OS X 10.11 El Capitan

mmntech · Sep 30, 2015

It's out and available for immediate download on the App Store. How's everyone liking it so far.

I just upgraded my geriatric Late 2008 MacBook. Everything went smooth as butter. No problems so far.

Things I like
-New San Francisco font looks great
-My apps definitely open up faster than on Yosemite. Everything feels smoother. I'm back to Mavericks level performance.
-Spotlight in natural languages works pretty well. Asked it for the document I was working on today and it pulled it up for me.

Things I don't like
-Split view is not intuitive. Not that it looks great to begin with on a 1280x800 screen, but having to go into Mission Control is a pain in the butt. Wasn't really obvious what I needed to do. Maybe I'm just an idiot. I'd much prefer window snapping though like on Windows and Linux.

Printer Bandit · Sep 30, 2015

How come the San Francisco font is not available to use in Mail?

Printer Bandit · Sep 30, 2015

Press and hold green maximize button to get into split view.

mmntech · Sep 30, 2015

Printer Bandit said:
Press and hold green maximize button to get into split view.

Thank you. Still prefer snapping though. :colbert:

postmortemIA · Sep 30, 2015

snapping must be patented?

catinthefurnace · Sep 30, 2015

mmntech said:
Thank you. Still prefer snapping though.

I personally can't stand snapping. I inadvertently activate it all the time. I probably won't accidentally press and hold the green button.

Eug · Sep 30, 2015

Was very slowly downloading, but then I reboot, and now it's back at zero and "Waiting" to download.

However, I did test the GM Release Candidate on a backup install before initiating this. Works fine. Seems a bit more refined, but overall feels similar. Actually, the only reason I'm upgrading so early (instead of at say 11.1 or 11.2) is because of Live Photos. El Capitan 11 brings native Live Photos support to Photos. But other than Live Photos being displayed as a separate photo and movie in Yosemite's Photos, they import fine.

I have also confirmed my Junos Pulse VPN software works, as does Aperture, and the printer driver for my Samsung ProXPress M3870 laser all-in-one.

poofyhairguy · Sep 30, 2015

I have been using the GM for a week. I love it. I was so so on Yosemite, this fixed a lot of my Yosemite complains.

catinthefurnace · Oct 1, 2015

El Cap is extremely fast so far. Download was slow as hell, but expected to an extent.

Bubbleawsome · Oct 1, 2015

I plan on upgrading my mom's 2010/2011-ish iMac. It's showing it's age with 4GB RAM and a mobile first-gen i5, and I'm hoping el captain helps it out some. It's positively dragging with yosemite

Printer Bandit · Oct 1, 2015

should i put el cap on a 2008 iMac? should i live dangerously?

Eug · Oct 1, 2015

Printer Bandit said:
should i put el cap on a 2008 iMac? should i live dangerously?

If it's got at least 4 GB RAM and if you're already on Yosemite then yes.

These do feel slower than say 10.7 though (but that's fixed with SSD).

mmntech · Oct 1, 2015

Hmm, mine actually downloaded quite fast. Took about an hour on my 25mb/s connection.

Printer Bandit said:
should i put el cap on a 2008 iMac? should i live dangerously?

My laptop specs
2.0ghz "Penryn" Core 2 Duo
4GB RAM
120 GB SSD

Runs fine. If your iMac has at least that, it will run fine too.

Eug · Oct 1, 2015

Any machine that can run El Capitan will run it well, if it has:

1) 4 GB RAM or more
2) SSD

If it just has a hard drive and 2 GB or less, then it will likely feel slow, but that's been true for the last several generations of OS X.

My Core Duo 2.0 GHz iMac with 2 GB RAM and 7200 rpm hard drive feels fine on 10.6 Snow Leopard, but unfortunately, 10.6 has too many limitations these days.

poofyhairguy · Oct 1, 2015

Eug said:
(but that's fixed with SSD).

And now you can install a third party SSD and get trim without a nasty hack. Probably my favorite new feature, that restriction REALLY pissed me off about Yosemite.

mmntech · Oct 1, 2015

poofyhairguy said:
And now you can install a third party SSD and get trim without a nasty hack. Probably my favorite new feature, that restriction REALLY pissed me off about Yosemite.

I think they thought it would discourage third party storage upgrades, or something stupid like that. Mavericks had proper TRIM support even if you had to enable it in the terminal.

poofyhairguy · Oct 1, 2015

mmntech said:
I think they thought it would discourage third party storage upgrades, or something stupid like that. Mavericks had proper TRIM support even if you had to enable it in the terminal.

And El Capitan's support is even better. I didn't put Yosemite on any of my machines that change made me so angry, but now I upgraded my Macbook and my hackitosh to 10.11.

SKORPI0 · Oct 1, 2015

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37487140&postcount=549

Upgraded to 10.11 a few days ago. Been testing since Beta 3 to 8. :awe:

Don Vito Corleone · Oct 1, 2015

For me, El Capitan totally killed Office 2011 (it hangs when it goes to check email in Outlook). This would not be a big deal on my home computer but is a catastrophe at work. I also found that for some reason I couldn't cleanly restore from a pre-EC Time Machine backup, meaning that I had to do a clean install of Yosemite and re-configure everything. Ugh . . .

suklee · Oct 2, 2015

Installed fine on my mid-2012 11" MBA (i7/8GB/256) and mid-2010 21" (i3/12GB) iMac. I couldn't get split view to work on the MBA until I turned (back) on the "Displays have separate Spaces" option in Mission Control settings.

Liking the new San Francisco font (and have since seeing it on iOS 9)... auto hiding the menu bar is a nice touch... every pixel counts!

Rakehellion · Oct 2, 2015

Installed El Capitan. It's still telling me to upgrade to the 10.11.1 beta.

burkevalocks · Oct 2, 2015

I download El Capitan and I think it works great and really fast. As of now there are no complaints about it.

Tegeril · Oct 2, 2015

Rakehellion said:
Installed El Capitan. It's still telling me to upgrade to the 10.11.1 beta.

That's because 10.11.1 beta is newer than 10.11. Opt out in System Preferences -> App Store.

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Installed it on all my machines now (Early 2015 13 rMBP, 2015 12 Macbook, Early 2009 Mac Mini) and it's been a performance boost on *all* machines. Download was quick by the evening, took about 12 minutes on the Mini.

SKORPI0 · Oct 2, 2015

Rakehellion said:
Installed El Capitan. It's still telling me to upgrade to the 10.11.1 beta.

Tegeril said:
That's because 10.11.1 beta is newer than 10.11. Opt out in System Preferences -> App Store.

Correct, something I didn't know myself.

https://developer.apple.com/osx/download/

OS X 10.11.1 beta 2 Pre-release

This is a pre-release version of OS X v10.11.1.
Build 15B22c Posted Date - Sep 29, 2015

OS X El Capitan

Build 15A284 Posted Date -Sep 30, 2015

iluvdeal · Oct 2, 2015

Don Vito Corleone said:
For me, El Capitan totally killed Office 2011 (it hangs when it goes to check email in Outlook). This would not be a big deal on my home computer but is a catastrophe at work. I also found that for some reason I couldn't cleanly restore from a pre-EC Time Machine backup, meaning that I had to do a clean install of Yosemite and re-configure everything. Ugh . . .

I'll be sure to do a full SuperDuper backup before updating then just to be safe.

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