Orthos Testing - Temp jumps straight to 60

cdnbum88

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I just started OCing my E4500 and it hits 3.1 from 2.2 with a voltage of 1.45.

I downloaded Orthos and kick it off. My cpu idle temp is 36-40 tops. As soooon as I start Orthos up it jumps right to 60 and then moves up to high 60's, maybe low 70's with longer times.

What could be causing this odd reading?

Any suggestions welcomed.

David


Mr rig:
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream
CoolerMaster 650w
Tuniq Tower 120
C2D E4500 @ 3.1Ghz ~1.45v
XFX 680i mobo
EVGA 8600GTS 512MB - Zalman Fatal1ty FC-ZV9
OCZ Sli Ready PC6400 5-5-5-12 2T
XP Pro
 

Idontcare

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I wouldn't consider that an "odd reading".

It is quite normal and expected for Orthos to make a near immediate rise in your CPU's operating temperature. That is the purpose of using it...to have your CPU doing computationally intensive calculations which result in the CPU heating up to nearly its maximum expected operating temperature in the configuration you have placed it in.
 

James01

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The rapid temp rise is normal. I'd get a better cooler or lower the speed/voltage if I were you. The low 70's is pretty hot for a C2D.
 

cdnbum88

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Thanks for the updates.

I expected it to jump up with the continued processing, but it literally jump from 37 to 60 as soon as I hit start. Found that odd.

I have a Tuniq 120 tower at lower speeds, but I may need to crank it when I am playing games to keep the CPU cooler.

I seem to run into issues when I take the voltage down anymore. System becomes unstable.
 

Amaroque

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Temps will literally jump within seconds. Low 70's for a peak temp is quite high however.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Again, the problem will be with us interminably as new members post and old members forget the posts they read or overlooked.

But the E4500 is made for an FSB of 800 Mhz. Therefore, taking it from 2.2 Ghz to 3.1 Ghz is a 41% over-clock, and I'm not particularly stunned by the OP's temperatures at 1.45V VCORE.

In other posts in this forum, and in hundreds of posts at "Cases and Cooling" last summer, I and others explained what can be done with air-cooling to reduce these temperatures.

Low-70's degree-Celsius is not excessive for any of these CPUs, regardless of stock-FSB. If those are the core (TJunction) values you are reading, then TCASE is between 55 and 60C at load, with an adequate margin below the spec'd limit or throttling limit of these processors.

Still, since it's your processor, you should check the Intel web-site's processor specification sheet and specification update, chapter 5, for the thermal specs of the E4500.
 

Tempered81

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My 4300 @ 3.3ghz on orthos or Intel TAT jumps to mid-60's off the get-go. At 100% load both cores, it goes to 80 and makes wierd beeps from the motherboard speaker.
Beeps like, "Help!! It's too fucking hot inside this core package!" or like "Please reseat that stock intel cooler with some effective thermal paste and give it some drying time, because this quite frankly, is not working."

When i hear the beeps, i just close tat or orthos and go play some crysis - just for an hour or two before the system locks up.

I just can't tell if its the cpu or 8800gt that is causing the lock-ups.

 

jcenters

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
My 4300 @ 3.3ghz on orthos or Intel TAT jumps to mid-60's off the get-go. At 100% load both cores, it goes to 80 and makes wierd beeps from the motherboard speaker.
Beeps like, "Help!! It's too fucking hot inside this core package!" or like "Please reseat that stock intel cooler with some effective thermal paste and give it some drying time, because this quite frankly, is not working."

When i hear the beeps, i just close tat or orthos and go play some crysis - just for an hour or two before the system locks up.

I just can't tell if its the cpu or 8800gt that is causing the lock-ups.

It's your CPU dummy. Lower your clock speed and voltage before it melts.
 

Ika

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I'm surprised a Tuniq will let a CPU get to such high temperatures. The Tuniq is supposed to be a class better than my Big Typhoon, but my CPU doesn't go past 48C at Orthos load. My BIOS voltage is set to 1.4325 and my CPU frequency is 3.2ghz, so it's not that far off from yours. You might want to check the heatsink is installed correctly.
 

Thor86

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That's what Orthos/Prime95 utils are supposed to do. Max stress and heat on cpus. Of course it's going to jump straight up to 60+ in temps.

Anything in upper 60s and mid-70s is probably on the high temps side where extended use at these temps will most likely degrade the cpu over time. How long? Who knows, these cpus are only 6-12 months old!

I'd try and lower the vcore and see what the max overclock are at 1.425 if you can, and maybe even make sure the heatsink has good contact with the cpu.
 

James01

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Originally posted by: jaredpace

I just can't tell if its the cpu or 8800gt that is causing the lock-ups.

Run the ATI Tool artifact scanner. If that shows up errors, it's your graphics card. I think it's more likely the CPU though.
 

shabby

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Somethings not right, those temps are too high. The quick jump is normal though but i would try re-seating your heatsink.
 
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What program are you using to monitor temps? I've found 0.96 CoreTemp is reporting 15C too high (75C); beta37 Speedfan has the correct temps for me.
 

VirtualLarry

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CoreTemp 0.96 reporting temps 15C too high? I thought that they corrected the temps for M0-stepping CPUs, and now they are reading accurately. I get CoreTemp readings of 84C for my CPU now.
 

alkemyst

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Coretemp has been proven to be more accurate than speedfan. Speedfan and Abit EQ may be using the same code so giving the same results.