Undecided as to which system I should go for. I wll not be OC'ing. This system will be primarily gaming and digital imaging. Also, which chipset would be best suited for P4? 845E or 845G?
P4 2.26 533 or xp 2100
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Definitely get a P4 if you're gonna OC. You might get a 100MHz OC with an XP 2100, you could likely get a 5-600MHz OC on a P4 2.26. But what I would do is save some some $$ and buy a 1.6A. If you get a recent one you stand a very good chance of OC'ing it to 2.4 and a 2.1-2.2 OC is nearly guaranteed. In fact, several people have gotten their 1.6As to 2.7-2.8 with recent chips. I even heard about one or two guys that got to nearly 3GHz with their 1.6As with stock cooling!
That is pretty much a dead heat between the two for performance...so look at these 2 other things...
1) cost.....the athlon 2100+ xp will cost about 80 bucks less
2) heat and the noise that may come with trying to cool it....That advantage goes to INtel but since you wont be ocing the temps should be higher with the athlon but fine. Also the stock hsf for athlon likley will be several times louder. Likely with any athlon machine with other components you will need additional case cooling.
I could live with a little noise. I don't sleep in the room with my pc. It is in my office downstairs. I also live in a generally moderate climate of pacific northwest. So heat would be moot point...
So in my case I would save the cash and get the athlon.
NOw if you oc'd...I would say save an additional 40 dollars and get a 1.6a northwood and oc it to 2.66ghz (166fsb) like me. No current athlon xp available I think could compete even with their ocing figured in, ofcourse unless you get a magical T-bred like amdmb.com
1) cost.....the athlon 2100+ xp will cost about 80 bucks less
2) heat and the noise that may come with trying to cool it....That advantage goes to INtel but since you wont be ocing the temps should be higher with the athlon but fine. Also the stock hsf for athlon likley will be several times louder. Likely with any athlon machine with other components you will need additional case cooling.
I could live with a little noise. I don't sleep in the room with my pc. It is in my office downstairs. I also live in a generally moderate climate of pacific northwest. So heat would be moot point...
So in my case I would save the cash and get the athlon.
NOw if you oc'd...I would say save an additional 40 dollars and get a 1.6a northwood and oc it to 2.66ghz (166fsb) like me. No current athlon xp available I think could compete even with their ocing figured in, ofcourse unless you get a magical T-bred like amdmb.com
Hmmmm...Sandra benchmarks??? Funny how real world doesn't think so....Read reviews a 2100+ xp has same performance as a p4 2.2
Q]Funny how real world doesn't think so....Read reviews a 2100+ xp has same performance as a p4 2.2 [/quote]
funny how you dont ready very well.....my 2100 is over clocked to 1.9...NOT stock at 1.7
funny how you dont ready very well.....my 2100 is over clocked to 1.9...NOT stock at 1.7
funny how you dont ready very well.....my 2100 is over clocked to 1.9...NOT stock at 1.7[/quote]
Can i see benchies? Im not being an ass .... just wana see them .... you mean yours is equal to a 2.53GHz?
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Yeah, but can it equal my 2.75GHz P4 and PC1160 RDRAM? LOL, that will be the day... Don't talk about your overclocked Athlon XP vs. a stock P4...that's not a fair fight. And I doubt that it beats the 2.53GHz P4 very often in the real world. Besides, overclocking is irrelevant in this thread, since he already said he isn't going to be doing any...
I think the best choice would be the P4, since they have a better long term future than the Athlon. AMD will not be producing any more high-performance parts for the Socket A platform. Intel, meanwhile, will stick with socket 478 until Prescott (.09um P4) debuts. Also, as time goes on, more and more applications will take advantage of SSE2, so you will see the P4 have performance increases as these optimized applications come out.
Not to mention that the P4 is WAY quiter and cooler...
LOL, that will be the day... Don't talk about your overclocked Athlon XP vs. a stock P4...that's not a fair fight. And I doubt that it beats the 2.53GHz P4 very often in the real world. Besides, overclocking is irrelevant in this thread, since he already said he isn't going to be doing any...I think the best choice would be the P4, since they have a better long term future than the Athlon. AMD will not be producing any more high-performance parts for the Socket A platform. Intel, meanwhile, will stick with socket 478 until Prescott (.09um P4) debuts. Also, as time goes on, more and more applications will take advantage of SSE2, so you will see the P4 have performance increases as these optimized applications come out.
Not to mention that the P4 is WAY quiter and cooler...
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i would rather AMD anyday......sorry that a 1.9 can keep up with your 2.4/2.5....... you can stuff your oc'd 1.6 up your ass =P
Not overclocking, no contest to AMD. Intel "sticking with" the 478 doesn't matter since I doubt you would want to run any future 478 CPUs with a current board in any case (can anyone say Athlon XP on a KT133A board?) Unless money is no object, if you don't overclock your Intel chip, AMD is a much better value. Sure an Intel chip will require less cooling, but I don't think it's worth as much as you'd have to put into it.
Just so you don't think I'm an anti-Intel zealot, my next system will probably by Intel, but I plan on overclocking. Even given how nice the P4 is, it's too expensive if you don't OC. JMHO of course
Just so you don't think I'm an anti-Intel zealot, my next system will probably by Intel, but I plan on overclocking. Even given how nice the P4 is, it's too expensive if you don't OC. JMHO of course
I know it's a tough decision to make. I've been going between AXP and P4 over the last year and half. Since I'm an overclocker I try to run the best overclock friendly cpu with the matching stability.
At first P4-1.6A was the best choice for me like many others, but over a period the system started to become unstable (random lockups), even after many clean WinXP reinstall. I'm sure there are many people out there running their o/ced P4-1.6A rock stable, but I'm yet to figure out what's wrong with my P4 system.
Now I'm running AXP2000+ o/ced to 2100+ (9.5x182) without the random lockups. Also, I can "feel" WinXP boots faster and programs run smoother with AXP. The only differences are the mobo and cpu from the system.
Since you said you'll be running some games and digital imaging softwares, go with P4 if the softwares you have take advantage of SSE2. If they are not SSE2 optimized then AXP is a lot faster than P4 since AXP has much superior FPU.
At first P4-1.6A was the best choice for me like many others, but over a period the system started to become unstable (random lockups), even after many clean WinXP reinstall. I'm sure there are many people out there running their o/ced P4-1.6A rock stable, but I'm yet to figure out what's wrong with my P4 system.
Now I'm running AXP2000+ o/ced to 2100+ (9.5x182) without the random lockups. Also, I can "feel" WinXP boots faster and programs run smoother with AXP. The only differences are the mobo and cpu from the system.
Since you said you'll be running some games and digital imaging softwares, go with P4 if the softwares you have take advantage of SSE2. If they are not SSE2 optimized then AXP is a lot faster than P4 since AXP has much superior FPU.
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