OSX? Your thoughts?

[BowDown]

I think it will be the best OS to hit the market in a long time. Esspicialy considering it's a hybrid of Unix and Linux (best of both features).

Oh ya, only for Mac .

 

[Trimper]

I am all for giving OS X a chance - I am just waiting for someone to donate, well like a G3 or 4 for me to experiment with.

Impressive looking.

 

[Cknyc]

I want it to be released on x86 machines. There is no way im going to caugh up all that dough that apple wants for one of their machines. You cant tool with it either so whats the use?

 

[bubba]

I like it. The GUI is too graphics.processor hungary for me though. But then again I am the kind of guy who runs WindowMaker or XFCE instead of Gnome or KDE.

 

[jhu]

it's not a hybrid of unix and linux. it's a mutation of freebsd

 

[reitz]

Too little, too late.

 

[BowDown]

Hmm... or was it FreeBDS and Unix... I know Unix is in that mix somewhere.

I'm going to buy the Public Beta of it and try it out on a seperate HD. But until they get a reasonable amount of backwards compatibility I'm not going to make it my sole OS.

Hehe... By the way, I'm typing from Windows 2000 Pro running on my Mac in a Window. This is some phat stuff...

 

[Diffusion]

It is not a hybrid of freebsd, it is a desendant of BSD 4.4, just like freeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD etc. That makes it a true Unix, I don't believe it is based on Linux what soever. But thats just what I know. I hear apples trying to push it as being derived from FreeBSD due to the speed with which FreeBSD runs, but it isn't.

 

[Workin']

Hah! If it can't run on my 33 MHz '040, who needs it? Mac sh!t is too darn expensive. But I have to admit it is pretty.

 

[BowDown]

Haha... 33mhz!

 

[FOBSIDE]

osx in my opinion sucks on the graphics level but its only at beta so ill hold my final call til later. even if it is a good os i dunno how many people are willing to fork out the cash for the hardware. although one plus is that since apple does all the hardware as well, you dont have to worry about hardware conflicts like in PCs.

 

[BowDown]

Ya... the conflict aspect is nice. But when one company does both they can't keep up as fast. Hence the G4's are only at 500 right now.

 

[BDawg]

Acually, it's just the BSD kernel. Apple is calling their compiliation, "Darwin." The look and feel, called "aqua," is based on NextStep's interface, which is still amazing.

And yes, since it's BSD, it's "real Unix..." not "fake Unix" like Linux.

I personally think it's going to be great. One of the most stable and useful OSes.

Too little, too late is not correct. Apple isn't trying to rule the world, just make money in their niche.

As for the speed limit of the G4 chips, it isn't Apple doing hardware and software thats causing it. They have little to do with chip mfg and design. What is thought to be the culprit is the Altivec enhancement, which speeds up many graphics calls, but limits the speed the chip can run stably. Supposedly, IBM has many of their G3s (IBM is not a supporter of Altivec) which run much faster.

 

[Diffusion]

Thats true, IBM had 900mhz G3s around a year ago, but apple wouldn't buy them because it would look bad to make all this hoopla about AltiVec, and then dump it 5 months down the road. Even the G4+ isn't having good yields, bta, not many of the non-x86 based chips do. The problem I have with apples hardware is price, they used to put together a real system, SCSI, etc. but now they essentially use PC hardware at workstation prices. If they sold their machines in midtower cases (as opposed to the G4s minitower) with SCSI drives and some PCI slots (3 is not quite enough) it would be a decent price, but at the prices they sell them, its preposterous.

 

[StuckMojo]

i hope it fulfills all the promises the ill fated rhapsody made...

i think the discussions of where it comes from are muddled...i think it really draws roots from NeXT, which is based on the mach kernel (as many *nixs are) and thus you can make an argument that it came from almost any flavor of unix. of course...they then slapped the macOS front end on top of the mach kernel...which could be really kewl...if they pulled it off.

 

[BowDown]

Ya... I'm using Aqua on my OS 8.6. I love the look and feel of it. I'm going to get ahold of the OSX Public Beta and try it out.

 

[GuardianAli]

Although the look of it is fantastic the thing i love about is the stuff in the background. Because it uses BSD, it is tons more stable, and the thing i love the most is the thing i hate on windows the most.
There is no memory leaks or memory fragmentation. It refreshes continuily and this no need to ever shut down the comp if u dont want to.