Ordering a gun in the mail

[UnatcoAgent]

I'm asking because this happens in Elephant (the movie).

The UPS guy shows up and hands the kids that carbine, or whatever it was, they open the box and it's good to go.

What the hell ?

 

[K1052]

I get guns from UPS all the time.

I hold an ATF license to do so.

 

[UnatcoAgent]

That's not what's being asked.

I didn't think that a gun would come pre-assembled.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Magnum375
That's not what's being asked.

I didn't think that a gun would come pre-assembled.

Mine come complete (fully assembled) and ready to go, minus ammo of course.

 

[UnatcoAgent]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Magnum375
That's not what's being asked.

I didn't think that a gun would come pre-assembled.

Mine come complete (fully assembled) and ready to go, minus ammo of course.

Got it - thanks!

 

[phantom309]

I'm not familiar with the movie, but you can't just order a firearm through the mail or off the Net and have it shipped to your home. The gun has to be shipped to a Federally licenced firearms dealer first. The gun is shipped to the dealer, the dealer calls you, you fill out a bunch of forms and pay a fee, then you can take it home (or begin your waiting period depending on what state you're in).

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: phantom309
I'm not familiar with the movie, but you can't just order a firearm through the mail or off the Net and have it shipped to your home. The gun has to be shipped to a Federally licenced firearms dealer first. The gun is shipped to the dealer, the dealer calls you, you fill out a bunch of forms and pay a fee, then you can take it home (or begin your waiting period depending on what state you're in).

That is not entirely true.

Any firearm produced before 1898 (IIRC) is classified as an antique and can be aquired without going through an FFL dealer.

I hold a Curio and Relic license from the ATF that enables me to order firearms that are more than 50 years old or have special exemption from the ATF.

For most other new firearms purchases you will need to go through a dealer though.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: phantom309
I'm not familiar with the movie, but you can't just order a firearm through the mail or off the Net and have it shipped to your home. The gun has to be shipped to a Federally licenced firearms dealer first. The gun is shipped to the dealer, the dealer calls you, you fill out a bunch of forms and pay a fee, then you can take it home (or begin your waiting period depending on what state you're in).

That is not entirely true.

Any firearm produced before 1898 (IIRC) is classified as an antique and can be aquired without going through an FFL dealer.

I hold a Curio and Relic license from the ATF that enables me to order firearms that are more than 50 years old or have special exemption from the ATF.

For most other new firearms purchases you will need to go through a dealer though.

Is a firearm produced before 1898 really still called a firearm, as opposed to a museum piece?

 

[KB]

They come preassembled and no background checks needed if you order them from EBAY. There was a news story about criminals doing just this a while back.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: phantom309
I'm not familiar with the movie, but you can't just order a firearm through the mail or off the Net and have it shipped to your home. The gun has to be shipped to a Federally licenced firearms dealer first. The gun is shipped to the dealer, the dealer calls you, you fill out a bunch of forms and pay a fee, then you can take it home (or begin your waiting period depending on what state you're in).

That is not entirely true.

Any firearm produced before 1898 (IIRC) is classified as an antique and can be aquired without going through an FFL dealer.

I hold a Curio and Relic license from the ATF that enables me to order firearms that are more than 50 years old or have special exemption from the ATF.

For most other new firearms purchases you will need to go through a dealer though.

Is a firearm produced before 1898 really still called a firearm, as opposed to a museum piece?

As far as I know it is, they just call it "antique" for some reason. I don't know why they decided that as the cut off date.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: phantom309
I'm not familiar with the movie, but you can't just order a firearm through the mail or off the Net and have it shipped to your home. The gun has to be shipped to a Federally licenced firearms dealer first. The gun is shipped to the dealer, the dealer calls you, you fill out a bunch of forms and pay a fee, then you can take it home (or begin your waiting period depending on what state you're in).

That is not entirely true.

Any firearm produced before 1898 (IIRC) is classified as an antique and can be aquired without going through an FFL dealer.

I hold a Curio and Relic license from the ATF that enables me to order firearms that are more than 50 years old or have special exemption from the ATF.

For most other new firearms purchases you will need to go through a dealer though.

Is a firearm produced before 1898 really still called a firearm, as opposed to a museum piece?

As far as I know it is, they just call it "antique" for some reason. I don't know why they decided that as the cut off date.

Ahh ok, I was just curious, that's all 🙂

So how does one acquire an ATF license anyhow?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: phantom309
I'm not familiar with the movie, but you can't just order a firearm through the mail or off the Net and have it shipped to your home. The gun has to be shipped to a Federally licenced firearms dealer first. The gun is shipped to the dealer, the dealer calls you, you fill out a bunch of forms and pay a fee, then you can take it home (or begin your waiting period depending on what state you're in).

That is not entirely true.

Any firearm produced before 1898 (IIRC) is classified as an antique and can be aquired without going through an FFL dealer.

I hold a Curio and Relic license from the ATF that enables me to order firearms that are more than 50 years old or have special exemption from the ATF.

For most other new firearms purchases you will need to go through a dealer though.

Is a firearm produced before 1898 really still called a firearm, as opposed to a museum piece?

As far as I know it is, they just call it "antique" for some reason. I don't know why they decided that as the cut off date.

Ahh ok, I was just curious, that's all 🙂

So how does one acquire an ATF license anyhow?

There are some good directions here on how to get a C&R license.

For a full FFL license (01 license for 'modern' firearms) you would have to have a storefront. Since my primary focus it older military surplus weapons the C&R license works out quite well for me.

 

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: phantom309
I'm not familiar with the movie, but you can't just order a firearm through the mail or off the Net and have it shipped to your home. The gun has to be shipped to a Federally licenced firearms dealer first. The gun is shipped to the dealer, the dealer calls you, you fill out a bunch of forms and pay a fee, then you can take it home (or begin your waiting period depending on what state you're in).

That is not entirely true.

Any firearm produced before 1898 (IIRC) is classified as an antique and can be aquired without going through an FFL dealer.

I hold a Curio and Relic license from the ATF that enables me to order firearms that are more than 50 years old or have special exemption from the ATF.

For most other new firearms purchases you will need to go through a dealer though.

Is a firearm produced before 1898 really still called a firearm, as opposed to a museum piece?

As far as I know it is, they just call it "antique" for some reason. I don't know why they decided that as the cut off date.

Ahh ok, I was just curious, that's all 🙂

So how does one acquire an ATF license anyhow?

There are some good directions here on how to get a C&R license.

For a full FFL license (01 license for 'modern' firearms) you would have to have a storefront. Since my primary focus it older military surplus weapons the C&R license works out quite well for me.

K1052, you've got a PM.

 

[klah]

Originally posted by: KB
They come preassembled and no background checks needed if you order them from EBAY. There was a news story about criminals doing just this a while back.

In that case you are ordering them from private citizens so it would be the same as buying a firearm from a newspaper ad.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: KB
They come preassembled and no background checks needed if you order them from EBAY. There was a news story about criminals doing just this a while back.

eBay does not allow the sale of guns, and they're pretty anal about it.

Gunbroker sprang up to fill the void, but they honor all existing laws (& have an extensive list of FFL holders to accept interstate transfers/sales).