OT: You guys always solve my problems...

[Overkiller]

Hate to post this here but i've gotten nothing from Abit, abit's forums, hardocp forums (i know i know! i apologize!), or here....

Linky!

Besides..sooner its up an running...sooner DC will be as well

 

[RaySun2Be]

Here's an "I can't help but someone might" bump for ya!

 

[Robor]

As you know I've got the same motherboard. Time provided I'll be doing a case and HS/F swap later tonight. I'll let you know what it looks like to me.

 

[deerslayer]

Originally posted by: RaySun2Be
Here's an "I can't help but someone might" bump for ya!

 

[jarsoffart]

Thermalright SLK-947U Compatibility Information

Although it doesn't tell you how to remove the retention mechanism, it does say that it is not abnormal to have to remove the retention mechanism.

SLK-947U is designed to fit both AMD socket A as well as Intel P4-478 motherboards with and without the stock retention bracket that came with motherboard. So far, we have not found any boards not compatible with SLK-947U. If you've found any, we would appreciate if you could report them to here.

 

[RaySun2Be]

bump just in case this hasn't been resolved.

 

[Overkiller]

It has been resolved but i am having a nasty new problem...no solutions as of yet:



My processor idles @ 50C (still a bit high) and shoots up to past 80C when anything intensive occurs....this should not happen by any means b/c i'm using AS ceramique, SLK-947U, and a smart fan 2 @ full speed blowing INTO the HS as it says on the site....

Perhaps this is caused by a corrupt bios? i have no idea but i belkieve that the latest bios (Aug. 21,2003) is loaded on this computer..i need to get this fixed b/c after all i bought this system to be well....fast. and if i am stuck doing only simple tasks then why did i pay so much for it...

I've reset, cleaned off, re-applied everything 2x already and the problem persists...any ideas? The AS ceramique is not applied to heavy (bad!) or too lightly (also bad!) so i just ...do not know! any ideas?

 

[SinfulWeeper]

Did you follow AS's directions to the letter? If not cooling is severly effected.
<--- Noticed a 8C° drop when done properly.

Also isotropil alcohol is rather laborsome to get it all off. Use acetone instead. Works better, costs less, easier to find, and can get you high if you smell enough of it

 

[SinfulWeeper]

err... wait a second. I thought you were using ASII or ASIII. Disregard my comment. I never used that stuff yet so I could not say how to remove/apply.

And to my standards of cooling 50C is too high. Although that is within Intel's spec. Just raise the temp setting or turn it off flat out unless you do start going beyond Intels heat standards.

 

[SinfulWeeper]

Here

"Thermal spec. 75°C"
Your setting is a little low.

ahh... for some reason I can not read tonight. I thought your load temps were @ 50. You had best get this straitened out as 80 can hurt it.
BTW, what other types of cooling is in your box? Thugs & I like cool running computers with little noise. His idea of a little is a little louder than mine. But we both cool well while maintaining overall quietness.

 

[mechBgon]

It sounds to me like your heatsink isn't making proper contact with the CPU's heatspreader. Double-check your stacking order on all the parts involved in holding the heatsink to the mobo.

 

[Overkiller]

The Heatsink is making proper contact to the heat spreader. the HS cannot go any lower and the fit is nice and tight. i also rrecently removed the HSF and processor, cleaned both off, re-applied the ceramique in a very thin layer...same issue. Idle temp is around 55C, under 100% usage it shoots up to 80C....

In my system i have 1 - 120 MM fan blowing in, 1 - 120MM fan blowing out, the smart fan 2 blowing DOWN into the heatsink, 1 power supply fan taking air from above the cpu in, and 1 power supply fan blowing out.

System temp is @ 23 C

 

[mechBgon]

Hmm, I wonder if the P4's integrated heat spreader could've lost contact with the CPU core underneath it. Does the system act as if it really is running at 80C (ie, it starts to run very sluggishly due to thermal throttling)? Got any other Socket478 processors you could try?

 

[Overkiller]

that's just it...i put on throttling @ 75% and ran DC until the overheating warning sirens went off...loaded up CPU-Z and the processor still showed to be running @ 2.8 ghz...so obviously throttling was not kicking in.

odd!

 

[Freewolf]

Have you checked your volts to the cpu to be sure the MB is sending the proper amount of voltage for that cpu and have you checked the surface of the heat sink ?

 

[Robor]

Maybe try a different HS/F combo? I know we talked in PM and I went with the new Zalman and it couldn't be simpler to install and get a nice tight fit. Hardest part was removing the retail HS/F.

 

[Overkiller]

The processor is read as a 1.525V chip in bios but (also in Bios and in Cpu-Z) the chip is actually only getting 1.47-1.48V.

A different HSF combo...but mine was $50 and now i'm broke

[Edit] and the Heat sink does get very hot so there is a healthy transfer of heat i be led to imagine, no?

 

[Freewolf]

I had a problem one time where the fan would run just fine when I booted up the machine but as the hs started heating up the fan would quit running which of course make the cpu overheat

 

[Overkiller]

After a bit of finicking around...

The fan appears to be @ full speed (well at least i think it is..lol) but in the bios it reads:
CPU Fan: 0 RPM
OTES Fan: 4600RPM
Northbridge Fan: 4600RPM


Now the funny thing is that the cpu fan is plugged into the CPU fan connector on the motherboard....could this perhaps be an indication of something wrong..such as a corrupt bios? (although the HS DOES get very hot...i just dont know..so mad :| !!!)

[Edit]

Yet more interesting occurences:

I played some SOF2 for about an hour, ran about 5 apps at once..nothing too cpu intensive but definietly more than *idle*...i restart and for giggles i look in the bios...the temperature reads 47C...so i let it idle there in bios. in the course of 3 minutes the temperature shoots up to 62C and climbing. it appears that the more i leave it the higher the temperature will go...

 

[Overkiller]

More fun:

Idling around 43C, been doing SOB for about 10 minutes, just restarted..temps @ *82C*....

Upon original start SOB was @ 656K cems/S....Thermal throttling is ON...Hyperthreading is ON...only 1 instance of SOB running...

SOB is now @ 560K cems/s and FALLING (which makes sense, its only using 50% of the cpu..so only 1.4 ghz theoretically)..cpu-Z is open and shows no sign of thermal throttling...

:sigh: Should've gotten a barton

 

[lobadobadingdong]

a couple of questions. is the heatsink pretty warm to the touch when the sensor says the cpu is at 80C?
the mobo may not be reading the fans speed if the fan doesn't have a feedback for the mobo to detect and it's quite common with both high and low end fans.
it's possible your processor may have something wrong with the core, if it's still under warranty you can always try an rma replacement and see if that makes a difference.
also did you lap down the heatsink to a mirror shine with some high grit sand paper before installation? (I've personlly seen that make a 8C difference in temps, especially w/copper heatsinks, although 72C would still seem a bit high)

 

[Overkiller]

The heatsink is burning hot when the mobo says its 80C. I'm thinking either something is definetlely wrong w/ my installation (lol, not possible i assure you ) or i have a bad chip. I am buying a Zalman ALCU probably next week and if that doesn't fix it i have to do the dreaded rma and hope for the best...