Outlook Express cripled after SP1 or somehing.

[elkinm]

I instaled SP1 and everything is fine now but when I try opening Outlook Express I see the splash screen for several minutes before it actualy enteres the Outlook Express inbox. I don't know exactly what is cauing this but I noticed that Outlook Express no longer has the logon to MSN mesenger option in setings and Messenger does not load. Msmsgs.exe is seen in task manager but closing it does not work and opening messenger manualy does not work either.

I don't want to remove messenger entierly and messenger is not dissabled form running. If anybody know if SP1 or some other program might stop messenger from running in such a manner, please help me as although it is anoying sometimes, having a useles computer when it is stopped is just unecceptable.

Thank You
Michael Elkin

 

[Niege]

I'm having a similar problem with SP3 in W2K. I'm going to try this thread's advice:
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[elkinm]

Please tell me how it goes. I don't know about you but I still do want to use the messenger and I want it to start with OE so I hope the fix does not require removing it.

Thanks

 

[Insidious]

I think the way msn messenger is handled changed with SP1 (as part of the legal remedies M$ has to put in place)

click the START button, then all programs, and at the top of the list you should see a new program called "set program access and defaults"

run this and check/experiment with the settings (under custom, you should see the choice to use msn messenger and the box to enable access to it)

Hope this helps ya

-Sid

 

[farmercal]

I had a similiar problem that was caused by Ontrack firewall not starting when it should. I disabled the firewall and install black ice and everything works like new again.

 

[elkinm]

Fixed it,

I dissabled messenger through the new SP1 setings as well as in gpedit and restarted. At boot I did not have msmsgs.exe running so I tried OE. msmsgs.exe did not load at all but OE took exacly 30 seconds to load reminding me of the 30 second delay some systems have when browsing the network before the scheduled tasks fix, maybee they run based on the same time so when one finds were the XP 30 delay is then many problems could be solved.

Then I reenabled messenger in the sp1 settings and gpedit and restared OE. It loaded fine with messenger but I clearly noticed about a one second delay that simply whent into loading messenger before OE could continue unlike before SP1 where OE and messenger loaded simultaneously or OE loaded first, another big SP1 bug. And the automatic logon option is back in OE. MY guess that SP1 somehow routes that spetial option and messenger in a bad way such that although it is not there messenger is still in the program but messenger can't run and in the long run this horable implementation slows OE down buy exactly 30 seconds.

A different post stated that renaiming the messenger folder causes OE to load instantly, but without messenger proving to me that OE does not explicidly need messenger to load but it is just the new opltion that is sometimes removed from OE by SP1 causes the problems. Had SP1 left OE alone and just delt with messenger all would be fine, but when have you known Microsoft to do the smart ang dood thing.