Outpost.com Sempron 3100+ vs Sempron 3000+

[darkplayer]

Okay got a question, Outpost has a sale for 2 sempron CPU, 3100+ and 3000+.

http://shop2.outpost.com/search?cat=-51558&pType=pDisplay

The 3000+($83) is priced $24 more than the 3100+ ($59). The 3000+ has a stepping DO but the 3100+ isn't registered, does that mean the 3100+ has no stepping capabilities?

Thanks

 

[darkplayer]

I just did some research here, is it beacause one is the Paris core and the other a Palmero core?

 

[darkplayer]

I found a good article (xbitlabs) explaining the deference but still curious why the other sempron is priced so low.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/sempron-3100e_3.html

 

[darkplayer]

Found this to be real useful in identifying sempron which supports 64 bit processing.

http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=56575

 

[robertk2012]

those 3100s have been palmero cores.

 

[swamyg1]

So is that 3100 a socket 754 64 bit processor??? That's a hot deal if it is...

 

[robertk2012]

The 3100 is a 64 bit 754 processor.

 

[IamDavid]

Originally posted by: robertk2012
The 3100 is a 64 bit 754 processor.

I purchased one and its not 64...

 

[Avalon]

Some of the ones coming out of Outpost now are SSE3 and 64bit enabled, others are still 90nm Palermo but not 64bit/SSE3. Don't ask me why the 3100+ is cheaper than the 3000+...must just be a sale. The only difference between models (stepping aside) is that the 3000+ has 128KB of L2 cache, while the 3100+ has 256KB. Both are 1.8ghz chips.

 

[darkplayer]

Originally posted by: Avalon
The only difference between models (stepping aside) is that the 3000+ has 128KB of L2 cache, while the 3100+ has 256KB. Both are 1.8ghz chips.

That's what I figured......

 

[CCityInstaller]

Originally posted by: darkplayer

Originally posted by: Avalon
The only difference between models (stepping aside) is that the 3000+ has 128KB of L2 cache, while the 3100+ has 256KB. Both are 1.8ghz chips.

That's what I figured......

The extra cache should make a fairly big difference IMO. I would go for the 256KB model.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: CCityInstaller

Originally posted by: darkplayer

Originally posted by: Avalon
The only difference between models (stepping aside) is that the 3000+ has 128KB of L2 cache, while the 3100+ has 256KB. Both are 1.8ghz chips.

That's what I figured......

The extra cache should make a fairly big difference IMO. I would go for the 256KB model.

Users on these boards ran benches with various model Semprons (both 256KB and 128KB chips) in my old Palermo overclocking thread, which I can't seem to find archived any longer, but the consensus was that the difference in cache amounted to 10% performance in CPU limited resolutions in some games, but mostly just 5% performance difference in most other things. It's really not that bad.

I still recommend the 256KB chips, though, since like I mentioned they are rarely more than a few extra bucks.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: robertk2012
those 3100s have been palmero cores.

Mine is Paris with 64-bit but no SSE3. Unless you are saying that these 3100+'s are different than OEM 3100+'s that come with bundles.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: robertk2012
those 3100s have been palmero cores.

Mine is Paris with 64-bit but no SSE3. Unless you are saying that these 3100+'s are different than OEM 3100+'s that come with bundles.

A 130nm Paris with 64bit? That's interesting.

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: IamDavid

Originally posted by: robertk2012
The 3100 is a 64 bit 754 processor.

I purchased one and its not 64...

recently? From outpost?

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: robertk2012
those 3100s have been palmero cores.

Mine is Paris with 64-bit but no SSE3. Unless you are saying that these 3100+'s are different than OEM 3100+'s that come with bundles.

THose were the retail version he was talking about.

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: robertk2012
those 3100s have been palmero cores.

Mine is Paris with 64-bit but no SSE3. Unless you are saying that these 3100+'s are different than OEM 3100+'s that come with bundles.

A 130nm Paris with 64bit? That's interesting.

Ive got one of those too and that seems to be the norm now.