OT:Check in the Politics Forum for latest on State Super DMCA Laws

dmcowen674

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The State of Georgia will be having a meeting on passing it's version of a State Super DMCA. This is the same law that was already passed by 11 States with more passing everyday.


Here is the exact wording of the Georgia Super DMCA.

Georgia State Super DMCA Law

It supercedes the Law that the State used to go after me. If you think that Law was insane this new super sized version makes the old version look like a pansy.

"The court may order injunctive relief without requiring proof that the plaintiff lacks an adequate remedy at law and has suffered or will suffer actual damages or irreparable harm."

This Law says in Black and White the Plaintiff does not require any proof whatosoever to seize the Computer and assets of anyone they claim is violating this Law. In other words never mind "Guilty until proven Innocent". The word proven has been stricken out, it is you are just guilty if someone feels like you are.

Also you can forget about getting your Computer back, it will be destroyed by the Prosecution or given to the Telephone Company or ISP.

"Upon the conviction of any person for a violation of any provisions of Code Section 46-5-2 or 46-5-3, such instrument, apparatus, equipment, device, plan, or instruction shall be either destroyed as contraband by the sheriff of the county in which such person was convicted or turned given over to the telephone company or telecommunication communication service provider in whose territory service area such instrument, apparatus, equipment, device, plan, or instruction was seized."

I realize there may not be much if anything we can do to stop these Non-Technology Knowledged people from passing Laws they are pressured into passing but there should at least bwe someone or a Committee in place that Reviews or Consults with any Prosecutorial interests and has the power to stop these people from embarking down a path they should not be going down.

In my case there was a Professor from the University of Georgia that contributed to the wording of the Statute and Policies of the State of Georgia sent an E-mail to the Attorney General stating to him he did not feel my case was a case they should be using as a criminal case and they went ahead anyway ignoring the people that gave them the document from which they were moving forward on.

On a Federal Level there is the Position of Chief Technologist to the President. At the time of my case that individual came to my aid and did all he could from the Federal level. There needs to be a person with that authority in every State. I'm not one that promotes too much Government but when people's live's are at stake then it is a neccessary extra burden. The State wasted over 18 months of Georgia Taxpayer money on something they admittedly never fully learned all about in all that time yet still went forward on prosecutuing. At least if a Review process is put in place maybe such waste can be prevented in the future.

This is what I will be saying today before the Georgia Legislature.

David


http://www.interz0ne.com/information/con_schedule/

First time talking in public about what happened. Just myself this Sunday, in September Donna and David Joyner will join me for a couple of conferences at DragonCon in Atlanta in September.

Update: 4-14-2003

Hi everybody,

Well it was my first and maybe last Convention I will speak at. It is possible that no one will ever speak at a Convention ever again, at least in the United States. The Government (Dekalb County on behalf of the Federal Government) served the Operator of the Convention a Cease and Desist Order. It is a shift from shooting the message to shooting the messenger. It is like going after Georgia Pacific for making paper that people write things on.

Yes, I said Hello to attending Government people too. I will post info about the 1 Hr Tape when it becomes available, turns out I knew one of the guys on the Video Crew from my old Hayes Modems days, he used to work with the Marketing Dept folks.

Here are links to what happened:
Interz0ne II Cease and Desist Order
Interz0ne II Cease and Desist Order

Schedule of when David spoke
Schedule of when David spoke

About 200 people attended this Convention.

PS - Also just a thought, I feel there should be a Law and Polictics Forum after the War in Iraq is declared over as more of more of these issues affect the Computer and Internet Online Community. Very soon Forums such as this will be the next target by the Government to be served a cease and desist order and declared as illegal.

 

DanC

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Be on the lookout for the Gestapo... They'll probably be there.

You don't still have like - a "gag order" or anything do you?
Are you legally able to talk about what buffoons these gonads are?
 

Confused

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Good luck, David! :D

Hopefully someone will have a video camera, and can convert it to a little MPG or AVI file for us, because I for one would like to see this, even if i can't be there in person, I'll be there in spirit for you. :)


Take care!

Garry
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: DanC
Be on the lookout for the Gestapo... They'll probably be there.

You don't still have like - a "gag order" or anything do you?
Are you legally able to talk about what buffoons these gonads are?

I spoke to my Attorney David Joyner about it. The only time I was technically under "Gag order" was the week before the Court Date to seal the Agreement the State came up with. Also I was not to have anything to do with Computers or Technology during the Probation which is now long done and have a letter stating so.

In my opening address I will give Salutations to attending FBI, GBI and any other "Officials" that may be present :D
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Confused
Good luck, David! :D

Hopefully someone will have a video camera, and can convert it to a little MPG or AVI file for us, because I for one would like to see this, even if i can't be there in person, I'll be there in spirit for you. :)

Take care!

Garry

Thanks Ray and Garry.

That's a good question about Video. I'll bring my A-40 along, it can only take 30 sec Video clips though.

 

DanC

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In my opening address I will give Salutations to attending FBI, GBI and any other "Officials" that may be present

BWAH! Please wave to them for me/us. And... don't use all your fingers. :Q
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: DanC
BWAH! Please wave to them for me/us. And... don't use all your fingers. :Q
Hahahahahahahaha! Good one Dan! :D

Good luck with the speach David. Nice to see you getting your story out there. I have a feeling most people who hear it are going to say, "you've gotta be f'ing kidding me"!
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DanC

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I STILL don't bloody believe what they tried to do to him. :disgust:

On the bright side - most of the goons have fallen into virtual obscurity. (as it should be)
with the possible exception of Thurbie - who will have his day. :evil:

edit:
I HATE the new emoticons. :confused:
 

Karsten

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Come on... someone must have a Video Cam available for D's speach.
I'll convert and host it on my site if we find a filming volunteer!
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: DanC
BWAH! Please wave to them for me/us. And... don't use all your fingers. :Q
Hahahahahahahaha! Good one Dan! :D
Agreed. :p
Good luck with the speach David. Nice to see you getting your story out there. I have a feeling most people who hear it are going to say, "you've gotta be f'ing kidding me"!
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Sad but true. This is the kind of stuff that you think you read in a fiction horror novel, until you realize that it's real. :disgust:

Unfortunately I won't be able to be there in person, but like Confused said, I'll be there in spirit for you. Good luck with the speech. :)
 

Wolfie

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Good luck dave. Let us know how it goes. How many people show up, and stuff like that.

Wolfie
 

JWMiddleton

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David,

We spent a good deal of the day together on Thursday and you never mentioned this! :Q I hope it goes very well for you! :)

BTW: We made the offer on the Grayson house and they countered, we re-countered and they accepted. So, that one is a go!
 

DanC

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Originally posted by: JWMiddleton
David,

We spent a good deal of the day together on Thursday and you never mentioned this! :Q I hope it goes very well for you! :)

BTW: We made the offer on the Grayson house and they countered, we re-countered and they accepted. So, that one is a go!

we re-countered and they accepted. So, that one is a go!

HEY! Congratulations, John! :D
 

bot2600

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I am off on Sunday and Monday, I may make a run down to watch the show, is there a fee to get in? Dave, PM me some directions...
 

Assimilator1

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Originally posted by: DanC
In my opening address I will give Salutations to attending FBI, GBI and any other "Officials" that may be present

BWAH! Please wave to them for me/us. And... don't use all your fingers. :Q

LOL:D

Give it to 'em Dave:D

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: bot2600
I am off on Sunday and Monday, I may make a run down to watch the show, is there a fee to get in? Dave, PM me some directions...

Wow, Bob, Charotte would be an at least a 3 1/2 hr run down to Northlake Radisson Hotel. It is right near where I-85 and I-285 meet. Get off at big I-285 interchange and goe East (Towards Macon, wacky signs it should say South) and get off at Northlake exit which is 2 exits down, very close to each other. The Radisson is near the exit itself. I have to pull up a Yahoo Map myself to see which building it is but sure it cn't be missed.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: bot2600
I am off on Sunday and Monday, I may make a run down to watch the show, is there a fee to get in? Dave, PM me some directions...

I'm not sure on cost but I would tell them you are a guest speaker with me and you really are as you stayed here especially during the filming as you were part of the people like John that actually came to the house in physical support. You are part of the story besides for what you did with the awesome programming, sting with that Website Forum.

So many people helped making it an incredible journey even though it was a journey that should've never gone as far as it did.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: JWMiddleton
David,

We spent a good deal of the day together on Thursday and you never mentioned this! :Q I hope it goes very well for you! :)

BTW: We made the offer on the Grayson house and they countered, we re-countered and they accepted. So, that one is a go!

Congrats John! :) You'll still be living closer to us :)

Well, Donna and I have been debating about it. She doesn't want me to go as it seems to be geared towards people that may actually do bad things with the Computer and Internet (Hackers?) but they asure me it is more just diehard Computer enthusiasts and programmers. Last year was their first year (I was invited but certainly didn't go under Probation) and nothing happened as far as FBI etc like what happened in Las Vegas where they arrested the Elcomsoft Russian E-book Programmer.
 

Spacehead

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Originally posted by: JWMiddleton
David,
BTW: We made the offer on the Grayson house and they countered, we re-countered and they accepted. So, that one is a go!

So when's the housewarming! :p



Good luck to ya Dave :)