OWS More Violent than White Supremist Group

[Londo_Jowo]

Doesn't appear to be as cut and dry as you claim.

Many commentators have stated that the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act’s repeal of the affiliation restrictions of the Glass-Steagall Act was an important cause of the late-2000s financial crisis. Others have argued that the activities linked to the financial crisis were not prohibited (or, in most cases, even regulated) by the Glass-Steagall Act. Commentators have also argued that the ability of commercial banking firms to acquire securities firms (and of securities firms to convert into bank holding companies) helped mitigate the financial crisis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

 

[hal2kilo]

His methods caused no damage. The bankers brought down entire countries.

You think he "lied or manipulated". I don't. No one can even try to claim the bankers are at fault.

Feel free to create a michael moore thread nad post an anti michael moore site as "proof" and I'd be happy to debate you.

Yea, that damn Michale Moore used hypnosis to get people to pay money to watch his documentories.

 

[Ninjahedge]

No one can even try to claim?

You mean all those legal charges and such are just a figment?

Shadow, don't make it that easy man. There's no sport in it!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

No one can even try to claim?

You mean all those legal charges and such are just a figment?

Shadow, don't make it that easy man. There's no sport in it!

Where's the indictments of these executives? Who's been charged?


Oh that's right many OWS protesters have been arrested, convicted, and fined.

 

[Icepick]

The OWS movement is a liberal movement, there is no confusion about this except inside your head. The OWS movement was born from a hatred of the Tea Party by the left. The OWS movement is a socialist movement. The Tea Party just wants government out of our lives.

The amount of ignorance in the post is mind-boggling.

 

[shira]

There's no evidence that I'm aware of of the white supremacists mentioned doing either of the above.

But since some white supremacists have committed violence - including murder - somewhere at some time in the past, then according to the OP's logic white supremacists are violent murderers. And since no OWS'er has ever (to my knowledge) committed murder, it must be true that the White Supremacists being protested are much more violent than OWS'ers.

So the thread title should actually be, "OWS less violent than those they protest."

 

[cybrsage]

According to shira, everyone is a murderer since groups they belong to have committed murder in the past. Are your ancestors European? Europeans have committed murder in the past, so you are a murderer...

Yeah, that is a VERY stupid position to hold.

Lets look at the here and now, though. OWS attacked the police and the white supremist group...the white supremist group was peaceful. Which group is more violent?

 

[shadow9d9]

According to shira, everyone is a murderer since groups they belong to have committed murder in the past. Are your ancestors European? Europeans have committed murder in the past, so you are a murderer...

Yeah, that is a VERY stupid position to hold.

Lets look at the here and now, though. OWS attacked the police and the white supremist group...the white supremist group was peaceful. Which group is more violent?

Going by your quote in my sig, I will form the opinion that the white supremacist group as more violent. Am I doing it right?

 

[shadow9d9]

Where's the indictments of these executives? Who's been charged?


Oh that's right many OWS protesters have been arrested, convicted, and fined.

I know you think you made some clever remark there...

Were some of the civil rights protesters arrested? I'm curious.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I know you think you made some clever remark there...

Were some of the civil rights protesters arrested? I'm curious.

OWS never will be the same as civil rights.

 

[shadow9d9]

OWS never will be the same as civil rights.

That isn't the point and was never intended to be. You are trying to link protesters being arrested to the validity of their claim.

 

[hal2kilo]

How many Federal buildings have the OWS crowd blown up?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

That isn't the point and was never intended to be. You are trying to link protesters being arrested to the validity of their claim.

Nope, just making a statement, you're the one trying to tie things together.

Fact: No one has been charged with causing the economic downturn.

Then again how many influential people that worked in the banking community are now part of the current administration?

Fact: Many OWS protesters have been arrested, charged, and fined.

 

[shadow9d9]

Nope, just making a statement, you're the one trying to tie things together.

Fact: No one has been charged with causing the economic downturn.

Then again how many influential people that worked in the banking community are now part of the current administration?

Fact: Many OWS protesters have been arrested, charged, and fined.

Oh ok, just random statements with no meanings.. gotcha.

Fact: I like cake.

 

[shadow9d9]

Fact: Londo never claimed to not be a coward trying to weasel his way out of obvious implications.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Ahhh poor baby can't deal with facts.

 

[Nemesis 1]

This is like comparing one turd to another and trying to figure out which one looks tastier. In the end, you are still eating a turd.

/Bear Grylls

Your correct those Dem-ons are truely shit heads . Sad part is they think their intelligent. righties suck almost as bad , But its just a smell of shit. With dem-ons they try to make ya eat their shit brains.

 

[shadow9d9]

Ahhh poor baby can't deal with facts.

Says what? I just listed some facts of my own. Care to dispute any or are you just going to name call some more?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Says what? I just listed some facts of my own. Care to dispute any or are you just going to name call some more?

I saw you try to blame the boogieman executives for the economic downturn but couldn't name any names. You tried to compare arrests from the civil rights era to OWS arrests.

 

[shira]

According to shira, everyone is a murderer since groups they belong to have committed murder in the past. Are your ancestors European? Europeans have committed murder in the past, so you are a murderer...

Yeah, that is a VERY stupid position to hold.

Lets look at the here and now, though. OWS attacked the police and the white supremist group...the white supremist group was peaceful. Which group is more violent?

Sorry, but this is YOUR illogic, not mine. And you just repeated it in your final paragraph.

 

[shadow9d9]

I saw you try to blame the boogieman executives for the economic downturn but couldn't name any names. You tried to compare arrests from the civil rights era to OWS arrests.

For the record:

Did executives of banks play a major part of the worldwide economic collapse: Yes or no? I could use a new sig quote.


After that dodge...

You implied that arrests of a protest has negative connotations for the protest. I asked if this "logic" applied to all protests and movements, or just the ones you personally disliked... then you tried to weasel out of it by simply "claiming a fact" with no implications.

Yes, I am comparing arrests for 2 movements. Why would they reflect on one but not the other?

Were women arrested when protesting for women's rights? How about the labor movement? How do you determine which arrests for which movement are ok and which aren't?

You made a baseless attempt to link arrests with being necessarily bad and I called you on it.

 

[cybrsage]

Going by your quote in my sig, I will form the opinion that the white supremacist group as more violent. Am I doing it right?

What quote of mine is in your sig?

 

[cybrsage]

Sorry, but this is YOUR illogic, not mine. And you just repeated it in your final paragraph.

You are the one who said we need to dig into the past...and now you are pretending I am the one who created this logic?

No wonder no one takes you seriously here.

 

[shadow9d9]

What quote of mine is in your sig?

You are right, I confused you. My apologies.

 

[shadow9d9]

And one more question for the record Londo.

Do you realize that your same implications, that because there are arrests, that somehow a protest or movement is worth less was used to describe: labor rights, civil rights, desegregation, women's right to vote, etc?

It is funny. Because those movements are accepted as legitimate NOW, the arrests are bogus. What do you think was said of them by the people against them at the time? The EXACT same thing you are saying.

Funny how history keeps repeating itself.