Overcoming our taboo over eating people

madoka

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I guess I'll just be a speciesist.

http://www.lifenews.com/2018/03/06/...at-to-overcome-our-taboo-against-cannibalism/

Richard Dawkins, the (in)famous atheism proselytizer, has mused about eating human meat.

No, he doesn’t want to join the Donner Party. Researchers may soon be able to manufacture meat from cell lines in the lab, and Dawkins has suggested in a tweet that we could “overcome our taboo” by eating human flesh so manufactured.

What if human meat is grown? Could we overcome our taboo against cannibalism? An interesting test case for consequentialist morality versus “yuck reaction” absolutism.

Yes, we must break “taboos” or we are not free!

Cannibalism is profoundly immoral in Western culture — absent absolute necessity, such as when members of the Donner Party consumed their already deceased co-travelers to stay alive — because it denies human exceptionalism and the unique dignity and meaning of human life.

This view extends even to those who have died, which is why we treat the deceased in a respectful manner and why desecrating the dead is considered to be immoral and is against the law — even in war.

Dawkins, of course, rejects the concept, considering it “speciesist,” e.g., discrimination against animals. He thinks we are just a collection of carbon molecules and certainly of no intrinsic value simply and merely because we are human. (For example, he has yearned for the creation of a human/chimp hybrid creature as a means to prove we are not special.)

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BudAshes

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The Russians are always ahead of us it seems:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...human-meat-pies-restaurants-article-1.3525461

Anyone remember manbeef.com? I had a friend who was seriously trying to order a steak from them. He was convinced it was real and tried to place an order but the phone just went to a voicemail :(

*edit* I just tried going to manbeef.com and they want 10k starting bid for the domain.
 
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whm1974

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The best tasting Long Pig I've had was a young women being basted while slowly roasted alive.
 

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Sounds like Richard Dawkins needs to web search "kuru". If you can grow human flesh in a lab, it is more valuable for medical purposes than food. I can eat a chicken that has been eating scraps, bugs, and weeds for next to nothing.
 

momeNt

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I'd be concerned that eating lab-grown human meat may make people start killing each other when they are hungry - so I don't think the notion is very clean from a consequentialist perspective.
 

sandorski

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I'd be concerned that eating lab-grown human meat may make people start killing each other when they are hungry - so I don't think the notion is very clean from a consequentialist perspective.

Do people routinely kill cows, chickens, pigs when they are hungry?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I'd be concerned that eating lab-grown human meat may make people start killing each other when they are hungry - so I don't think the notion is very clean from a consequentialist perspective.
Pretty sure people will start killing each other if they get hungry regardless of whether or not they've been eating lab-grown meat. Most folks are ~6 missed meals from murdering their neighbor for whatever's in their pantry.
 

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I'd be concerned that eating lab-grown human meat may make people start killing each other when they are hungry - so I don't think the notion is very clean from a consequentialist perspective.
Yeah, once your already sketchy neighbor gets the taste he'll start eyeing you in the driveway. Then, like a dog who's eaten him some human, you'd have to put him down . . . and then eat him! :D
 

momeNt

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Do people routinely kill cows, chickens, pigs when they are hungry?

It is different, eating a pig whether or not you killed it or not is no less "authentic". People may eventually want the real thing, cut right from the bone, in order to compare, and lab grown meat is a good way to introduce them to that thought in the first place.
 

momeNt

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Yeah, once your already sketchy neighbor gets the taste he'll start eyeing you in the driveway. Then, like a dog who's eaten him some human, you'd have to put him down . . . and then eat him! :D

Pigs can get a taste for human, that is a proven fact.
 

sandorski

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It is different, eating a pig whether or not you killed it or not is no less "authentic". People may eventually want the real thing, cut right from the bone, in order to compare, and lab grown meat is a good way to introduce them to that thought in the first place.

Perhaps some would, but I don't think we will be making Lab Human Meat for consumption anyway. The idea Dawkins, I believe, was getting at whether Human Meat is somehow special in comparison to other Meat.