O'Reilly still a schmuck

[jonks]

http://www.crooksandliars.com/...und-and-does-the-same/

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvn...agency_77869.asp?c=rss

Saw this on Morning Joe this morning. Yesterday, when commenging on the heckler, Robert Holeman, who had that altercation with Bill Clinton the other day, Bill O opined:

"Now there are plenty of nuts on the campaign trail , but you don?t legitimize them if you are a responsible news agency. However, NBC news gave the Clinton guy airtime."

Of course Bill showed the NBC footage he was criticizing, giving further exposure to the nut, but a few seconds in the name of journalistic integrity is acceptable. Bill's point is generally reasonable, there's nuts out there, so if you are part of a legitimate news agency you shouldn't put them on the air, it only encourages similar behavior. Right? Well...

I guess Bill might have been surprised if he tuned in to Fox one hour later and watched Hannity & Colmes. Because they had on a guest who's viewpoint they were interested in hearing. Any guesses who that guest was before the big reveal? No?

Gee, it was the heckler Robert Holeman! Another shocker. I guess this means Bill O admits Fox is not a responsible news agency. Maybe that's only news to Bill.
*****

Cliffs: BillO blasts NBC for giving airtime to crackpot, 1 hour later Hannity has crackpot on as a guest

 

[Moonbeam]

I pretty much agree with Bill on this and he shouldn't have shown the footage on his show if he were serious. But, unless you are listening to PBS, you are not listening to news, you are listening to blood and circus entertainment designed to deliver eyes and ears to advertisers.

If you want to live in a country with an educated public and responsible citizenship you will have to lobby your representatives to take back the airwaves for the good of the public, and not corporations and have tax payer funded but totally government free media on the order of the BBC.

But the chance of that happening is pretty remote as most of you are too far gone in the department of being brain dead.

You are the vacuous, groomed consumers you were meant to be.

 

[jonks]

You agree that Bill should call NBC an irresponsible news agency, but not call Fox the same for doing the same exact thing?

I agreed with Bill too that they shouldn't give the guy airtime, that wasn't the point of the post though.

 

[Skitzer]

I don't know if it's Bill or his Producer but I have a feeling that they live in their own little world oblivious to anything going on around them. He has done similar things many times over. It's called the right hand not knowing what the left is doing?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
You agree that Bill should call NBC an irresponsible news agency, but not call Fox the same for doing the same exact thing?

I agreed with Bill too that they shouldn't give the guy airtime, that wasn't the point of the post though.

The question is do you really expect anything different from that network?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
You agree that Bill should call NBC an irresponsible news agency, but not call Fox the same for doing the same exact thing?

I agreed with Bill too that they shouldn't give the guy airtime, that wasn't the point of the post though.

No, I said what I meant to say and that is there can be no hypocrisy in calling one station for being an irresponsible news outlet and not the other because neither are news outlets. They are what I said they are, eye hooks.

 

[blackangst1]

<yawn> YAFBT

0/10 for originality

 

[FoBoT]

don't be a blooter

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
I don't know if it's Bill or his Producer but I have a feeling that they live in their own little world oblivious to anything going on around them. He has done similar things many times over. It's called the right hand not knowing what the left is doing?

Yes.

And how odd? Someone here recognizes that the right, including Fox News is not all in "lockstep".

They are diferent shows with different producers. They are opinion shows, not "straight news". They have different opinions.

I didn't see the O'Reilly show, but it does sound stupid to complain about another network showing the guy, then show the whole newclip of the other network's interview with the guy.

Fern

 

[sandorski]

I'm totally unaware of what this is all about, but there's always the possibility that O'Reilly(cough total schmuck)made the point because he knew the guy was coming on after him and wanted to give the screws to his Bosses. Or something. If not, we all know that Fox News doesn't deserve to exist, this is just another undermining situation. Let them Darwin themselves.

 

[teclis1023]

lol, oh Bill.

 

[superstition]

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2157313&enterthread=y

I'm not sure why the lynching party topic is locked, so here it is here, in case anyone is interested.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: superstition
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2157313&enterthread=y

I'm not sure why the lynching party topic is locked, so here it is here, in case anyone is interested.

Interesting commentary of yours.
Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

Read the sticky forum rules.

 

[superstition]

Ok, I just read this page. Is it the one?

I don't see the issue, unless the topic was considered "flamebait/trolling", but the fact that his lynching comment is controversial isn't my fault. That's what makes it worth discussing.

edit: This forum has a rule that requires commentary in an opening post?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: superstition
Ok, I just read this page. Is it the one?

I don't see the issue, unless the topic was considered "flamebait/trolling", but the fact that his lynching comment is controversial isn't my fault. That's what makes it worth discussing.

edit: This forum has a rule that requires commentary in an opening post?

Yep. "If you believe something is important enough to post, you must have some opinion of your own about the content of the article or link."

 

[superstition]

That statement, however, doesn't mandate posting an opinion in the opening post. Still, I'll keep the rule in mind.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: superstition
That statement, however, doesn't mandate posting an opinion in the opening post. Still, I'll keep the rule in mind.

Correct, that was just the rationale behind the rule. See forum sticky here:http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=1833582&enterthread=y

The text of the post for your edification here:

Topic Title: Please Include Your Own Input with Links and Articles.
To keep P&N a discussion forum and reduce the amount of inflamatory troll posts, please post more than simple links or complete quotes of articles that can be found by anyone. If you believe something is important enough to post, you must have some opinion of your own about the content of the article or link.

We understand this cannot be a hard and fast rule. It is possible to state an opinion in the Title or Topic Summary of your post, but unless an article is of sufficiently earth shaking importance, simply posting the title or headline of an article would probably not be sufficient.

We will try our best to be fair and understanding when deciding whether to lock a thread for this reason. Please help us maintain a high level of discussions on this forum.

Thank you,

AnandTech Moderator

 

[superstition]

The problem with that rule is related to the psychological effect known as framing. When someone is required to post an opinion with a piece of news, that person is being required to frame the discussion, which causes framing bias to be a factor. However, this isn't my forum so I will abide by the rule even though I feel it's arbitrary.