p3 and a p2b

infiniD

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the p2b has been the foundation of my system for some time now and I'm thinking it may last me until my next major upgrade... I know it will do 133mhz bus and adjusts the pci clock correctly... what I'm wondering is if I will be able to upgrade my processor to a p3 by way of abit's slotket and if there's any problems I may encounter...

thanks for the help
 

Zucchini

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i had a p2b-s, it worked fine with my c2. So theres a good chance of your board working with the p3. Should be fine, but the 100mhz ver of the p3 and o/c away.

forgot to add, go to asus website and get a new bios for your m/b
 

xtreme2k

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with the P2B

the lowest voltage you can go on that board is 1.8v

a coppermine will work, just it will be given at least 1.8v
 

BoberFett

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I think later revisions (1.12 and later maybe) could support the lower voltages. I have a 1.02 which only goes as low as 1.8v, but my C2 533 runs fine at 824.
 

Eug

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Hmmm... Gotta love this board. Ultra stable and people are still running it after two years (like me).

If it's an older P2B you'll most likely have to update the BIOS to the latest, which is 1012.

First you need to know what version the board is to get the most information. It's usually printed between the card slots, at least in some of them. The numbers range from 1.0 to 1.12. I dunno if anything before 1.02 will work, but verified successes of 1.02 or later are everywhere. The 1.12 board (which nobody seems to have) is fully Coppermine compatible, and will run at any correct PIII voltage. With the older boards, you HAVE to run a flip chip with a slotket which has voltage jumpers, since you cannot adjust the voltage on the motherboard or in the BIOS. If you have an old board like a 1.02 you can't go below 1.8 V. If you try to boot a 1.7 V Celemine at stock voltage, it just won't work - black screen. However, if you have a board like my 1.10 (which also has more bus speeds than the older boards) you can run these lower voltages no problem. However, mine is weird because it only runs voltages in 0.1 V increments. 1.65 usually boots as 1.7, but sometimes it doesn't boot at all. 1.7 works every time.

However, I run 1.8 V anyway to hit 880 MHz with my Celeron 533A, and with 1.9 V I can get 920 MHz stable (but I don't like running my hard drives at such a high PCI bus speed (38.3)).

By the way, most of us prefer the MSI MS-6905 Master slocket over the Abit Slocket !!!. I have run both, and with the former I could run Windows (unstably) @ 992 and with the latter I could barely post.

EDIT: Oops, typos, and forgot my max speed numbers. Luckily it was all recorded for posterity for your viewing pleasure on the overclockers.com database. ;)
 

infiniD

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don't the slotkets take care of the voltage? that seams to be the black area I keep running into... I was under the impression (though not certain) that the slotket overides the voltage coming in to allow the right voltage to be set... that's why I thought the abit part would be the best bet... from what some of you said it seams that I can even just put in a slot coppermine and that it will run fine...

thanks...
 

jsbush

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I've got the P2B-LS on one of my computers and it's running a P3 450mhz.
 

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<< don't the slotkets take care of the voltage? that seams to be the black area I keep running into... I was under the impression (though not certain) that the slotket overides the voltage coming in to allow the right voltage to be set... that's why I thought the abit part would be the best bet... from what some of you said it seams that I can even just put in a slot coppermine and that it will run fine... >>

Arrrgh, no! ;)

The Abit and the MSI are very similar and both have voltage jumpers but most of us just think the MSI is slightly better quality. From an electronics idiot's (me) point of view all these jumpers do is override the CPUs hard coded voltage setting. However, they are dependent on the motherboard's voltage regulator to provide that voltage. If the motherboard can't provide the requested voltage then you're SOL. Many older boards (eg. 1.02) cannot provide less than 1.8 V. So if you put in a Slot 1 PIII that wants 1.7 V, it won't work. You're stuck because there's no way to change that number.

The slocket boards give you the flexibility to set whatever you want. So if your FC-PGA chip wants 1.65 V, you can override that with the slocket by setting 1.8 V, which will be compatible with most P2B boards. However, if you set 1.65 V on the slocket, it won't work with some P2B boards. By the way, it is not only useful for the Asus P2B compatibility, but also useful for overclocking.

P.S. jsbush, the PIII 450 isn't really a good example because infiniD wanted to overclock to 133 MHz, which means he wants a Coppermine. The PIII 450 is not Coppermine and uses much higher voltages, which all Asus P2B boards are compatible with.