Out of the loop for a while

Sentrosi2121

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My last system I built was about 5 years ago. My current system specs below;
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R
CPU: Intel E8400 3.0Ghz (no overclock)
Video Card: Asus 4850
RAM: 4Gb DDR2 PC800
Monitor: 22" 1680x1050 2ms response time (Can't remember the brand name. At work right now but will update if needed)
Storage: (1) 250Gb 7200, (1) 500Gb 7200, (1) 1Tb 7200
Optical Drives: (2) Lite-On x16 DVD-R Drives (1 is defective; does not record)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 650W Xfire/SLI ready
Case: Coolermaster Cosmos 1000

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
This PC will be mostly used for Gaming. I'm looking at Star Wars: The Old Republic as my next big game to get into.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
I'd prefer the budget be under $500

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
United States

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.
No brand preference. Prefer bang-for-the-buck over pride in ownership.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Yes. Case, Storage, DVD Drives, Power Supply (If applicable to the build), Monitor (for now)

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.
Have done a bit of research, but time is limited to me these days.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
While I've never overclocked, if it would affect the price, I would consider it.

8. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.
Currently game at 1680x1050, but would love to be able to game at 1920x1080, perhaps with 2 monitors. This would be a future purchase but I would like the hardware to be able to scale to that when the time comes.

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
I would like to build it around Christmas/New Years
 
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darkewaffle

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Well I think you can do one of two things.

The one option is the out and out upgrade; new mobo, new cpu, new ram, and (probably) new gpu. Socket 775 is dead and new mobos use DDR3 so you're pretty much looking at replacing at least those three components, but for gaming the biggest impact tends to come from your video card so you'd be doing yourself a disservice not making a move up there too.

With that said, the other option is just take that same new GPU, stick it in your current rig and see if you still feel the need to upgrade. The C2Ds were fairly capable, and just trying this wouldn't hinder your ability to complete the upgrade later.

Intel will probably go a bit over budget though the processor will be a bit more powerful. AMD you'll still likely go a little over budget with, but much closer.

Intel or AMD, I'd say RAM and video card, for $324, $304 AR.

AMD 955 + MSI 870 mobo for $229. Just a little bit over, but actually pretty powerful. Or if you get an Athlon II X4 instead of a Phenom, you can probably get under the $500 mark.

Intel i5-750 $195
ASUS P7P55D-E Mobo $157

Also there's this i5 + EVGA mobo combo for only $230 AR. But I can't help but think $35 for a mobo is kind of suspect lol.

Were it me, I think I'd try the solo GPU upgrade first. It'll be a very significant improvement and at that resolution your CPU shouldn't bottleneck too badly. Also it's usually wise to wait for more official specs on a game before investing too much in an upgrade.
 
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Jhatfie

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I agree with Darke, try upgrading your graphics card first. Most games are still greatly limited to taking advantage of two cores with diminishing returns with additional cores. You can also generally pretty easily OC your E8400 to 3.6-4.0Ghz giving additional free performance.

If that point you decide you need more, then upgrade your cpu/motherboard.
 

Sentrosi2121

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So as far as video cards go, is it pretty much a battle between the 5830 and the GTX460?
 

darkewaffle

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I think most anyone will take a 460 over a 5830 any day. Significantly better performance almost across the board and runs cooler. Also overclocks especially well further increasing the performance gap.
 

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I think most anyone will take a 460 over a 5830 any day. Significantly better performance almost across the board and runs cooler. Also overclocks especially well further increasing the performance gap.

Yeah, the 460 competes more with the 5850 from a performance point of view.
 

Sentrosi2121

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Thanks for the help everyone! Shopping around for a 460 right now. So should I be looking at the 768Mb memory or the 1Gb memory for what I want to eventually do with my system?
 

darkewaffle

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Definitely the 1GB version. That MSI Cyclone for $205 AR above is probably about as good of a price as you're going to find on one, though if you prefer another vendor they're all priced somewhere around $230-240 iirc.
 

Sentrosi2121

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Another upgrade question; on my motherboard I have 6 slots for the ram. 4 slots are for DDR2. The two other slots are reserved for DDR3 1333. Currently I have 4GB of DDR2 800 RAM in my system now. I noticed that RAM for DDR3 1333 that they're around $100 for 2 sticks of 2GB Ram, which would max my RAM out on those slots at 4GB. Would it be wiser to invest in the 4GB of DDR3 RAM now or max out my board to 8GB of DDR2 RAM?
 

darkewaffle

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Are you referring to the GA-EP35-DS3L mobo mentioned above? There have been a couple mobos with DDR2 and DDR3 compatibility but that is not one of them. Are you sure about that product number?

And with regards to your question, 4 GB is enough for your needs with DDR2 or DDR3.