overclocking p4 2.4C 533mhz fsb? or should I upgrade?

[vrbaba]

Okay, so I am getting into this overclocking scene as I've decided to play some pc games besides xbox.
I built this system this past summer:
Abit IS7 MB
Pentium 4 2.4C Ghz 533fsb
2x512 ram PC2700 (DDR333) (forgot but I think they both are samsung, at least one for sure)
*Currently has years old video card...some nvidia tnt 32mb

I tried to overclock it when I first built it, but as I recall i was unable to overclock it even a little. Since I wasnt playing much games, I let it go.
I just bought a Powercolor Radeon 9600 Pro 128mb card. Will I be able to overclock it now? Or does it not matter at all?
Also, what is the correct way to overclock it? If i remember correctly, I went into the bios and just tried changing the system speed by making it manual. I also tried to increase the voltage, but it wont even boot properly. I may have gotten like 2500, but I had to switch it to normal in the end w/o even runnign any games yet.
I have the regular Intel supplied heatsink and fan. I also have 2 fans in the case.

So is this cpu even worth to overclock? I was thinking of getting the 2.4C Ghz 800mhz fsb w/ HyperThreading. I heard it was good to overclock. Will I have any luck? Abit IS7 is supposedly good to overclock. Is it some memory issue that I cant overclock my current cpu?

Any insight is appreciated. Thanks

 

[o1die]

Try bumping up the memory voltage to 2.7. Use the 1:1 ratio or 333 setting, and bump the cpu vcore to 1.6. Then you should be able to overclock. Leave the agp/pci at 66/33 (locked). Try 220 for the cpu, then gradually increase the fsb by 5 each time, and run your setup awhile (about 24 hours between changes) to be sure it's stable.

 

[zShowtimez]

"Pentium 4 2.4C Ghz 533fsb"
Do you mean 533FSB (2.4B), or 800MHz FSB (2.4C).

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Give it a shot before you buy a new CPU. I o/ced my 2.6C buy starting out at 200FSB (stock), then I changed the memory divider to 5:4 (on my ASUS P4P800 deluxe you have to set DIMM Frequency to 320MHz to make it a 5:4 memory divider - I dont know about the IS7), and then I went up 10FSB at a time, until it was unstable (at 3.25GHz Prime95 crashed). Then, up the voltage a notch until it works (but dont go over 1.6V). This way worked for me.

-Josh

PS check out my "oc thread": Text its mostly just me reporting my progress tho lol.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: zShowtimez
"Pentium 4 2.4C Ghz 533fsb"
Do you mean 533FSB (2.4B), or 800MHz FSB (2.4C).

He has a 2.4c but he has PC2700 RAM so it can't run at 800MHz FSB.

If you're seriously looking to OC, upgrade your RAM.

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: zShowtimez
"Pentium 4 2.4C Ghz 533fsb"
Do you mean 533FSB (2.4B), or 800MHz FSB (2.4C).

He has a 2.4c but he has PC2700 RAM so it can't run at 800MHz FSB.

If you're seriously looking to OC, upgrade your RAM.

I was thinking of getting the 2.4C Ghz 800mhz fsb w/ HyperThreading.

Why would he think about buying a CPU he already has? And the CPU can still run at 800FSB, just run it with a 5:4 divider. Think before you post.

-Josh

 

[wkabel23]

Try telling that to the starter of the thread jackass.

"Okay, so I am getting into this overclocking scene as I've decided to play some pc games besides xbox.
I built this system this past summer:
Abit IS7 MB
Pentium 4 2.4C Ghz"

Instead of being a jackass on the internet try being useful. I was pointing out that he could get 800MHz FSB by buying PC3200+ RAM. Did I say it was the only way? NO. Sorry I didn't read his whole post, but looking at the first part it appears he has a 2.4C ( YOU KNOW 2.4C's CAN RUN AT 533MHz FSB DON'T YOU??? ) and I was giving a suggestion.

Have you shaved your head as part of the intiation into the Forum Nazis?

 

[vrbaba]

Ok, Apologies for misprint.
I have the 2.4B w/ 533fsb.
My goal is to get around 3Ghz or up. So the basic question is with the configuration I have, WILL i be able to get there and how? (Since i dont go back to college until the 5th, I will not be able to actually test it) If people are sure that I need to upgrade, I was thinking of ordering stuff now so I will get it by then.

Also, how much does Hyper-Threading help for gaming? (This is where I am thinking of getting the 2.4C 800fsb cpu)

wkabel23, you mentioned some issue about the pc2700 ram. How does that limit my overclocking?
Thanks for the positive inputs.

 

[Duvie]

The HT will offer very little in terms of gaming as most games are not SMT enabled so you wont get much if anything...You can still take advatage of the HT in the multitasking world...IE gaming while doing other intensive apps and still have playable games....


However I may have a hint for you....

Try running The NB strap of 667...It should open up opportunity to use some ratios that may prolong your oc with that slower ddr ram....


Also please list the power supply and specs....That mobo is a great overclockers board and was and is still very compatable with 533fsb andb chip overclocking.....

Now depending on the specs of that p4b most p4b were getting to 3ghz but I saw many fall short at around 2.8ghz and quite a few hit 3.2ghz (mine included)...for many though the problem was in the i845 chipsets we were running limiing us to not much above 170-180fsb.....I think 170fsb would give you a 3.06ghz oc....You wont have fsb or NB heat related issues with that speed....

 

[vrbaba]

Thanks for the info.
I have Antec 350W power supply.
"Try running The NB strap of 667...It should open up opportunity to use some ratios that may prolong your oc with that slower ddr ram...."
Could you exaplin that please and also how may I go about doing it?

Also, I have the regular fan and heatsink by Intel that came standard in the retail box. Is that good enough?
How exactly are you suppose to go about checking the temperature? I have a sensor w/ display in the case, and right now it is just hanging in there giving me room temperature. I was thinking of somehow attaching between the heatsink and the cpu to get the temperature? Or is that too absurd?

Originally posted by: Duvie
The HT will offer very little in terms of gaming as most games are not SMT enabled so you wont get much if anything...You can still take advatage of the HT in the multitasking world...IE gaming while doing other intensive apps and still have playable games....


However I may have a hint for you....

Try running The NB strap of 667...It should open up opportunity to use some ratios that may prolong your oc with that slower ddr ram....


Also please list the power supply and specs....That mobo is a great overclockers board and was and is still very compatable with 533fsb andb chip overclocking.....

Now depending on the specs of that p4b most p4b were getting to 3ghz but I saw many fall short at around 2.8ghz and quite a few hit 3.2ghz (mine included)...for many though the problem was in the i845 chipsets we were running limiing us to not much above 170-180fsb.....I think 170fsb would give you a 3.06ghz oc....You wont have fsb or NB heat related issues with that speed....

 

[Duvie]

For the NB strap go into the bios and then the soft menu and about mid way down you will see the category for NB strap...Set it to 667 and then go one tab down to the ratios and set it to 5:4...I believe it should have it if I am right...


For the temperature monitoring go onto the cd-rom tha came with the abit IS7 and under utilities in the main menu there should be a program called winbond hardware doctor..Install it and load it when you go into windows and just push it up in the corner of the screen and keep an eye on it as you test the system...


Now the retail HSF can be an issue here...The retail hsf that came with the 2.4b is not as good as say the 2.4c HSF from my recollection and therefore 3ghz may be its limit...However why spend money on someting you may not need if this chip can't go 3ghz anyways...wait until we know the HSF is limiting your OC before you spend money here...