OT one of my X6 machines just died

[Uppsala9496]

Race is over so I thought I would start messing with my overclock a little more.
Had installed the antec kuhler 620 on the machine last night. Good installation on the heatsink. THings ran last night just fine.
This morning in my infinate wisdom I decided to see how high I could clock things. Bumped the numbers stupidly high for the hell of it. Was at 3.9ghz. THings ran for about 20 minutes, and next thing I know, the computer is dead. Ripped apart another machine to get the psu out thinking maybe I was unlucky and my psu died (it's a new seasonic). Nope.
Now I have to take apart two machines to test the mobo and processor separatly on the good one to see exactly what the issue is.
No fan spinning when I swapped psu's.

Might be making a trip to microcenter at 11 when they open. The wife is going to kill me.

 

[sandorski]

Did you Reset the BIOS?

 

[Uppsala9496]

Processor works on the other machine. So, that leads me to believe it is just the mobo.
It was one of the "free" gigabyte ones from the microcenter deal, so if it is dead I won't be horribly upset.

 

[Uppsala9496]

Mobo is dead. Took out the cmos battery, reset, and still nothing.
So, I managed to kill my mobo by attempting too much of an overclock. First time that has ever happened. Wouldn't the silly thing just shut down and be done with it?

Microcenter is about a 30 minute trip each way. I do have a tigerdirect/compusa about 10 minutes away. Might have to see if they have any decently priced mobo's. Otherwise, a trip to microcenter for a combo might be the way to go.

 

[blckgrffn]

Mobo is dead. Took out the cmos battery, reset, and still nothing.
So, I managed to kill my mobo by attempting too much of an overclock. First time that has ever happened. Wouldn't the silly thing just shut down and be done with it?

Microcenter is about a 30 minute trip each way. I do have a tigerdirect/compusa about 10 minutes away. Might have to see if they have any decently priced mobo's. Otherwise, a trip to microcenter for a combo might be the way to go.

Happy and sad then - 960t!

Looking at that GB board, which is an uber cheapy, I am guessing the power delivery on it could not handle what that cpu was pulling. I have been very happy wth the MSI upgrade board which seems to have a more robust set of components. Only AM3 though and lm-sensors has been impossible for me to get working so far.

Are you still within thirty days? You may be able to just swap the mobo, my Microcenter has a sixty day policy butthat sounds like a MN only thing. So you have Compusa, MC and Frys all available to you? Jerk!

 

[Uppsala9496]

On the 1055t machine I am outside the 30 days. The 960t machine which has rev 4.0 of the board is within 30 days.
I might just buy the same board from amazon since it is under $60 and then I just won't go for such a big OC.

The good news out of all of this is I can get my AII X3 back up and running. I was going to get that machine up and running later next week when the case and psu I ordered for it show up. I'll run it now and then get the 960T up later next week when I get a replacement mobo (going to take the mobo from the 960T and use it with the 1055T).

Hopefully I'll have 4 computers running this afternoon. Going to just do a clean install of ubuntu on the X3 since this will be the 3rd mobo/cpu swap on that hard drive.

 

[Uppsala9496]

On a side note, if anyone is curious, the thermaltake v3 case will NOT fit the antec kuhler 620. None of the 4 120mm/140mm fan locations will fit the radiator.
Last night turned into a 6 hour project of swapping cases for 2 machines.

 

[Uppsala9496]

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[VirtualLarry]

Processor works on the other machine. So, that leads me to believe it is just the mobo.
It was one of the "free" gigabyte ones from the microcenter deal, so if it is dead I won't be horribly upset.

I came across some info, that indicated that those "free" Gigabyte 78LM-S2P or whatever they are boards, only support 95W processors, NOT the 125W that Microcenter indicates.

Apparently, the rev 3.1 boards did support 125W, with 4+1 VRMs, but the version 4.0 revision which is the current revision that MC is selling, is only 3+1 VRMs and 95W.

This might explain why yours burned out.

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboard-vrm-information-list

 

[Uppsala9496]

Thanks for the info.
It is a rev 3.1 that went on me, so it's strange.

Guess I will have to look for another board. Making me think I should have spent the extra $20 each time and gotten the MSI board.

EDIT: That also explains why I have been having one heck of a time getting back to my original overclock. I can't get back to the 3.5 I had. Getting a little frustrated at this point.

 

[blckgrffn]

Huh, well, I guess I should look under my desk and check out what version of the GB board the 1045t is on. Upspending on the AM3 only boards seems like it was an OK decision after all... I was regretting it a bit until I realized just how cheap the GB board was. heh, according to the link Larry provided, the MSI board is only 3+1 as well - but rated for 140W CPUs? At least it has a VRM heatsink It appears that I won't be stretching the legs on those CPUs much further... I am at peace with that since I only like to do OC's with stock voltage or just a touch more.

To be clear, I am a huge GB user. I'd take a picture for proof, but suffice to say I have something like nine GB motherboard boxes from the last year and those MSI boards are the first non-GB boards I have purchased in maybe two years. Only because GB has been slow with EFI support and that is important to Windows 8 have a recently been recommending other brands (like ASUS) to others.

I wonder if this uber-cheapy is some sort of Microcenter special...

lol, so where is the darn rev number printed on the board? I just wasted a couple minutes hunched down under my desk

 

[Uppsala9496]

The rev number is tucked on the side on the bottom part of the board where the io panel is. If you are looking at it in your case, it should be in the lower left corner.

So my rev 3.1 died. I installed my 1055t on the rev 4.01 board, but shut it down and will wait until I get a replacement this week.
Wondering if I should pull the 555 callisto off the rev 3.1 board and put it on the rev 4.0 board and put the 690T zosma on the 3.1?
Pain in the rear to do it, but may be a wise move. Thoughts?

 

[somethingsketchy]

I'm wondering why you would drop the quad core CPU into the 3.1 board. Considering you mentioned how much of a PITA it would be to swap CPUs, I'd leave them be.

 

[Uppsala9496]

The only reason I thinking it might be a good idea is the 1055 will be getting a new board this week.
The 960 is currently without a board.
I have a rev 4.0 and rev 3.1 board. Right now the X2 is on the 3.1. It's only an 80w callisto. Wondering if it might be safer to run that on the weaker rev 4.0 board and run the 960 on the "better" rev 3.1.

A mobo swap is a pain, but I really don't have anything going on today. It's quiet and sure beats doing laundry or dishes.

 

[somethingsketchy]

Hahaha, I hear ya. In that case, as long as the rev 3.1 board's PWM can handle the 960, I'd say "why not".

 

[Uppsala9496]

Here is the new dilemma.

I ordered a replacement board that will be showing up today.
Do I return it ($125 through amazon, so returns are nice and simple) and spend the $200 on an FX8120 from MC? $215.50 after tax, so I'm spending about $100 more. Are BD's any good with DC projects?

 

[blckgrffn]

Here is the new dilemma.

I ordered a replacement board that will be showing up today.
Do I return it ($125 through amazon, so returns are nice and simple) and spend the $200 on an FX8120 from MC? $215.50 after tax, so I'm spending about $100 more. Are BD's any good with DC projects?

Here's the deal, I believe. You are looking at the performance of an x6 over all at any given clock speed due to the reduction in IPC per core. Perhaps a 10-15% increase in power consumption as well.

BUT.

AVX is going to be a bigger and bigger deal, I think. On the SB processors in the last race, it made my Dad's 2500k @ 3.4 Ghz worth about 9 Thuban Cores @ 3.4 Ghz. BD has AVX and this should bring some gains, potentially huge.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-5.html

Right there, and easy and cool 66% gain in int throughput. All of a sudden you are going to get much better performance in optimized projects, and given the the throughput increase (30-50% per cycle) AVX brings to the table it is hard to imagine that it will not be a target for many DC projects to take advantage off.

I want you to buy the FX combo and let us know how it goes and scales with OCing That said:

Sadly, and I mean Sadly, you would be better off paying the extra ~$20 and walking out of MC with a 2500k combo.

It looks like in WCG that my Dad's 2500k is handing it to my 1045t @ 3.1Ghz as as well, taking ~4:40 to finish a WU versus ~6:30 on the x6. AVX is only going to make that worse.

On the power consumption side, the FX is going to dissipate 30-70% more power and so cooling it quietly will just be that much bigger of a challenge. I am guessing that water cooling you have will be put to the test

That gigabyte UD3 board is really nice though... but you'd need a video card. Z68/2500k would have you covered.

 

[Uppsala9496]

I would be retiring my 555BE and pulling the GTS 450 from it.
I did just get my X3 425 up and running last night. Was going to bring that to my parents summer cottage and use it as an HTPC. Maybe I would retire that and put the 555BE in place of it.

 

[geecee]

I was looking at that MC deal as well. An 8-core BD with a two pci-e graphics slots (16X, 4X) on the free Gigabyte board.

From what I see online, most people have been disappointed with BD folding performance - about 13-18k ppd doing SMP depending on OS, setup and WU. There are some who report higher, but those might be atypical.

Most of these ppd numbers are from various forum postings, so no idea how accurate any of them are.

 

[Uppsala9496]

I am torn if I should pull the trigger or not.
I want to, but I'm not sure if it is worth it. I just can't buy intel. Have to root for the underdog.

On the MC deals where it is just one per household, that is just for that particular item correct? I could theoretically get an FX8120 bundle and FX6100 bundle under the same account/address and not have any issues?

 

[geecee]

I am torn if I should pull the trigger or not.
I want to, but I'm not sure if it is worth it. I just can't buy intel. Have to root for the underdog.

On the MC deals where it is just one per household, that is just for that particular item correct? I could theoretically get an FX8120 bundle and FX6100 bundle under the same account/address and not have any issues?

I believe so. I added an Intel bundle and an AMD bundle to may cart (just to compare, I'm not made of money ) and they both came up with the bundle pricing.

 

[Uppsala9496]

UPS will be here in 2 hours (I think). So if I leave now, I will get to MC and back.
I still can't convince myself to get the 8120 though.
I like the "free" gigabyte board though. Guess I could get the bundle and sell the 8120 if I don't like it. Then I can return the board from amazon and get my $125 back. Might actually get ahead of the deal if I do that.

 

[blckgrffn]

It's an honor system as far as I can tell. I haven't done it but there is nothing to stop you from going in there on different days and picking up the bundle again.

Furthermore, I would say every time the advertisement comes out you are in the clear to get the same bundle again if it is still advertised. It's like different rebate periods for the same product in my view.

I want to see what that 8120 @ ~4 Ghz does for your crunching/folding

*go*, what are you waiting for?

 

[Uppsala9496]

Ok, just made it back.
Now time to put 3 machines together. Going to see what the 8120 can do. Hopefully I'll have it up and running this evening. I know Win7 isn't going to like me since this will be the third mobo in as many days. It'll be a phone activation for sure.

And of course I need to flash to the most recent bios before I can get the fx up and running. Ugh. WHat a pain.

 

[Sunny129]

I know Win7 isn't going to like me since this will be the third mobo in as many days. It'll be a phone activation for sure.

rofl...