Ossama Bin Laden was not armed.

[iGas]

We give a shit. Fucker deserved worse than two bullets to the head.

Perhaps it is like how we take care of Saddam Hussein, because Osama Bin Laden was an ally of the US who know too much regarding the US atrocities to be trial in court.

It is ashame that the world will never know what really happened between Sadam, Osama, and the US relationship in the last 4 decades.

 

[bfdd]

Well in a Oct 7 2008 debate Obama did promise to kill Bin Laden. He made no mention of capturing him. He was just keeping his word.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meater/promises/obameter/promise/901/we-will-kill-bin-laden/
“What I have said is we're going encourage democracy in Pakistan, expand our non-military aid to Pakistan so that they have more of a stake in working with us, but insisting that they go after these militants. And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida. That has to be our biggest national security priority.”

Holy shit, he actually accomplished something he said!


lol im just jk.

 

[Abwx]

Executing a known enemy, even if he is defenseless, is not as bad as killing thousands of innocent civilians. Do you really think they're the same?

.

This matter cant be discussed by people prone to emotional
behaviours.....
All we can say is that killing him rather than judging him
was seen as more beneficial politicaly.....

Perhaps it is like how we take care of Saddam Hussein, because Osama Bin Laden was an ally of the US who know too much regarding the US atrocities to be trial in court.

 

[bpatters69]

Now the white House says that Ossama Bin Laden was totally unarmed when shot in the head. Why was not he captured instead?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_l...NjdvBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwNTAzL3VzX2Jpbl9sYWRlb

Already international criticism is directed at the US. With some saying it is simply murder.
After all, with a few dozen Navy seals, Ossama fists create little resistance to overcome. They had already shot his unarmed wife in the leg for similar unarmed resistance.

Who GARA!!!!!

That piece of shit did not deserve any better. I certainly don't want him polluting our soil with his dead or live body. He can rot at the bottom of the sea.

 

[trenchfoot]

I suspect they're is more to this story. I really think they would have preferred to take him alive. I mean he would have been a great source of information. Those other high level guys gave up good intel it seems.

I kind'a think the opposite. I agree that he would have been a marvelous source of intel, BUT, with him alive I think there would have been many many attempts at freeing him by taking Americans hostage, especially persons of high rank, and by escalating mass murder terrorist attacks against the US and its allies to an unbearable degree. There probably will be retribution attacks by OBL loyalists, but not to the degree if he were still alive.

IMO, the order was given to make sure he was killed above all else. So much less trouble for all concerned that way.

 

[Bowfinger]

Now the white House says that Ossama Bin Laden was totally unarmed when shot in the head. Why was not he captured instead?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_l...NjdvBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwNTAzL3VzX2Jpbl9sYWRlb

Already international criticism is directed at the US. With some saying it is simply murder.
After all, with a few dozen Navy seals, Ossama fists create little resistance to overcome. They had already shot his unarmed wife in the leg for similar unarmed resistance.

While it may offend some, the simple truth is bin Laden would have been a huge liability as a living prisoner. His imprisonment would have been a rallying point for his followers. There would have been countless terrorist attacks and hostages taken to try to pressure the U.S. into releasing him, Frankly, even if we did capture him, we'd want to claim we killed him just to minimize retaliation.

 

[Bowfinger]

I kind'a think the opposite. I agree that he would have been a marvelous source of intel, BUT, with him alive I think there would have been many many attempts at freeing him by taking Americans hostage, especially persons of high rank, and by escalating mass murder terrorist attacks against the US and its allies to an unbearable degree. There probably will be retribution attacks by OBL loyalists, but not to the degree if he were still alive.

What he said.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Sadly, this forum is thinking mostly American views, the point is the Muslim and even the European world will likely be appalled with the news. As this admission has dragged the USA to exactly the same moral level as Ossama himself.

We know what viewpoint you were espousing and frankly, we don't care. It isn't President Obama's (or ANY US President's) mission to get approval from Europe and Muslim countries. His job is to pursue, first and foremost, the interests of the United States of America. Osama Bin Laden was the recipient of a far more humane and compassionate end than the end given to the thousands of people who were faced with the decision to jump from 100+ stories or being burned to death.

 

[cganesh75]

almost all the passengers in those airplanes that hit WTC and also all the people that died were unarmed too

 

[Balt]

Little Bill Daggett: Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!

Will Munny: Well, he should have armed himself.

No sympathy.

 

[Red Dawn]

I think you are mixed up.
The left generally love America due to the freedom of speech, freedom of religion, essentially, the right to try to make a life and enjoy it.

Terrorists are almost exclusively extreme far right wing types. Generally, terrorists do not like America, and they often love other terrorists.

That said, comparing terrorists to normal right wingers is a very strong exaggeration, but it's not nearly as far fetched as what you're saying in your post.

Al Qaeda and the Taliban are about as conservative as one could get.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Now the white House says that Ossama Bin Laden was totally unarmed when shot in the head. Why was not he captured instead?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_la...zX2Jpbl9sYWRlb

Already international criticism is directed at the US. With some saying it is simply murder.
After all, with a few dozen Navy seals, Ossama fists create little resistance to overcome. They had already shot his unarmed wife in the leg for similar unarmed resistance.

Who really gives a flyingpigs ass if he was or was not armed????

 

[JEDIYoda]

the point is the Muslim and even the European world will likely be appalled with the news.

Does anybody care??
Please speak up.......
Anyone??????

 

[Infohawk]

I kind'a think the opposite. I agree that he would have been a marvelous source of intel, BUT, with him alive I think there would have been many many attempts at freeing him by taking Americans hostage, especially persons of high rank, and by escalating mass murder terrorist attacks against the US and its allies to an unbearable degree. There probably will be retribution attacks by OBL loyalists, but not to the degree if he were still alive.

IMO, the order was given to make sure he was killed above all else. So much less trouble for all concerned that way.

You could have said the same thing about our other high profile captives. They haven't really been trying prisoner swaps for one reason or another. Also, they probably realize we wouldn't have given in. That's the payoff when you don't negotiate with terrorists.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

While it may offend some, the simple truth is Obama would have been a huge liability as a living prisoner. His imprisonment would have been a rallying point for his followers. There would have been countless terrorist attacks and hostages taken to try to pressure the U.S. into releasing him, Frankly, even if we did capture him, we'd want to claim we killed him just to minimize retaliation.

I've warned you for the last time. Stop making sense in P&N.

Hayabusa Rider.

Heh, just kidding-

To be sure you are correct, however let's do a thought experiment.

LL, I'm going to set the stage here so we have something besides "should or should not have"

You are in charge of the mission and are given latitude to make the decision to take Bin Laden alive or shoot him depending on the situation. Let's further assume that you are a professional and not driven by revenge, however leaving him alive is not one of your options.

In this scenario Bin Laden is in fact unarmed. At first look it's a simple matter. Seize and remove. Unfortunately that's not simple.

OBL isn't sitting in an isolated environment. Let's consider where he is. He is located in a heavily guarded building which isn't easily accessible. Further he is sitting in a militarized zone controlled by the ISI. Think Quantico.

You have one way of accomplishing the mission and that is to get in and out fast. If you do not the mission fails and you and your men die.

You have 20 seconds, perhaps a minute before mission failure.

How do you get Bin Laden out alive?

 

[Lemon law]

Who really gives a flyingpigs ass if he was or was not armed????

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Well JediY maybe exactly the question, because we don't yet know what the overall world
reaction will be.

 

[ThatsABigOne]

Only if I could do an autopsy on Osama and be productive at the same time while beating him with a baseball bat...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

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Well JediY maybe exactly the question, because we don't yet know what the overall world
reaction will be.

And why do we care what their reaction is? He was a mass murderer and no one sane will lose a wink of sleep.

 

[irishScott]

/waits for Lemon Law to grandstand about how the international community will no longer put up with US bullshit, turn on the US and impose international sanctions until the murdering US terrorists are brought to justice.

How dare we shoot mass murderers in the head!

 

[soulcougher73]

And? I dont care if he was sleeping. Shoot him in the head and be done with it.

 

[Rainsford]

As much as I hate to interrupt the totally reasonable debate going on here (right...), being "unarmed" isn't the same as not representing a threat to the SEALs. Maybe he was going for a gun that was close by, or trying to grab a weapon out of the hands of one of the SEALs. All in all though, I tend to trust that if the experts in the room viewed Osama as a threat (which is what the linked article says), I feel like I'm not really in a position to second guess them.

 

[Thump553]

It was designed as a kill mission from the start.

The rules of engagement were to capture IF he surrendered first, otherwise kill. OBL chose not to surrender. According to the evening news tonight he was shot as he was rushing the SEALs.

Seriously though you have to wonder about why in the world any US citizen would have wanted OBL captured. His trial would have been a huge, huge publicity boon for OBL and AQ and the remaining decades of his life in prison would have been a continually high risk for the US-esp. because the GOP would go hysterical if he was incarcerated in the USA.

 

[zinfamous]

So it can give leftists ammunition to spew their America hating, military hating, terrorist loving viewpoints. See OP. Obama catering to his base.

you're one of the most anti-American members of AT, Spidey.

You give Gayner a run for his money.

 

[a777pilot]

Now the white House says that Ossama Bin Laden was totally unarmed when shot in the head. Why was not he captured instead?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_l...NjdvBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwNTAzL3VzX2Jpbl9sYWRlb

Already international criticism is directed at the US. With some saying it is simply murder.
After all, with a few dozen Navy seals, Ossama fists create little resistance to overcome. They had already shot his unarmed wife in the leg for similar unarmed resistance.

Who cares? I think it great he is dead and that he knew it was Americans that killed him.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I suspect they're is more to this story. I really think they would have preferred to take him alive. I mean he would have been a great source of information. Those other high level guys gave up good intel it seems.

We could have used Bin Laden to set a record for "being subjected to the highest number of waterboardings."