P&N Break Out From Hume

[DesiPower]

Please keep your knuckle dragging stupidity where it belongs . . . in P&N!

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Entirely false. Every-fucking-bit of it. Women CAN and DO do these jobs; it's just that evolutionarily many women don't have the predilection toward those jobs. But there are definitely women who can and do them: they too should not be discriminated against; just like women shouldn't be discriminated against in the office or as officers or as doctors.

I assume the funny is that the argument is being made in broken english; which reflects how fucking dumb people who would make this argument are.

 

[John Connor]

You forgot the word "almost" you PC noob.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

You forgot the word "almost" you PC noob.

 

[mikeford]

Entirely false. Every-fucking-bit of it. Women CAN and DO do these jobs; it's just that evolutionarily many women don't have the predilection toward those jobs. But there are definitely women who can and do them: they too should not be discriminated against; just like women shouldn't be discriminated against in the office or as officers or as doctors.

I assume the funny is that the argument is being made in broken english; which reflects how fucking dumb people who would make this argument are.

Women cops, women firefighters, should be seen as a bright beacon of PC failure.

Not saying some women can't do these jobs, but PC isn't about that, its about lowering standards until an average woman meets the phony requirements.

 

[UncleWai]

This thread is not about feminism.

 

[gevorg]

 

[Jodell88]

 

[chimaxi83]

A new low, fat hogs using pregnancy to get out of a ticket. What will they think of next?!

 

[Perknose]

A new low, fat hogs using pregnancy to get out of a ticket. What will they think of next?!

"Female emergency" is a monthly affair which, ironically, does not occur during pregnancy. Also, fat not found, except between your ears.

 

[First]

Ah yes, young white males, a truly trampled upon group in this country.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

"Female emergency" is a monthly affair which, ironically, does not occur during pregnancy. Also, fat not found, except between your ears.

You might want to read that image over again, troll.

 

[Perknose]

You might want to read that image over again, troll.

My bad. I made a mistake and only read the small print first post. A mistake is not trolling, but, I guess, if it makes you feel better about yourself to call me one, knock yourself out.

 

[waggy]

LOL pc police are at it today. now all we need is a white guild thread to complete the trifecta!

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Women cops, women firefighters, should be seen as a bright beacon of PC failure.

Not saying some women can't do these jobs, but PC isn't about that, its about lowering standards until an average woman meets the phony requirements.

Which should not happen. Any requirement that functional standards for the core activities of any job be changed is bullshit. Luckily the law only requires non core standards be dropped if they have an adverse impact on a protected class.

For example: If your job is stocking shelves and you have to lift 100lb boxes to do it, then that can be part of the requirements. However, if your job is to mop the floor and once every few years there's a 100lb box that it would be nice to have the floor-moper put up, then that cannot be part of the requirements if it adversely impacts a protected group who would otherwise have access to the job.

It's not about making a woman who can't lift 200lbs of dead weight a firefighter; it's about not stoping her from being a firefighter when she passes that test but fails the "has a dick" test.

The amount of ignorance amongst the general population, and even some of the HR folks I've met at SHERM, regarding what equal opportunity means is truly astounding. Affirmative action, too, has nothing to do with quotas: but about advertising and attempting to recruit for a job outside of the typical social networks where in you find a homogenous population.

In fact, unless court-ordered; the use of quotas can be a point of contention used by a different protected class to show adverse impact against them. For example, hispanic quotas may be used by people with functional autism to show that there's an adverse impact: because the rate of autism in the hispanic community is significantly lower. Quotas are a no-win situation and only open you up to a law suit: a lawyer that advises otherwise is either looking to get into a litigious payday or ignorant.

(but again, ignorant professionals are more often the rule than the exception).

 

[Orignal Earl]

Is there a lot of guys here who do what has traditionally been a woman's job for a living?
Maybe that's why they feel more threatened by women

 

[waggy]

Is there a lot of guys here who do what has traditionally been a woman's job for a living?
Maybe that's why they feel more threatened by women

sure. I have been a stay at home father for 12 (almost 13) years.

I know a few that do ti also.

It's not that we feel a women can't do the job. It's if she can pass all the test that is required. but as someone said having a dick should never be one.

I know a few fire fighters (babysat 2 of them when they were kids, brother and sister). one is a female. she has always been a tough girl. being a fire fighter is something both have wanted to do since they were 5. she has worked hard all her life to be able to pass the physical test and she has.

The same for officer and military. IF they can pass the physical part then fuck yeah they can do the job.

I am no fan of letting women get a job with reduced physical test just because they are females.

 

[Orignal Earl]

sure. I have been a stay at home father for 12 (almost 13) years.

I did that for a couple of years too, after my youngest was born.
It was great, but not easy

I know a lot of women in construction, city work crews, oil fields and all of them are doing exactly the same job as the men.
The men all love it when women join the team

 

[waggy]

I did that for a couple of years too, after my youngest was born.
It was great, but not easy

no it's not easy. but it's not as many women claim it is. While i am as busy as any job i have ever done the stress level is so far down that its near nonexistent.

I'm pretty much busy 7am -9pm most nights lol. but that's driving, cleaning, etc. pretty stress free and physically easy.


hmm newborns though. yeah that's rough.

 

[gevorg]

LOL @ all the PC butthurts! :biggrin:

 

[Orignal Earl]

no it's not easy. but it's not as many women claim it is. While i am as busy as any job i have ever done the stress level is so far down that its near nonexistent.

I'm pretty much busy 7am -9pm most nights lol. but that's driving, cleaning, etc. pretty stress free and physically easy.


hmm newborns though. yeah that's rough.

Your used to it now though right.

He was my third child, the first was stressful, and then it got easier
I don't hear many women actually saying it's real stressful
I know everybody does a little whining now and then

 

[DigDog]

idk guy, due to unforeseen life circumstances, i had to work one of the jobs listed above, and while working on 5 different sites (easily over a thousand people) i have seen ONE woman working in these roles. there were a few more women in the same company, working exclusively in the office.

also the one woman was a driver, she did not actually have to do any of the physical work involved.

on another related circumstance, there was another, one (again) woman doing the same job in another part of town, and this was so unusual that it merited a full page in the local papers.

 

[Orignal Earl]

idk guy, due to unforeseen life circumstances, i had to work one of the jobs listed above, and while working on 5 different sites (easily over a thousand people) i have seen ONE woman working in these roles. there were a few more women in the same company, working exclusively in the office.

also the one woman was a driver, she did not actually have to do any of the physical work involved.

on another related circumstance, there was another, one (again) woman doing the same job in another part of town, and this was so unusual that it merited a full page in the local papers.

I had a ranch wife in today picking up rolls of barb wire (around 150 pounds each and awkward like fucc) tossing them into the back of her truck
Then picking out her fence posts 6" to 8" by 8' and loading them.
Hutterite girl the other day, around 17 years old, ripping apart a pile of landscaping ties to make sure she got the best of them

Like 15 years ago I was training entire crews of women in construction

 

[Victorian Gray]

Some jobs that women can't do

Ooops.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Garbage guy here is one guy driving truck, doesn't get out of truck
Sewer crew would be city crew and would be lots of women running the equipment to dig up and replace
Never been in a mine but

Maybe Saskatchewanians are just a more hardy people