Ossama Bin Laden was not armed.

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JEDIYoda

Lifer
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While I am ecstatic that this evil person is no longer alive...
would the nutjobs who are celebrating his death, and are unconcerned by the murder please inform me why the murder is not condemned?
Even given that the whole world cast him as an evil person, he was not convincted of any crime. Hence
Does everyone not notice the obvious holes in the official story? Unarmed person, able to be captured, would pay for his crimes... heck, just having him behind bars could have been the biggest victory over Al-Qaeda, who would see their mentor, living behind bars, in an American prison!

Oh the irony...Routan is posting.....
no that bwoudld not have been the biggest vistory!!
Any way you look at the picture...if Osama was captured alive then how long before AQ captures Americans and offers a trade for their leader??
If Osama was captured alive and tried then the media circus would have been disaterous and IMO innocent people would be harmed.
Had Osama`s body been buried on land imagine the monuments and HERO status he would have been given??
It only made sense to bury him at sea in accordance with muslim burial practices....

So Routan what do you not understand about this whole Osama thing?

BTW -- nice trolling....
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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If OBL wanted to live he should have turned himself in. If a SEAL has to be send you get you, your chances aren't good. These guys aren't cops or other LEO, they're soldiers in a hostile environment.
 

M0RPH

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Really? Because every article I saw just say that he resisted, not that he was armed. Monday morning CNN specifically emphasised the 'resisted' comment made by 'White House' officials

The initial report was that he was killed in a firefight, which implies that he was armed.
 

Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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The initial report was that he was killed in a firefight, which implies that he was armed.

There very well could have been a firefight in the room with his bodyguards and he was killed in that firefight even though he was unarmed. Furthermore the term 'firefight' could have been used generally to describe the first part of the operation. You know - where there were firefights going on in the complex.

You assumed it ment he was armed and then tried to say we said he was armed - not to mention 'said' is different than 'implied'

It reflects poorly on you that you are changing your story :p
 

davmat787

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It reflects poorly on you that you are changing your story :p

Speaking of changing stories, anyone have a good guess why the story from the White House had to be changed? They knew the few people left alive would be debriefed by the beloved patriot's and their side of the story would come out.
 

woolfe9999

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I doubt we will ever hear it but I'd bet $1000 the team was ordered not to take him alive. Between the two options you have:

Take him alive:
Where will you imprison him ? gitmo ?
How will you do the trial ? who will be present ? Will it be public ?
What specific evidence is their and who will be his defense ?
All the political BS that would result.

Kill Him:
Questions about the mission and how it was handled

Killing him was the easiest way to handle it.

More than likely they weren't explicitly ordered to do so, but the ROE they were given, combined with their attitude toward the target, made it inevitable.
 

SlickSnake

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Ain't no way they trained for 10 MONTHS to take the compound to CAPTURE him, then shot him in the head unarmed. If all they wanted was to kill him, they wouldn't have waited 10 months to do so and given him the chance to escape in the meantime. He was full of vital intel and the chance to play lets make a deal with him would not have been up to some nameless grunt with a gun and body armor to shoot him in the head, unarmed.
 
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Zebo

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You guys realize we have teams just like this all over who take out people? Not to mention bombing of houses of suspected terrorists/militants? I don't see how this is even an issue. In war people are targeted for killing.

BTW what do you think a snipers job is? Invariably it's targeted killing of unarmed. I read a book about Carlos Hadcock from vietnam guy was a total bad-ass, crawling on his belly for days, sometimes an inch an hour into Vietnamese barracks and assassinating generals politicians and stuff had like 50 kills. We had them in Germany too and every war.
 
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bfdd

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are people seriously questioning why the death isn't condemned? He was an ENEMY COMBATANT. There is NO remorse for killing those who wish to kill you. Not to mention I refuse to feel bad that a douche bag isn't breathing the same air as I do any longer.
 

SlickSnake

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You guys realize we have teams just like this all over who take out people? Not to mention bombing of houses of suspected terrorists/militants? I don't see how this is even an issue. In war people are targeted for killing.

You just said it yourself, bombing of houses, and made my point. Furthermore, they would have had implicit instructions if they had to shoot him, to not make the shot fatal. If a grunt disobeyed those orders, he's likely to be court martialed and you would never hear about it.
 
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routan

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Oh the irony...Routan is posting.....
no that bwoudld not have been the biggest vistory!!
Any way you look at the picture...if Osama was captured alive then how long before AQ captures Americans and offers a trade for their leader??
If Osama was captured alive and tried then the media circus would have been disaterous and IMO innocent people would be harmed.
Had Osama`s body been buried on land imagine the monuments and HERO status he would have been given??
It only made sense to bury him at sea in accordance with muslim burial practices....

So Routan what do you not understand about this whole Osama thing?

BTW -- nice trolling....

what is ironic about me posting? Am I barred?
why would it not be a victory? because you said so?
the hostage-taking supposition has been commented about before.
media circus would be disastrous how? innocent people harmed how?
I have no opinion on his being buried on land or sea. I never raised the topic.

So JediYoda, what other suppose/would/could do you have to throw in the mix?

Ironic you of all people accusing other of trolling. o_O
 
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routan

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Speaking of changing stories, anyone have a good guess why the story from the White House had to be changed? They knew the few people left alive would be debriefed by the beloved patriot's and their side of the story would come out.

why would anyone believe Pakistani's story anyways?

also, it is quite interesting that those idiots had no clue two NON-PAKISTANI helicopters flew all the way within 150km to the Capital, and the military was sleeping.

Quite funny if you consider the flak they're taking for allegedly not knowing OBLs hideout. I would argue instead that they're utterly incompetent.
 

gingermeggs

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We give a shit. Fucker deserved worse than two bullets to the head.
Nice timing HEADLINE: OBAMMA whoops Osamma!
The Usa made Osamma who he was, he played the role they wished him to.
So what make this different to the lawless summary executions the Taliban where doing in Afghanistan, before the lawless American occupation of that country.
This is the worse outcome to have occurred for worldwide peace and economic stability, but I think it was the desired one for the sales of the American arms manufacturers, so that is why it is....MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.......a greedy, self concerned and sinister society.
Your brand "USA" worldwide is lower dirt, maybe you can say your a Canadian on holidays????
War is the only way out now, for an economy so indebted, your citizens are complicit and are all filthy blood suckers. Go to directly to hell upon your death!!!
 

OCGuy

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Nice timing HEADLINE: OBAMMA whoops Osamma!
The Usa made Osamma who he was, he played the role they wished him to.
So what make this different to the lawless summary executions the Taliban where doing in Afghanistan, before the lawless American occupation of that country.
This is the worse outcome to have occurred for worldwide peace and economic stability, but I think it was the desired one for the sales of the American arms manufacturers, so that is why it is....MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.......a greedy, self concerned and sinister society.
Your brand "USA" worldwide is lower dirt, maybe you can say your a Canadian on holidays????
War is the only way out now, for an economy so indebted, your citizens are complicit and are all filthy blood suckers. Go to directly to hell upon your death!!!

Mohammed isn't real.
 

gingermeggs

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Dec 22, 2008
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Oh the irony...Routan is posting.....
no that bwoudld not have been the biggest vistory!!
Any way you look at the picture...if Osama was captured alive then how long before AQ captures Americans and offers a trade for their leader??
If Osama was captured alive and tried then the media circus would have been disaterous and IMO innocent people would be harmed.
Had Osama`s body been buried on land imagine the monuments and HERO status he would have been given??
It only made sense to bury him at sea in accordance with muslim burial practices....

So Routan what do you not understand about this whole Osama thing?

BTW -- nice trolling....

So that makes breaking the Geneva convention that the USA itself setup, OK then???
It's a nasty precedence to make, now whats to stop other countries thinking the same way- ohhh we don't like this leader.....easy will top him!!!! Some thing that organized criminals would do really.
How do you make a jew cry? burn a dollar bill!

How do you get banned? Racial insults will do it. Take a few days off and relearn our forum posting rules.

Fern
Super Moderator
 
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gingermeggs

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Dec 22, 2008
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If OBL wanted to live he should have turned himself in. If a SEAL has to be send you get you, your chances aren't good. These guys aren't cops or other LEO, they're soldiers in a hostile environment.

can you repair this so its readable!
Leo like a lion???
lions of zion??????
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Pro Tip:

If you "resist" a SEAL, you are going to get capped. This is a fundamental Law of Nature, akin to Darwinism.


lol; OBL: Darwin award winner, 2011?

:sneaky:

He's already got the Hide and Seek world championship title.
 

xj0hnx

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Dec 18, 2007
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Nice timing HEADLINE: OBAMMA whoops Osamma!
The Usa made Osamma who he was, he played the role they wished him to.
So what make this different to the lawless summary executions the Taliban where doing in Afghanistan, before the lawless American occupation of that country.
This is the worse outcome to have occurred for worldwide peace and economic stability, but I think it was the desired one for the sales of the American arms manufacturers, so that is why it is....MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.......a greedy, self concerned and sinister society.
Your brand "USA" worldwide is lower dirt, maybe you can say your a Canadian on holidays????
War is the only way out now, for an economy so indebted, your citizens are complicit and are all filthy blood suckers. Go to directly to hell upon your death!!!

LOL, you need to tell you doc to up the Lithium.