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oh shit

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brycejones said:
This why you see ads running to recruit people into ship building. Also the navy is finally moving forward with building the capability to reload VLS cells at sea which is going to be a huge force multiplier.

But yes we need to build more missiles so we actually have them to reload ships as needed and for sustained combat.
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Navy rolling out TRAM for at sea VLS replenishment is a huge deal. They did some successful tests last spring but I haven't heard a peep about it since. Quite the challenge, they want it to work up to Sea State 5.

They've been testing for awhile, hope it's soon. Definitely one of those things we need. Like more refueling tankers, or more ship repair capacity.
 
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brycejones said:
This why you see ads running to recruit people into ship building. Also the navy is finally moving forward with building the capability to reload VLS cells at sea which is going to be a huge force multiplier.

But yes we need to build more missiles so we actually have them to reload ships as needed and for sustained combat.
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This is one of the ways they're advertising, 3rd base line at Fenway Park...we're only 1 1/2 hours from Groton CT! My wife asked what it was for when we were at a game, told her that the US is desperate for skilled people to work in the trades, to the point that not only Naval projects are being delayed but also building the factories that the Chip Act is trying to get off the ground. But Nooooo, we need to restrict immigration and keep everyone from coming to this country!

If I was 30 years younger, I would be all over this...well except for the fact 30 years ago most nights I was drunk and weaving my way through the wee streets of Edinburgh. Oh, to be single and in my late 20's today. If you're willing to move, i.e. be a migrant, and have the skills, you can make serious bank right now!
 
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uallas5 said:
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This is one of the ways they're advertising, 3rd base line at Fenway Park...we're only 1 1/2 hours from Groton CT! My wife asked what it was for when we were at a game, told her that the US is desperate for skilled people to work in the trades, to the point that not only Naval projects are being delayed but also building the factories that the Chip Act is trying to get off the ground. But Nooooo, we need to restrict immigration and keep everyone from coming to this country!

If I was 30 years younger, I would be all over this...well except for the fact 30 years ago most nights I was drunk and weaving my way through the wee streets of Edinburgh. Oh, to be single and in my late 20's today. If you're willing to move, i.e. be a migrant, and have the skills, you can make serious bank right now!
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excellent little tidbit of info there. Thanks!

I'm now focusing on navy capability details that I never knew were a thing...and small economic bits and pieces that lead to all these things, by focusing on like, 3 or 5 posts in a joke thread :D

Also, in that post up there with the Newsweek article about Chinese/US capabilities and investment--the comments section. I mean. eh. One dude keeps using Afghanistan as some benchmark of abject failure. I mean, not keeps doing, but he's the next guy of the what, 2500+ years of "Great nations" consistently and un-interrupt-ingly losing their identity and "world supremacy" of their respective eras--LITERALLY IN AFGHANISTAN--every single fucking time, lol.

It's just, when you consider that the greatest military nations always went there, defeat greeted them. No matter what. It happens in its own eras and in their particular ways, but the end is really all the same.

For sure, in certain eras you just go in to conquer, but the goals are as important as the military capability, and to me that is always part of the story--our goal is always influence--much of it shady for sure, but sometimes like...good, no?--but we don't bring military in and establish national colonies...that is, legitimately, a thing that the US DOES NOT DO! (coups to empower local leadership and eh "hopefully" get a decent dictator out of the deal, in like central and south America for only 80+ years, is still fairly different from the conquer/colonize days of empire).

So that is always a reason we won't bring full force to bear and go hog wild on all targets...we just spend resources making shitty deals with warlords, essentially acting as their private assassination squad for like, 8 straight years, fomenting the return of the Taliban due to those regional citizens wising up to US funding of this warlord/Narco territorial civil war that the US entirely paid for and armed because it essentially became "the actual Afghan war"...oh I went off again.
 
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Have you been following the Missouri mess?

Several recent cases where a court orders the release of an exonerated prisoner, only to have the State AG step in and fight it, delaying the release.

Missouri woman who served 43 years in prison is free after her murder conviction was overturned​

www.cnn.com.ico
CNN|11 days ago
Chillicothe, Missouri (AP) - A woman whose murder conviction ... s office in contempt if they continued to fight against her release. She reunited with her family at a nearby park, where she ...


Missouri Supreme Court paves the way for release of Christopher Dunn​

www.stltoday.com.ico
St. Louis Post-Dispatch|10 hours ago
The Missouri Supreme Court on Tuesday paved the way for Christopher Dunn's release from prison after 34 years.



A few others also.
 
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BoomerD said:
Professional football teams start looking for other places to play. Outside teams start refusing to play in Ohio...
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Bengals will probably push back due to cost reasons, but players fucking HATE playing on artificial surfaces. I'd have to imagine the NFLPA will either be silent or in favor of this.

Having said that, I'm not entirely sure there's a societal benefit that requires this kind of legislative intrusion on what should be seen as a private business entity.
 
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Pens1566 said:
Bengals will probably push back due to cost reasons, but players fucking HATE playing on artificial surfaces. I'd have to imagine the NFLPA will either be silent or in favor of this.

Having said that, I'm not entirely sure there's a societal benefit that requires this kind of legislative intrusion on what should be seen as a private business entity.
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I'm not a fan of crumb and astroturf...but the state has no business getting involved in such things.
 
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BoomerD said:
I'm not a fan of crumb and astroturf...but the state has no business getting involved in such things.
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Henceforth all pro sports game shall be played on natural turf sourced from the Ohio government. This includes racing and ice sports.
 
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uallas5 said:
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This is one of the ways they're advertising, 3rd base line at Fenway Park...we're only 1 1/2 hours from Groton CT! My wife asked what it was for when we were at a game, told her that the US is desperate for skilled people to work in the trades, to the point that not only Naval projects are being delayed but also building the factories that the Chip Act is trying to get off the ground. But Nooooo, we need to restrict immigration and keep everyone from coming to this country!

If I was 30 years younger, I would be all over this...well except for the fact 30 years ago most nights I was drunk and weaving my way through the wee streets of Edinburgh. Oh, to be single and in my late 20's today. If you're willing to move, i.e. be a migrant, and have the skills, you can make serious bank right now!
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It really a serious thing if you want to maintain skills required for building subs. Best stealth tech ever. Need to see how the Trident replacement is going. Did some testing before I retired, indirectly for GD, for the new design.
 
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Pens1566 said:
Bengals will probably push back due to cost reasons, but players fucking HATE playing on artificial surfaces. I'd have to imagine the NFLPA will either be silent or in favor of this.

Having said that, I'm not entirely sure there's a societal benefit that requires this kind of legislative intrusion on what should be seen as a private business entity.
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It's bad for your knees and feet. If they use the old rubber tire fill, you get cancer risks. Mariners did it right. Moveable roof so you can play on rainy days, and real grass.
 
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