P1 233 MMX vs K6 233 MMX

[BigToque]

In general windows apps and such, how much improvement will I see by changing cpu's?

does the K6 have any L2?

BTW, this is for one really old system that I want to put together for fun. my friend is willing to sell me his p233 for $10 cdn (.50 us )

 

[Budman]

Both K6 & P1 had the L2 externaly on the motherboard.

 

[BigToque]

oh ya... geez, i forgot about that

 

[Budman]

One one thing to consider too is that the K6 233 runs a lot hotter than the PI 233,i would suggest you get the intel PI 233.

 

[Sukhoi]

I think I'd get the P233 MMX, though the K6 233 will be better at OGR if you're going to run that.

 

[Noriaki]

The K6 is probably a bit faster, but not a whole lot. It does have twice as much L1 cache though. Neither have L2.
And it is alot hotter, you need a fan for a K6, I don't think you do for a pentium.

 

[bret]

anything over 66mhz needs a hsf

 

[bjc112]

how much ram.. my old 233 was a bad machine i t was really fast for a 233 and it cooked all of my friends computers!! oh yea it was a pentium

 

[Blastman]

The P-233 and K6-233 will be about the same in general/business/integer applications.

The Pentium will be a little faster in gaming and FP ... probably 10-20% ... PCmagazine benches ...

 

[MGMorden]

Bret: Noriaki said you wouldn't need a fan, nothing about a heatsink. The new Via CPU's (based on the IDT samuel core) will run 700mhz+ with no fan.

 

[BigToque]

ok well the truth is, my friend has a pc with a k6 233 w/ 32mb ram and win95. he just bought a 12x cd burner and it wont burn correctly over 2x speed.

which cpu would you suggest for this? i'm already giving him 48 more mb ram.

 

[MGMorden]

Depends . . . if that mobo doesn't support seperate i/o and cpu core votages then you're maxed out. If it does then you'd probably be best off with a K6-2+ or so, though you may only be able to run it at 66mhz bus (which will max out at 366mhz with the available K6-2 multipliers AFAIK).

 

[Pederv]

If your motherboard can do split voltages, 3.3V I/O and 2.1V - 3.4V internal and you can get a bios upgrade. You should be able to run at either 366MHz or 400MHz. I have a PA2007 that will max at 366MHz and a Soltek 430TX that will max at 400MHz, the Soltek uses the X2 setting to get X6. Some 66MHz FSB motherboards will even run the K6-2+, so check the BIOS updates.

 

[McCarthy]

Ok, fan - Pentium 100 or higher. Most P75 or higher had them, though 75s and 90s would do fine with an average sink, 100 with a decent sink.

Throw a contemporary heatsink on there and you might be able to run a 233 fanless or a very quiet fan anyway Socket 7 and Socket A use the same clips

Hey, you said it's for fun, get a big sink/quiet fan and make it look like one badass 233
(and enjoy the silence)

--Mc

 

[OS]

K6 233 will be a bit faster for integer/windows apps. P 233 mmx is significantly faster in FPU. I've owned both, Pentium mmxs and K6s and I'd rather have a Pentium if the clock/bus speeds are the same.

 

[NaughtyusMaximus]

I used to run a P200Mmx @ 250 , and it had a hard time burning anything faster than 2x. Don't expect an improvment without increasing the clock speed.

 

[OS]

<< I used to run a P200Mmx @ 250 , and it had a hard time burning anything faster than 2x. Don't expect an improvment without increasing the clock speed. >>



Really? My parents have a Pentium 233 mmx in their system and it burns at 8x fine. Sure you can't multitask, but it otherwise seems ok. I think it has more to do with system configuration than the cpu speed, my parent's system has 128 megs of SDRAM and everything has DMA enabled.

 

[coolVariable]

Enabling DMA on your Burner is a BAD THING TO DO...

 

[mcbiff]

<< Enabling DMA on your Burner is a BAD THING TO DO... >>



Really, my Plextor manual says to do so. I've been running that way for over a year with no problems and low CPU util as opposed to 30-40% with DMA off.

 

[coolVariable]

Oh yeah?
But every Burnersoftware out there tells you to disable it...