, during the delay period while they fixed their glitch, but guess what: if you bought one of those, you bought it despite not even being able to be sure that the thing was going to work properly (and no, I'm not presuming YOU bought one since you're getting a 2.8, it's a collective you). You also may not have heard about the rather common practice of shady sites of listing items they don't have in stock as being in stock, then charging your credit card before they ship and giving you the runaround.

People tried to recommend avoiding something that might get you burned, and you disagreed. It should have ended there, really. But you had to pick apart my post, so I'll explain it.

Just because something is not an absolutely reliable source for information to be used on its own does not mean that it can't be used to get a general idea of what the reseller is like, and can be used along with other information. A medium to medium high rating isn't necessarily something to assume that they're definitely a place you wouldn't want to go to. If there aren't any other warning signs then it'd probably be safe to try them. But the site you pointed to is in the bottom third of ratings, is listing a product that hasn't been announced yet, and isn't known by anyone here. To us, that means caution is advised.

If you look at the actual ratings, the ONLY thing keeping them even as high as a 2.50 is the prices. Every other score was below 3, with most of them being 0. Out of 8 comments, 2 were very satisfied, and 6 were very dissatisfied. No middle ground there, so you either get them at a time they do good, or you get absolutely screwed.
 
Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
Oh yeah. I certainly thought that the original "thanks" was well-intended and sincere. Didn't everybody else?

I did answer the question, and pointed out that the information was readily available. Can't say I'm sorry if you thought it was rude. After that, you pointed out that there was a site selling them, after having said you were going to buy one. The obvious inference is you're going to buy it from there and just wanted to verify it first. People pointed out the rating of that company, and the fact that Intel hasn't released the processor yet, and that major dealers aren't stocking it yet. Yes, some places were shipping or at least listed 3GHz P4's before Intel officially announced them, during the delay period while they fixed their glitch, but guess what: if you bought one of those, you bought it despite not even being able to be sure that the thing was going to work properly (and no, I'm not presuming YOU bought one since you're getting a 2.8, it's a collective you). You also may not have heard about the rather common practice of shady sites of listing items they don't have in stock as being in stock, then charging your credit card before they ship and giving you the runaround.

People tried to recommend avoiding something that might get you burned, and you disagreed. It should have ended there, really. But you had to pick apart my post, so I'll explain it.

Just because something is not an absolutely reliable source for information to be used on its own does not mean that it can't be used to get a general idea of what the reseller is like, and can be used along with other information. A medium to medium high rating isn't necessarily something to assume that they're definitely a place you wouldn't want to go to. If there aren't any other warning signs then it'd probably be safe to try them. But the site you pointed to is in the bottom third of ratings, is listing a product that hasn't been announced yet, and isn't known by anyone here. To us, that means caution is advised.

If you look at the actual ratings, the ONLY thing keeping them even as high as a 2.50 is the prices. Every other score was below 3, with most of them being 0. Out of 8 comments, 2 were very satisfied, and 6 were very dissatisfied. No middle ground there, so you either get them at a time they do good, or you get absolutely screwed.

Stop being such an ass. "Yes. Kind of like the 90 billion reviews of 800MHz bus P4's mentioned." What kind of informative response is that? The Yes, maybe, but the second part of that statement was unnecessary. IMO, resellerratings is only worth anything if alot of people rated them. You can't go by what 8 people said, for all we know they were all morons. Yeah, it's nice you're trying to stop him from getting 'burned', but let him learn his own lesson. There are only a few trusty online sellers these days, they're hard to come by. Evermore, IMO you deserved that reaction you got from scotoma, all because you wanted to be mr. ass.

Bill
 
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