P2P Downloads... They have be taking the Pi$$...

[Benmohr]

Well just who came up with this P2P download idea? What a load of Bull $h!t that is. I have a 3 Meg broadband link which I pay good money for and when downloading from a good site I can get about 370M/bs per second or 1 Mb in 3 seconds or 20 M/Bs per minute. World of Warcraft patch came out today?s and is just over 60 M/bs so with a normal server I would have it done in about 3 minutes. It's being doing this P2P $h!t now for 2 hours!!!!!! And I have only downloaded 7.5 M/bs.

Please Please Please Please tell me that this isn?t the future of downloading!

Blizzard?. Stop this and get some real servers, You take our money so provide the service????.

 

[Slick5150]

If you're talking about bittorrent, it sounds like you don't have the right ports open

I get faster speeds over bittorrent than anything else

 

[rstove02]

Originally posted by: Benmohr
Well just who came up with this P2P download idea? What a load of Bull $h!t that is. I have a 3 Meg broadband link which I pay good money for and when downloading from a good site I can get about 370M/bs per second or 1 Mb in 3 seconds or 20 M/Bs per minute. World of Warcraft patch came out today?s and is just over 60 M/bs so with a normal server I would have it done in about 3 minutes. It's being doing this P2P $h!t now for 2 hours!!!!!! And I have only downloaded 7.5 M/bs.

Please Please Please Please tell me that this isn?t the future of downloading!

Blizzard?. Stop this and get some real servers, You take our money so provide the service????.

Blizzards torrent is god awful...use the Filerush bittorrent link in this thread (took 10 min to d/l)...
Forum Link

 

[duragezic]

The problem is that that good site costs a lot of money to be sending you large files at 300+ k/sec... Why not offload the work to all the 3meg broadband subscribers like yourself... And no, 2 hours for 7.5MB is not the future of downloading, that's sounds more like your problem.

 

[Benmohr]

Thanks rstove02. Will give it a try.

What really gets me is that these companies take our money and don't care about the service they provide. They are supposed to be professional developers and they think that this sort of performance is acceptable.

The communications industry is moving forward and giving us faster and faster comms and these jokers are giving me 56k dial up performance :disgust:

 

[Genx87]

This is my #1 complaint with blizzard. They went on the major cheap for a dedicated patcher. Even Ultima Online had a dedicated patcher back in 1998! This is 2005, get with the fvcking program!

Anyways I always just download using fileplanet.

 

[Kappo]

I downloaded it in about 5 minutes using the Blizzard downloader. *shrug*

As an FYI, you need to turn OFF your xp firewall or it crawls. Just allowing the downloader doesnt cut it.

 

[Benmohr]

I have turned off the firewall and it still downloads at 2 - 3 K/bs per second. It must be because everyone else is downloading at the moment. Anyway I found it a fileplanet so at least I can get it done now before I have to go Christmas shopping!!!!

Blizzard, not that you give a $h!t but try fixing this problem, after all it's not like you don't know about it.

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: Benmohr
I have turned off the firewall and it still downloads at 2 - 3 K/bs per second. It must be because everyone else is downloading at the moment. Anyway I found it a fileplanet so at least I can get it done now before I have to go Christmas shopping!!!!

Blizzard, not that you give a $h!t but try fixing this problem, after all it's not like you don't know about it.

I am pretty sure they do not read this forum. However, you might try to locate the 1000 other complaints on thier forums and add something to it

While I am not exactly happy about how many issues this has, I will give them some slack on some things.

a) coding so that it works for every configuration is almost impossible.

b) managing a server(s) with as much load as these take is not easy.

c) "Fix it" is easier said than done. Obviously, if it is was as easy as flipping a switch, they would do just that.

I have been able to play with little interruption on one of the most populated servers (Arthas) and I have never had an issue downloading the patch (I did my home machine, my laptop via wireless, my work machine, and my GF's machine via VPN to my house) nor applying it nor it messing anything up. So really, I can't complain.

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: Benmohr
I have turned off the firewall and it still downloads at 2 - 3 K/bs per second. It must be because everyone else is downloading at the moment. Anyway I found it a fileplanet so at least I can get it done now before I have to go Christmas shopping!!!!

Blizzard, not that you give a $h!t but try fixing this problem, after all it's not like you don't know about it.

Have you done anything with your router configuration?

 

[Benmohr]

Just as a test I disconnected the PC from the router to linked it directly into the cable modem. Too be honest I couldn?t say if it made any noticeable difference or not, it was still really slow.

KAPPO?.I do appreciate that these things are not simple but at the end of the day they must be making HUGE amounts of money from this game alone. Not doing it because it?s hard is NO excuse. The reason I?m sure they don?t do it is to save money and increase profits just like all companies it seems these days.

This game is an on-line game and your comments sum up people?s perception of this type of playing format? Yes you are happy that it?s not slow which says to me that you are pleased with that. But it should NOT be slow and they should provide the service that they are advertising and for which you are paying, otherwise they would be ripping you off.

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: Benmohr
I have turned off the firewall and it still downloads at 2 - 3 K/bs per second. It must be because everyone else is downloading at the moment.

Actually, witih bittorrent, the more people downlading it, the faster it goes.

 

[Quixfire]

I downloaded the patch in less than an hour on two different computers at the same time.

I used the advise on WorldofWardcraft.com about port forwarding and have had any problems.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Quixfire
I downloaded the patch in less than an hour on two different computers at the same time.

I used the advise on WorldofWardcraft.com about port forwarding and have had any problems.

Happen to have a link on how to set up port forwarding? (EDIT: Took me all of a whole minute to find it. )

Personally, I just download the patch from another site. *shrugs*

 

[Gurck]

BT certainly is the present & forseeable future of downloading, and with good reason - it's a great solution. Most issues people have with Blizzard's downloader are of the PEBKAC variety I'm glad they do it, as it allows them to apply money which would otherwise be wasted on unnecessary webserving to the game instead. I would however like for them to implement a means of throttling your upload, their downloader caps your upstream when running, which bogs downloads down, as the overhead for them has to compete with your outgoing torrent :frown: I got this week's patch at 2mbit/sec

 

[zzzz]

I was getting 500k+ download speeds for the wow update....

 

[n0cmonkey]

Bittorrent is not a reasonable solution for downloading patches. Some people cannot download through torrent. bt is hell on the network if not configured properly (and the programs I've tried aren't configured properly by default). Screw bt, screw blizzard.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Bittorrent is not a reasonable solution for downloading patches. Some people cannot download through torrent. bt is hell on the network if not configured properly (and the programs I've tried aren't configured properly by default). Screw bt, screw blizzard.

Screw Blizz? WTF???

They are offering choices for the consumer. If you like their client, which many people do, feel free to use it.
If you don't like it, which many people don't, you can download the patch elsewhere.

What's the problem with having options?

 

[Looney]

I'm not playing WoW atm, but i much prefer the option of being able to download the patches through client, BT or another source like Fileplanet, rather than just the client.... assuming the patch is .zip or something similar, which i imagine it would be. If it is, then if you look hard enough, you should be able to find somewhere else to download it from... and you won't have to 'find' these other places everytime a patch comes out, the site you found will probably host future releases as well. Instead of competing with hundreds of thousands of others trying to download a 200mb patch on patch day through a single pipe, there are probably a thousand different places you can download them from. All the dozens if not hundreds of BTs and FTPs sites out there... or through irc, newsgroup, websites, and who knows where else.

 

[ubercaffeinated]

Properly configured, you should have downed that thing pretty quickly. I was uploading and downing at 320 k/s simultaneously.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Bittorrent is not a reasonable solution for downloading patches. Some people cannot download through torrent. bt is hell on the network if not configured properly (and the programs I've tried aren't configured properly by default). Screw bt, screw blizzard.

Screw Blizz? WTF???

They are offering choices for the consumer. If you like their client, which many people do, feel free to use it.
If you don't like it, which many people don't, you can download the patch elsewhere.

What's the problem with having options?

I take the screwing back, I wasn't aware there was an FTP server with the patches available..

EDIT: Not that I can find their patches on wordofwarcraft.com for download.
EDIT2: From their FAQ:

What if I can't or don't want to use a peer to peer download

If you would like to use the built-in alternate download method, you can un-check the box for peer-to-peer downloading. This will reduce the potential download speed, since it is not as fast as peer-to-peer, but will draw the patch file directly from Blizzard's servers.

They're asking for way too much for a stupid game. :roll:

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Bittorrent is not a reasonable solution for downloading patches. Some people cannot download through torrent. bt is hell on the network if not configured properly (and the programs I've tried aren't configured properly by default). Screw bt, screw blizzard.

Screw Blizz? WTF???

They are offering choices for the consumer. If you like their client, which many people do, feel free to use it.
If you don't like it, which many people don't, you can download the patch elsewhere.

What's the problem with having options?

I take the screwing back, I wasn't aware there was an FTP server with the patches available..

EDIT: Not that I can find their patches on wordofwarcraft.com for download.
EDIT2: From their FAQ:

What if I can't or don't want to use a peer to peer download

If you would like to use the built-in alternate download method, you can un-check the box for peer-to-peer downloading. This will reduce the potential download speed, since it is not as fast as peer-to-peer, but will draw the patch file directly from Blizzard's servers.

They're asking for way too much for a stupid game. :roll:

I don't believe that Blizz offers an FTP, however there are dozens of sites that offer the patch.

I just don't get what you are so bitter about?

 

[imported_fatal]

just go the download.com & download the major patches

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: makoto00
Properly configured, you should have downed that thing pretty quickly. I was uploading and downing at 320 k/s simultaneously.

You are so correct... Today I set up Port Forwarding on my router (thanks to skyking's help). When I installed the patches on a fresh WoW install, I downloaded at well over 100kb/sec. Which is very typical of my connection.