The college gym doesn't allow standing overhead presses. I'm planning on using Stronglifts 5x5. Should I go with seated overhead presses or dumbbell overhead presses (which I don't think are prohibited there)?
Overhead press substitute
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SociallyChallenged
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What the hell? What kind of rule is that to restrict a normal, compound exercise? That makes no sense at all.
I don't understand it either. They allow bench press without racks, but standing overheads are bad, rack or no.
is there actually someone there preventing you from lifting how you want to? I mean unless your going to be banned from the gym or something i'd tell them to f***off
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Yeah, exactly. At our gym (UC Davis), they say no backpacks in the lifting area, must be in shorts, must have close-toed shoes, etc and none of those get enforced. I would think they wouldn't get on your case, especially if you can crank em out. I don't understand though, in all seriousness. Standing overhead press is safer than seated since you can bail the weight either way. It's almost 100% sure to NOT fall on you. Screw idiotic administration that knows nothing about what it's running.
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Our gym prohibits all overhead lifts from the olympic platforms. Because of "safety concerns." So the platforms are for deadlifting.
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damn, even in a rack where you have supports set up if you need to dump? That's screwed up.
I actually had a question about OV presses - crossfit.com shows them always done to lockout (with the arms slightly behind the head)...should I keep to this or is a press straight up and down okay?
My dinky shoulders are slowly developing...I can only OV press like 115lb (for a full set). And to think that I was feeling so good about my seated military presses going up
I actually had a question about OV presses - crossfit.com shows them always done to lockout (with the arms slightly behind the head)...should I keep to this or is a press straight up and down okay?
My dinky shoulders are slowly developing...I can only OV press like 115lb (for a full set). And to think that I was feeling so good about my seated military presses going up
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They don't allow standing overhead press at UCF either because of safety concerns. However, there isn't much of an area to do them anyways. They would be safe for the person doing them but not for anyone around that individual. It's always packed in there.
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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
damn, even in a rack where you have supports set up if you need to dump? That's screwed up.
I actually had a question about OV presses - crossfit.com shows them always done to lockout (with the arms slightly behind the head)...should I keep to this or is a press straight up and down okay?
My dinky shoulders are slowly developing...I can only OV press like 115lb (for a full set). And to think that I was feeling so good about my seated military presses going up
I've learned to be careful with CF's form. Their "lockout" has aggravated my shoulder injury in the past. You want to get a full range of motion, but I do not feel that pushing your head through does much.
Yeah, two staff guys, and from their desk they can see everyone. I don't know if they would actually enforce the rule though, I assume they would.
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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
damn, even in a rack where you have supports set up if you need to dump? That's screwed up.
I actually had a question about OV presses - crossfit.com shows them always done to lockout (with the arms slightly behind the head)...should I keep to this or is a press straight up and down okay?
My dinky shoulders are slowly developing...I can only OV press like 115lb (for a full set). And to think that I was feeling so good about my seated military presses going up
I've learned to be careful with CF's form. Their "lockout" has aggravated my shoulder injury in the past. You want to get a full range of motion, but I do not feel that pushing your head through does much.
Getting your head through ensures that you're getting the most push from your back. I can push a lot more weight up when I drive my head through just after it clears my forehead.
Do they have actual written rules that prohibit the press? If they do and it only mentions the press, be a nit-picky jerk and substitute the push-press for the press.
Otherwise, you're probably SOL. Sitting presses are okay, but you don't get any core stabilization work, which is one of the benefits to the OHP.@BeauJangles - The sign says "Standing overhead presses and Olympic lifts are prohibited in this facility".
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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
"I was just doing tricep extensions, I swear." Eh, eh?
Extremely serious tricep extensions. They'll go for it!
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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
"I was just doing tricep extensions, I swear." Eh, eh?
Extremely serious tricep extensions. They'll go for it!
Screw them. If they're gonna be stupid, they're gonna get a retarded response, lol - at least from me anyhow.
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
"I was just doing tricep extensions, I swear." Eh, eh?
Extremely serious tricep extensions. They'll go for it!
Screw them. If they're gonna be stupid, they're gonna get a retarded response, lol - at least from me anyhow.
I would have to agree.
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Just out of curiosity, do they have bumper plates? If they don't, I can see why they wouldn't want most retards doing Oly lifts -- the retard comment not aimed at you, OP.
push-ups or inverted push-ups. squat next to a wall, hands about one feet
from wall, kick up so feet are against wall & the body is vertical & you're upside
down, start exercising. works the same muscle groups but does elevate the
blood pressure in your head.
push-ups with your girlfriend sitting on your back.
push-ups with your girlfriend laying underneath.
from wall, kick up so feet are against wall & the body is vertical & you're upside
down, start exercising. works the same muscle groups but does elevate the
blood pressure in your head.
push-ups with your girlfriend sitting on your back.
push-ups with your girlfriend laying underneath.
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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
damn, even in a rack where you have supports set up if you need to dump? That's screwed up.
I actually had a question about OV presses - crossfit.com shows them always done to lockout (with the arms slightly behind the head)...should I keep to this or is a press straight up and down okay?
My dinky shoulders are slowly developing...I can only OV press like 115lb (for a full set). And to think that I was feeling so good about my seated military presses going up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDq-wrQZPLQ
It's fine to lock it out. Tuck your chin back so the bar DOESN'T NEED TO GO AROUND YOUR FACE. Your in a better position if the bar can go up without going around your face then as it goes past the top of your head push it slightly behind you. So if you look from above (plan view) the bar will go more towards the backend of your head. This is a more mechnically efficient way to press then to move the bar around your face.
The lock out shouldn't be a problem minus any injury and with enough stretching/ warm up at the start of the session. Also remember to warm up to that weight e.g. do the bar x 6reps, 30 or 40kg 3-4x and then go to town on 50kg or a few more reps etc and get on your training weight.
Koing
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Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
damn, even in a rack where you have supports set up if you need to dump? That's screwed up.
I actually had a question about OV presses - crossfit.com shows them always done to lockout (with the arms slightly behind the head)...should I keep to this or is a press straight up and down okay?
My dinky shoulders are slowly developing...I can only OV press like 115lb (for a full set). And to think that I was feeling so good about my seated military presses going up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDq-wrQZPLQ
It's fine to lock it out. Tuck your chin back so the bar DOESN'T NEED TO GO AROUND YOUR FACE. Your in a better position if the bar can go up without going around your face then as it goes past the top of your head push it slightly behind you. So if you look from above (plan view) the bar will go more towards the backend of your head. This is a more mechnically efficient way to press then to move the bar around your face.
The lock out shouldn't be a problem minus any injury and with enough stretching/ warm up at the start of the session. Also remember to warm up to that weight e.g. do the bar x 6reps, 30 or 40kg 3-4x and then go to town on 50kg or a few more reps etc and get on your training weight.
Koing
Yeah, I do it just like you said - I don't have difficulty with the move, I just wanted to see what people said about locking out "behind" the head as opposed to just pressing "in front" of the head.
Every time I see people with o-lifting setups and bumper plates, I get jealous. I want to throw that shit around too
Bumper plates being that it's a plastic/rubber-like coating? Yes, they have bumper plates. The floor also has a thick pad almost everywhere.
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Koing
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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
damn, even in a rack where you have supports set up if you need to dump? That's screwed up.
I actually had a question about OV presses - crossfit.com shows them always done to lockout (with the arms slightly behind the head)...should I keep to this or is a press straight up and down okay?
My dinky shoulders are slowly developing...I can only OV press like 115lb (for a full set). And to think that I was feeling so good about my seated military presses going up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDq-wrQZPLQ
It's fine to lock it out. Tuck your chin back so the bar DOESN'T NEED TO GO AROUND YOUR FACE. Your in a better position if the bar can go up without going around your face then as it goes past the top of your head push it slightly behind you. So if you look from above (plan view) the bar will go more towards the backend of your head. This is a more mechnically efficient way to press then to move the bar around your face.
The lock out shouldn't be a problem minus any injury and with enough stretching/ warm up at the start of the session. Also remember to warm up to that weight e.g. do the bar x 6reps, 30 or 40kg 3-4x and then go to town on 50kg or a few more reps etc and get on your training weight.
Koing
Yeah, I do it just like you said - I don't have difficulty with the move, I just wanted to see what people said about locking out "behind" the head as opposed to just pressing "in front" of the head.
Every time I see people with o-lifting setups and bumper plates, I get jealous. I want to throw that shit around too
Who presses in front? Thats just bad technique or they are donig it for some specific reason...a military press should end up towards the back of your head. Tuck the chin in to press!
I love my setup
thats the one of the main things why I am living in my area. Close access to my Oly club.Are you on the ground floor? Bumper plates and a mat on the 2nd floor is useless as most gyms won't want you dropping weights from over head on to the floor when your on the 2nd floor.
Mate, it's just sad. It's their rules so your f0cked
Koing
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