PingSpike
Lifer
- Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Ornery
WTF, they only make 4dr, short beds!
the vast, vast majority of truck owners get some sort of extended cab version. of course it wouldn't be hard to offer a regular cab, extended bed version, but its more development funds and not a very large market
Huh. I didn't know that. I just figured with all the light trucks that had regular and extended cabs I see around most people agreed with me that 4 door trucks looked ugly. Who wants a huge truck like the titan with a short bed though? Just buy an SUV.
you suck at reading.
Apparently.
I've been looking into buying a new truck, and I can tell you that the Titan is already dirt cheap. In my area Nissan is undercutting Ford/RAM/Chevy by at least $5,000 on similarly equipped trucks.
To Spike:
You seem to be assuming that everyone is looking for a "luxury SUV", but I don't think that would work very well for something like farming or construction. The bed on the Titan is only a foot shorter than a standard bed, just like every other 4-dr model. Not a big deal considering the popularity of the crew cab.
Pliablemoose
Lifer
- Oct 11, 1999
- 25,195
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I think it was bad timing for Nissan, Ford has teh low end covered with the Hertiage holdover for the low end buyers & Ford loyalists are flocking to the re-designed F150.
I suspect if the trucks had been released in a year with no new pickups released by the big 3, sales would have been much better.
I suspect if the trucks had been released in a year with no new pickups released by the big 3, sales would have been much better.
http://www.nissannews.com/corporate/news/2004/20040401094020.shtml
sales of truck based vehicles up 78% from last year, or 76% if you take the entire year. (ie not including altima)
sales of truck based vehicles up 78% from last year, or 76% if you take the entire year. (ie not including altima)
BigSmooth
Lifer
- Aug 18, 2000
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I don't think the Titan is in trouble yet. The truck just hit dealerships in December, so it hasn't been on the market long enough to build any kind of name recognition. I'm guessing the first quarter is not the best for pickups in general, so if the summer goes by and they still aren't selling, then it's probably time to worry.
Quest and Armada are probably more troublesome. Neither one seems to be a total failure, but I think Nissan's projections were far too high so they're going to have a lot of excess capacity at their plants, which is a big waste of money.
These are tough markets they are trying to break into (full-size pickup/SUV and minivan buyers have to be some of the most loyal in the industry) and it seems like Nissan was simply overconfident. All three vehicles have gotten good reviews, but there are many "good" products in these segments and people like to go with a name they know and trust.
Quest and Armada are probably more troublesome. Neither one seems to be a total failure, but I think Nissan's projections were far too high so they're going to have a lot of excess capacity at their plants, which is a big waste of money.
These are tough markets they are trying to break into (full-size pickup/SUV and minivan buyers have to be some of the most loyal in the industry) and it seems like Nissan was simply overconfident. All three vehicles have gotten good reviews, but there are many "good" products in these segments and people like to go with a name they know and trust.
Out here in the midwest you're either a ford or a chevy man when it comes to trucks. Yeah there's Dodge and Toyota to some extent but still...
When I go to my in-laws, there's an F-150 around back and 2 Explorers and 2 Escapes in the driveway.
well in the write-up i saw with the 3 top end duallies, that's pretty much what they said.. i am only agreeing with what i read
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Bah! You're a bigger Mopar whore than I am a VAG whore.
this may be true, but HOWEVER, at least for the time being, the Ram 3500 high output turbo diesel has the biggest power output right now.
that's why I put Ram > all.
I also think they look better than any other truck, personally.
I don't usually like trucks but I do like the Titan.
I hate the Quest though, don't like it's looks.
I hate the Quest though, don't like it's looks.
slag
Lifer
- Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: edro13
Honda's truck will pwn them all!
It'll be the world's first truck offered exclusively with FWD and a 2L 4-banger.
Just wait till the riceboys get their hands on that. Soooooo much extra room to mount and even bigger spoiler on the back.
Actually, the subaru brat was a full time front wheel drive 4 banger truck (it was 4wd also, but i know that a few models were 2wd only with a 5 speed stick)
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Bah! You're a bigger Mopar whore than I am a VAG whore.
this may be true, but HOWEVER, at least for the time being, the Ram 3500 high output turbo diesel has the biggest power output right now.
that's why I put Ram > all.
I also think they look better than any other truck, personally.
(LAUST)Too bad it doesn't have the transmission to handle the power(/LAUST)
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Bah! You're a bigger Mopar whore than I am a VAG whore.
this may be true, but HOWEVER, at least for the time being, the Ram 3500 high output turbo diesel has the biggest power output right now.
that's why I put Ram > all.
I also think they look better than any other truck, personally.
(LAUST)Too bad it doesn't have the transmission to handle the power(/LAUST)
heh, we'll see.. it's a brand new truck, and obviously some time will tell.
Originally posted by: slag
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: edro13
Honda's truck will pwn them all!
It'll be the world's first truck offered exclusively with FWD and a 2L 4-banger.
Just wait till the riceboys get their hands on that. Soooooo much extra room to mount and even bigger spoiler on the back.
Actually, the subaru brat was a full time front wheel drive 4 banger truck (it was 4wd also, but i know that a few models were 2wd only with a 5 speed stick)
Dont forget VWs attempt at a Rabbit based truck way back when. Didnt Dodge/Chrysler also offer a small pickup that was based on one of its econo-boxes?
VW
Dodge/Chrysler version
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
- Jul 3, 2003
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I think the Titan, Armada and Quest are just plain ugly. I test drove a Titan about a month ago but I couldn't see buying one. I just didn't like the looks of the thing. I'd never buy a Chevy or Dodge either and I think the new Ford F150 is fugly. I do like the F250/F350 and the Toyota Tundra Double Cab and could own either of those trucks. I don't need anything with the hauling/towing capabilities of the 3/4 or 1 ton Fords though.
There's that whole 1st year model thing too. Over at Titan Talk there are Titan owners complaining of a wide range of problems. Some minor and some not so minor.
I think they did a good job with the new Altima though. That car is freaking everywhere in So Cal. They're as common as Accords and Camrys here.
There's that whole 1st year model thing too. Over at Titan Talk there are Titan owners complaining of a wide range of problems. Some minor and some not so minor.
I think they did a good job with the new Altima though. That car is freaking everywhere in So Cal. They're as common as Accords and Camrys here.
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