overclocking old stuff?

[Triplefour]

is it still cool to overclock pentium 2's?
and if so can i get a p2 450 to 500 or better? its 100x4.5 right now and runs at 40 degrees or so...is thatenough room to overclock?

i never had an intel system before....but i got this dual p2 board from ebay...gonna get another processor to put in it too so i was thinking if i had 2 at 500 that = 1ghz right right???

also i wanted to o/c the tnt2 ultra thats in there.... it runs at 150mhz and like 180mhz for the memory...i put a much better fan on there and i was just playing but i got it to 190 and 199 before it stareted crashing...thats probly all i can do, right?
can a pII system play ut2003? just barely atm...

 

[SpeedFreak03]

I dunno about overclocking an old system/video card (they are so old you wont see much of a difference), but with dual systems, you dont add the 2 CPUs together, they are seperate. You say 2x500, not 1GHz.

-Josh

 

[myocardia]

Actually, that system isn't even fast enough to install UT2k3. I'm pretty sure that the software checks your hardware before the install, and won't let it install, if the processor isn't fast enough to run it.

 

[Richardito]

The PII's will probably go a little higher than 500MHz's. Do not expect a miracle.

 

[Triplefour]

well...i didnt install it...i just copied it over the network and then tracked down the registry files that make it work...

ut2k3 DOES play on a p2 450...its really almost playable too...but what i really want to know is if i get the second processor will it make the system perform at 1ghz levels? also i thought i heard that you need win2k to make use of multi processors...is that true>? and also how do i overclock to 500 mhz?

 

[Triplefour]

ut2k3 performs perfectly(enough) with a p3 700mhz and a ti4800 in my experience...

 

[adams828]

it might seem simple enough to say that having 2 processors would be exactly the same as 1 processor that's twice as fast, but that's not necessarily true. it's never going to be that simple

40C should give you some room to OC, although i don't know how accurate those readings are. try bumping it up, run it under load and see what temps you get. don't expect to get a huge clock increase like you would w/a current generation cpu. (think %-ages)

 

[Triplefour]

yeah i tried to overclock it by changing the multiplier via jumper on the board but it booted up reading the same 450 mhz...
p2's need to be unlocked or something?

 

[Triplefour]

does anyone remember howto unlock a pentium 2 ?

 

[Killrose]

Intel processors have always been Multi locked and usually are only good for FSB adj to get more speed. What chipset does that dually board have? and is that a 100MHz FSB 450 PII or the older 66MHz bus? Intel at the time of the 450 PII had two versions.

If it is a BX chipset, though rated for only 100MHz operation, if the motherboard allowed it, they were good for 133MHz FSB no prob, though the 450 PII would not ever handle it, maybe 105-120MHz? dunno. The LX chipset is only a 66MHz FSB I beleive, maybe it was the FX.

And no, 2x500MHz processors don't equall 1gig, you do get the advantages of 2 processors, though they are trying to share the same bus.

Some of this info is bogus....

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Actually UT2K3 played just fine (no skipping etc) on my old P3 500MHz, 256MB PC100 SDRAM and ATI Radeon 9000 128MB. I had it set at 800x600 with all default game details (i didnt change them but I think they were like medium and some high).

-Josh

 

[Triplefour]

phat ) yeah i have a ti4600 in my good machine and i was thinking of just putting it in there and seeing if that would do the trick...i know with 2200 even a 32 mb gfx card (tnt2) would be enough...but i dont want to cripple my good rig! and im lazy to switch the grafix card everytime i wanna deathmatch

well.. yeah to answer i do have the 100 mhs bus..its the bx chipset...or whatever...its not bx but gx or something but it just means dual ... and im not sure if theres option to change fsb in the bios...is there some other way? the board only allows 66mhz and 100mhz by jumpers...

 

[Egrimm]

You would have to resort to oc'ing via software (if you can find something that supports the mobo) I fear.

And as people have said dual-cpu's isn't equal to their combined clock speed, far off. You will get an increase in aps that support two cpu's but in ones that only use one there would be no difference. Most likely would be a 25 performance increase max or so in most apps that support it, some more but in most it will not mean much.
You need an OS that support multiple cpu's to use the second, yes. WinNT4, 2k or XP Pro is needed or some version of a 'nix os.

 

[Triplefour]

well 25 percent is a lot i wish i had some more pc133 ram though...like 128 more cause im only running 192 in there...there ought to be some lying around in my couch cusions or something...

do you know the software overclocking program you speak of?

i couldve swore there was a way to unlock the multiplier....then again i never had an intel system since p166

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: Triplefour
but what i really want to know is if i get the second processor will it make the system perform at 1ghz levels? also i thought i heard that you need win2k to make use of multi processors...is that true>? and also how do i overclock to 500 mhz?

2 processors only work together if you're multitasking or if you're running multiple processor threads within a single program.

Yes, you need an OS somewhere in the NT tree to make it work (i.e. NT itself, 2k, XP, etc.). Or, you can just run Linux, but that's just me.

Overclocking most P2's I've seen require either changing motherboard jumpers or changing BIOS settings. (They come either way.) You have a bus speed and a multiplier. Sometimes, the instructions for the jumper settings are etched into the board if you're lucky.

I got my friend's 400 to run over 600 one time, but I backed it off a bit for long-term reliability (like if he ever gets dust in the fans, etc.) He's running 450 comfortably right now.

I'm the guy you want to talk to when it comes to obsolete hardware. I still use it!

 

[Triplefour]

yea changing the multi on the board doesnt do anything...and i can only select 66 or 100mhz fsb...do you know a software overclocking of the fsb for p2 ?

 

[KF]

>do you know the software overclocking program you speak of?

SoftFSB at voodoofiles.com

 

[Triplefour]

can you tell me how to work this program? this board for the dual pentium 2 is made by supermicro
super p6dgu
and i dont see that in the mainboards list in this program.
does that mean i cant use it? or is there a board in that list that is similar to mine?

thanks

 

[myocardia]

Actually, if any software overclocker is gonna work with your obsolete hardware, it's gonna be ClockGen, available here.

edit: And no, it's not still cool to overclock P2's

 

[Jeff7181]

Software has to be written to use multiple processors... I doubt UT2k3 is... at best, you could run two games at once, or a DC program while playing UT2k3 at 7 frames per second

 

[Triplefour]

damn well someone had told me that as long as i had win2k that it would just use both of them to do whatever..... like...it would actually improve performance in ut2k3...but maybe whoever it was that told me that is some kind of spy. ill get them later

and uh...thanks for the cpu tweaking program ill try it tomorrow....passing out
maybe if i upped the volts to my brain by +0.25v could make it another hour or two...but i havent any caffeine or the stomach for it atm...

someday overclocking p2's is going to come back into style....ill be ready

 

[Triplefour]

seems i cant download that program....cant find the link...but on the mirror page (where i still cant find the link) it seems to indicate that this program only works for pentium 3 and above.

is that true?
thanks again

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: myocardia
And no, it's not still cool to overclock P2's

It's all relative. If you're poor like me, go for it.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: Triplefour
seems i cant download that program....cant find the link...but on the mirror page (where i still cant find the link) it seems to indicate that this program only works for pentium 3 and above.

is that true?
thanks again

It only supports one single make and model of P2 motherboard. I don't know about you, but it's not the P2 I have. (I have a PC Chips M766LMRT2 v. 1.3 myself.)