P31 Chipset?

Slaimus

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What is the difference between the P31 and P35 chipsets? The main difference in specs seems to be that P31 has DDR3 support disabled, which should not be a problem since most P35 boards do not even use DDR3.

Is it FSB crippled or something?

Example:
Gigabyte P31 Board
 

ViRGE

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I'm not sure what the overall difference is, but at least for that specific board it's paired with the much older ICH7 southbridge.
 

Slaimus

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ICH7 is not really that bad. At least it has native a IDE port, which is much better than the JMicron addon chips used with ICH8/9.
 

Slaimus

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After some reading, I have figured out that the P31 is an updated P965. The P31 is pin-compatible, and is designed to drop in to existing P965 designs. It also costs less than the P965.

OEMs are making it even more cheaper by using the ICH7 instead of the ICH8.
 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: Slaimus
After some reading, I have figured out that the P31 is an updated P965. The P31 is pin-compatible, and is designed to drop in to existing P965 designs. It also costs less than the P965.

OEMs are making it even more cheaper by using the ICH7 instead of the ICH8.

Does the p31 suffer from the same boot problems the p965 had?
 

hans007

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p31 and g31, are basically the 946gz with 1333 bus support and a die shrink (p31 has graphics disabled, and they both use about 10 watts less power than 946gz) and ddr2-800 support.


oddly the chipset page on intel's site says it only does 1066 bus. but if you look at intel branded boards like the dg31pr it says it officially supports 1333 bus.

it was the same with the 946gz , it said chipset support 800mhz, but all the intel branded retail boards supported 1066bus (i happen to have both an intel g31 and 946gz retail board at home).


performance wise the p31 should be just as fast as 965 or p35 chipsets. they boards using them are not really enthusiast boards so they dont really o/c all that well. i guess the other drawbacks if you need them are, p31 boards only have 2 dimms, and ich7 can only have 4 sata instead of 6. unless you are a huge power user, i dont think its a big deal since you can still get 4gb of ram with 2 dimms and 4 sata is probably enough for 99.8% of people.
 

eplebnista

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Thanks hans007! I was looking at the gigabyte cause of the solid caps, although I will have to add a pci ide card to it to support an existing pata hdd and dvd burner.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: eplebnista
Thanks hans007! I was looking at the gigabyte cause of the solid caps, although I will have to add a pci ide card to it to support an existing pata hdd and dvd burner.

it comes with one ide channel.
 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: eplebnista
Thanks hans007! I was looking at the gigabyte cause of the solid caps, although I will have to add a pci ide card to it to support an existing pata hdd and dvd burner.

it comes with one ide channel.

I was planning on using that one for the DVD Burner and the pci ide card for the hdd (I like to use one drive per pata connector).
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: eplebnista
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: eplebnista
Thanks hans007! I was looking at the gigabyte cause of the solid caps, although I will have to add a pci ide card to it to support an existing pata hdd and dvd burner.

it comes with one ide channel.

I was planning on using that one for the DVD Burner and the pci ide card for the hdd (I like to use one drive per pata connector).

a less expensive solution might be a sata to ide bridge board.
 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: eplebnista

I was planning on using that one for the DVD Burner and the pci ide card for the hdd (I like to use one drive per pata connector).

a less expensive solution might be a sata to ide bridge board.

This build is for a relative and I researched those a while back. I read a lot of reviews stating that those adapters tended to die a lot, often with no warning.