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OT: Software selling question

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MoFunk

Diamond Member
Hi guys, I just had a little question that I am not sure about. Yesterday I went to a reseller/vender computer show and "won" a copy of Windows 2000 server with 10 user licenses. Well I don't need it. My company says that they may buy it from me but they will have to tell me next week when they can review if they need the licenses. Question is this, if they do not buy it, is it sellable? It says promo version only not for resell on the front so I kinda doubt it but thought I would ask anyway. Thanks.

 
promo version only not for resell

I'd say that's fairly self-explanatory.. what's to understand?
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hmmm....maybe if you don't "sell" it but "gift" it to some other teammates that need some extra copies of Win for their crunchers.😉 --I don't need a copy but I've seen mention of it from other team members...just a thought.
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Mardeth

Well right now I have 4 machines at home and I might do a business and it would be nice to have a setup of 10 machines and have that problem done with. (XP pro only allows for 5 machines???) I don't know if I can use linux and samba and get around the license problem?
Redhats webbrowser has compatibility problems cause people don't follow standards or whatever using obselete old code so surfing is a pain at times.
Second I would love to have the server version and take it apart. I do admit that it has lots of holes to patch.
Also Windows XP pro doesn't allow for subdomains i.e. service.advancedhelp.org it only allows for one address and that would basicly be the www.advancedhelp.org. Right now I have to use Apache to get subdomains.

I've spent so many hours behind M$ thats sorta all I know. I have a Nforce board and it won't work with Linux so I'm back to hardware compatibility problems. I have a K7s5a and redhat 7.2 the sound won't work and after I fought with it so much to get the IP working I'm afraid to try installing 7.3 on the machine so thats why I got the nforce.
Hardware is inexpensive its the OS M$ thats so expensive!!!

muttley
 
I think there's some confusion here.. XP allows for "5 hardware configurations", NOT "5 seperate licences"!

Example: I install XP on a PC, register it, everything's fine. Then, a week later, I install a spiffy new DVD drive - now it's on the 2nd hardware configuration. A week later, I add a CD-Writer - that's the 3rd hardware configuration, etc. Upon reaching the 6th configuration, it's time to get another license of XP.
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Buying (1) license of XP does NOT mean you're allowed to install it ONCE on FIVE different machines!

FWIW, I personally have no intention of installing XP on anything, :disgust: but let's do make sure we understand what's going on. We definitely don't need anyone getting in trouble here. 😉


 
Originally posted by: networkman
I think there's some confusion here.. XP allows for "5 hardware configurations", NOT "5 seperate licences"!

Example: I install XP on a PC, register it, everything's fine. Then, a week later, I install a spiffy new DVD drive - now it's on the 2nd hardware configuration. A week later, I add a CD-Writer - that's the 3rd hardware configuration, etc. Upon reaching the 6th configuration, it's time to get another license of XP.
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Buying (1) license of XP does NOT mean you're allowed to install it ONCE on FIVE different machines!

FWIW, I personally have no intention of installing XP on anything, :disgust: but let's do make sure we understand what's going on. We definitely don't need anyone getting in trouble here. 😉
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Well if that's the case, I neva evah gonna buy XP. I wonder how the people on the hardware sites live with these facts.
 
networkman

what I was meaning was that with XP pro I thought that I read in the EULA that you could only link on a network with XP pro 5 machines together and that any more required the server licenses.

Can someone clarify.

muttley
 
Originally posted by: muttley
networkman

what I was meaning was that with XP pro I thought that I read in the EULA that you could only link on a network with XP pro 5 machines together and that any more required the server licenses.

Can someone clarify.

muttley
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When i was at a LAN party a week or so back, there was 7 of us there, and 6 were running XP. All were able to communicate on the LAN.

The "confusion" coming in here is this:


Windows 2000 Pro and Windows XP will only allow 10 (maybe 5? 😱) connections to it (even if that's all from one client) on the TCP/IP stack. This means web server/ftp server/Windows File Sharing/whatever that uses TCP/IP. Windows 2000 Server will allow however many connections it wants, but up to the number of separate clients it is licenced for, in this case 10.

This means that you can have up to 10 independant clients connecting to the W2KS machine at one time, and each one can have as many connections as is required.



Although i could be completely wrong, that is how i have interpreted what i have heard over the past couple of years.


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Originally posted by: networkman
I think there's some confusion here.. XP allows for "5 hardware configurations", NOT "5 seperate licences"!

Example: I install XP on a PC, register it, everything's fine. Then, a week later, I install a spiffy new DVD drive - now it's on the 2nd hardware configuration. A week later, I add a CD-Writer - that's the 3rd hardware configuration, etc. Upon reaching the 6th configuration, it's time to get another license of XP.
rolleye.gif
Buying (1) license of XP does NOT mean you're allowed to install it ONCE on FIVE different machines!

FWIW, I personally have no intention of installing XP on anything, :disgust: but let's do make sure we understand what's going on. We definitely don't need anyone getting in trouble here. 😉
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And, as for this, again that is not entirely true (and the below is just my interpretation of it all 🙂)

When you install/activate Windows XP, it creates a unique number, which is based on a few major bits of the computer. These (iirc) are motherboard, processor type, hard drive and to a lesser extent the other periphiral devices. Once these major things change (you change motherboard for example), then it notices that there has been a significant change (maybe it thinks the hdd was moved/copied to another machine?) and says that you need to contact MS to re-activate. IIRC, you can do this 2-3 times every 6 months.

I think the way most hardware enthusiasts have gone around this is to use the Corporate version with a valid CD key (or maybe even the Devils0wn?) so they don't have to reactivate all the time, or they don't use XP! 🙂

I can honestly say that when XP was released...before XP was released, i had the Corporate version with the Devils0wn key. I used it for a little while to see how i like it, then i went out and bought it. No point in spending £200+ on something that i might not like! Even after that, i still used the Corporate version to install (cos i do like to reinstall often, and change hardware) but used the CD Key from the bought version. That way i don't/won't damage the original, and i don't have to activate it every time i want to change something or reinstall cos i've slowed down an install cos of all the crap i've installed to it!



Just my thoughts on these issues 🙂


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