OWS More Violent than White Supremist Group

cybrsage

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At least two law enforcement officers were injured during a clash with members of the Occupy movement who were at the state Capitol to protest a rally by a pro-white group.
The clash erupted about 3 p.m. Monday as California Highway Patrol and Sacramento city police officers were escorting about 35 members of the South Africa Project to a parking garage following their protest outside the Capitol building.
An Associated Press photographer says roughly 50 members of Occupy Oakland began throwing cans and bottles at the South Africa group and at the officers. The Occupy members then rushed the officers as people with the pro-whites group rushed into the parking garage.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/2...fornia-capitol/?test=latestnews#ixzz1ngd6FLie

Notice 60 to 70 OWS people attacked the police and the 30 to 40 people who think differently than them, but the white supremist group was peaceful.

You can see the violent OWS protestors here:

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/playlist//3310694

Freedom of speech means those you do NOT agree with are allowed to speak too. OWS, like many liberal groups, only wants the freedom of speech to apply to them.
 

Atreus21

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Shrug. I dunno. Even being white, I'd be hard pressed not to get really nasty if the KKK started marching down my street.

But this is the South Africa Project. Who are they? Are they the KKK (whites uber alles) or just a group complaining about racism against whites?

There's a whoooole lotta difference between the two.
 

PeshakJang

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I'm surprised they actually even tried to find a reason to be violent. Up until now, it's usually just for the sake of being violent.
 

xBiffx

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This is like comparing one turd to another and trying to figure out which one looks tastier. In the end, you are still eating a turd.

/Bear Grylls
 

shadow9d9

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What makes a group that is against banking and deregulation greed that sank the world's economy so a few people could get rich... who then get away without any prosection... "liberal"?
 

irishScott

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What makes a group that is against banking and deregulation greed that sank the world's economy so a few people could get rich... who then get away without any prosection... "liberal"?

Well there's the fact that they cheer billionaire exploitationist Michael Moore, among others. They don't care if you bend the rules to get rich so long as you agree with them.
 

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What makes a group that is against banking and deregulation greed that sank the world's economy so a few people could get rich... who then get away without any prosection... "liberal"?

Why do liberal progressives make up the majority of its members?
 

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/2...fornia-capitol/?test=latestnews#ixzz1ngd6FLie

Notice 60 to 70 OWS people attacked the police and the 30 to 40 people who think differently than them, but the white supremist group was peaceful.

You can see the violent OWS protestors here:

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/playlist//3310694

Freedom of speech means those you do NOT agree with are allowed to speak too. OWS, like many liberal groups, only wants the freedom of speech to apply to them.

Let me follow this reasoning....

Lemons are yellow ergo anything yellow is a lemon.
 

irishScott

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Let me follow this reasoning....

Lemons are yellow ergo anything yellow is a lemon.

The assertion is more: OWS and affiliates are a bunch of angry liberals. They're a less intelligent counterpoint to the Tea Party, only far less effectual and far more in your face about it.
 

woolfe9999

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The assertion is more: OWS and affiliates are a bunch of angry liberals. They're a less intelligent counterpoint to the Tea Party, only far less effectual and far more in your face about it.

You're missing something though. The demographic of OWS, while liberal, is also quite young. The demographic of the tea party is very old. Young people have more energy and generally I would expect more violence and/or general rowdiness from what is essentially a youth movement. It doesn't excuse the violence, of course, but it does help to explain it.
 

Darwin333

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What makes a group that is against banking and deregulation greed that sank the world's economy so a few people could get rich... who then get away without any prosection... "liberal"?

Its rather sad actually, OWS started out as what you described but then morphed into something completely different. If they would have stuck to the original message they might have gotten something done but now they are simply ineffective. As a perfect example, what do white supremacists have to do with those banksters and regulation?
 

Thump553

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Get back to me on this when OWS starts gunning down police and the FBI. Otherwise I call shens.
 

xBiffx

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There's no evidence that I'm aware of of the white supremacists mentioned doing either of the above.

Shush you. All that matters is that white supremacists are capable of doing such a thing whereas OWS people are just young fun loving criminals.
 

cybrsage

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Shush you. All that matters is that white supremacists are capable of doing such a thing whereas OWS people are just young fun loving criminals.

Stop acting like a continuous stream of criminal actions by groups of OWS protestors means groups of OWS protestors are comitting criminal actions.
 

Ninjahedge

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OWS "protestor" /= OWS supporter.

Some people see a protest as a means to do what they want when they want to. Unlike the Tea Party, they (small factions) are not kicked out (of the OWS protests) when their signs do not agree with the mainstream. (You would need something really FAR from mainstream to be cut loose).

Add to it the general attitude even expressed here towards OWS. There are many that have voiced their opinion and desire to ruin the movement, it is not a very large stretch to see a group of Neo-Nazis or the like deciding to use any opportunity like this to not only destroy a bit of what they want to destroy, but give a bad name to a group they do not agree with.

Win-win to any radical with half a brain.
 
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shadow9d9

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Well there's the fact that they cheer billionaire exploitationist Michael Moore, among others. They don't care if you bend the rules to get rich so long as you agree with them.

Huh? They aren't anti people who are wealthy.. did you even read my post or know anything about them? Banks were deregulated and a handful of people got rich by imploding the world's economy... then no one was prosecuted for the intentional destroying of these companies to make a few bucks. What would they hate michael moore for? Get a clue.
 

irishScott

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Cite your proof of this majority.

OK. How about the official site's forum?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/

We have:

Why Capitalism must be ABOLISHED
Should OWS spearhead an effort to have the minimum wage raised to $10 an hour?
Republicans seem to embody rapist mentality
Support The 99% + Working Class Hero, John Lennon

And that's just the obvious titles. Cursory examination of the conversations taking place, even in threads with pro-Republican/anti-OWS titles, show a clear liberal majority.
 

irishScott

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Huh? They aren't anti people who are wealthy.. did you even read my post or know anything about them? Banks were deregulated and a handful of people got rich by imploding the world's economy... then no one was prosecuted for the intentional destroying of these companies to make a few bucks. What would they hate michael moore for? Get a clue.

So you have problems with billionaires who manipulated the system to make money, but no problem with billionaires who blatantly lie to and manipulate masses of people to make money. Got it.
 

zinfamous

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/2...fornia-capitol/?test=latestnews#ixzz1ngd6FLie

Notice 60 to 70 OWS people attacked the police and the 30 to 40 people who think differently than them, but the white supremist group was peaceful.

You can see the violent OWS protestors here:

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/playlist//3310694

Freedom of speech means those you do NOT agree with are allowed to speak too. OWS, like many liberal groups, only wants the freedom of speech to apply to them.

you do realize that OWS has as much of a conservative following as it does a liberal one, right?

Oh, you must be a fan of the bank bailouts and such.
 

marincounty

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So you have problems with billionaires who manipulated the system to make money, but no problem with billionaires who blatantly lie to and manipulate masses of people to make money. Got it.

Error, billionaire not found. A quick internet search finds Michael Moore's wealth to be about $50 million. Definitely a substantial fortune, but nowhere near a billionaire.

This is a perfect example of why liberals laugh at righties, you are constantly exaggerating and making things up. Lying seems to be the standard operating procedure, Obama is a muslim, he's a Kenyan, he's a communist....