Oral sex-related cancer at 30-year high - New Scientist, 2/28/08

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dug777

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Oct 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: irishScott
tonsil and throat cancers affect about two in every 100,000 adults in the US


Chance of dying from skydiving (assuming 1 jump per year): 1/100,000
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/skydiving8.htm

Chance of dying from OP: 1/50,000

Chance of being struck by lightning in your lifetime (assuming 80 years): 1/5000
http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/medical.htm

Chances of dying in a car/vehicle accident over your lifetime: 1/80
http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm

The list goes on at the last link. Assuming you don't sleep around, this shouldn't be much of a problem.

 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: IGBT


Oral sex-related cancer at 30-year high - New Scientist, 2/28/08 - "The incidence of oral cancer due to a virus transmitted during oral sex has increased steeply over the last 30 years ... The rise was largest among young white males, suggesting this group is more likely to have oral sex at a younger age now than it was 20 years ago ... What is not in doubt, says Gillison, is the need to consider giving boys the HPV vaccine, to protect them from the disease ... These strains are also thought to cause oral cancer, as well as penile and anal cancer" - I don't think people realize how serious head and neck cancer is. The survival rate is only 25% if you get surgery and radiation and a lot less without the radiation. With the radiation, you fry your taste sensors, saliva glands and pituitary gland. The pituitary gland is responsible for a lot of important hormones so the best you can look forward to is a life with everything tasting like cardboard, a constantly annoying dry mouth and constant fatigue. With the surgery you can loose your vocal cords and end up breathing through a tube and disfigurement. See Roger Ebert. I refused radiation because I didn't want to live like that and somehow made it through it with just some scars. Anyway, that's my plug to get the vaccine even if you are a male.

Cancerous Growths: Mouth Growths - "if the cancer has spread to lymph nodes, the 5-year survival rate is only 25%"



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well, they are using this as a basis for (pushing) making the gardasil vaccine available to boys now.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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anal cancer- I think I would consider this the worst kind of cancer.

 

Mr Pickles

Diamond Member
Feb 24, 2006
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Hey if you click on text you'll see that the last part, the part that everyone seems to be making fun of, isn't in there. It looks like IGBT actually had this happen to him. Why don't we bring the jokes down to a simmer before IGBT responds to clear things up.

Did this happen to you OP?
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

Not judgin' or anything, but I generally don't date girls with dicks.;)

Why not? If you don't it lowers your chances of getting lucky!
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

So females are equally at fault for having a case of "where can I stick my dick next?!"

I don't know what kind of "women" you know but most dont have a case of wondering that...
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

HPV is ubiquitous. Its so prevalent, that if you're over age 26, they dont recommend women even bother with gardasil as its extremely likely theyve already been infected. Hate to break it to you, but even if your tongue has hit the vulva only once, you're probably already screwed.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

So females are equally at fault for having a case of "where can I stick my dick next?!"

I don't know what kind of "women" you know but most dont have a case of wondering that...


no the have the "where can i find a dick to insert next" issue, same thing on the receiving end
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Fritzo
anal cancer- I think I would consider this the worst kind of cancer.

testicular cancer would probably be worse.

Anal cancer is MUCH, MUCH worse. Fortunately, it is incredibly rare, and typically requires massive amounts of traumatic anal sex in order to even be considered at risk.
 

Gibsons

Lifer
Aug 14, 2001
12,529
33
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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

HPV is ubiquitous. Its so prevalent, that if you're over age 26, they dont recommend women even bother with gardasil as its extremely likely theyve already been infected. Hate to break it to you, but even if your tongue has hit the vulva only once, you're probably already screwed.

I don't think that's correct. Link

What's really important are the high risk types (16 and 18 in particular), which are pretty rare overall . So even if you're infected by the more common types, the vaccination should protect against infection with the high risk types.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: irishScott
tonsil and throat cancers affect about two in every 100,000 adults in the US


Chance of dying from skydiving (assuming 1 jump per year): 1/100,000
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/skydiving8.htm

Chance of dying from OP: 1/50,000

Chance of being struck by lightning in your lifetime (assuming 80 years): 1/5000
http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/medical.htm

Chances of dying in a car/vehicle accident over your lifetime: 1/80
http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm

The list goes on at the last link. Assuming you don't sleep around, this shouldn't be much of a problem.

Yeah, I'm not about to stop licking the vagine because of this possibility. :p
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
16,815
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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

HPV is ubiquitous. Its so prevalent, that if you're over age 26, they dont recommend women even bother with gardasil as its extremely likely theyve already been infected. Hate to break it to you, but even if your tongue has hit the vulva only once, you're probably already screwed.

I don't think that's correct. Link

What's really important are the high risk types (16 and 18 in particular), which are pretty rare overall . So even if you're infected by the more common types, the vaccination should protect against infection with the high risk types.

Its correct, I do this for a living. I'm screening a pap smear right now even.

HPV 16 and 18 arent all that rare. Them causing cancer is relatively rare (less than 1 in 10,000 if youre infected), but cervical cancer without 16 or 18 is nearly non-existent. Its not as if your immune system is unable to fight off 16 or 18, but its thought that repeated exposure is what really causes the problem. The point of gardasil is to have those immune defenses ready before even the first exposure, but once you've been exposed, its fairly pointless.
 

Jschmuck2

Diamond Member
Jul 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

For that to happen, you'd have to have a partner.
 

SirStev0

Lifer
Nov 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

I don't completely disagree with you... I think we should take an active role in making sure we aren't putting each other in risk...

My issue is the censorship of science, health and progress... because... god forbid... teenagers might have sex... OMG!!... SEX!!!

HPV cause a STERILIZING, DEADLY, HARD TO DETECT, UNTREATABLE form of CANCER...
this oral cancer isn't even the big deal in my opinion... Cervical cancer in women, especially young women is the huge issue...


How is a vaccine that would give immunity to certain strains of the virus a bad thing?

 

Gibsons

Lifer
Aug 14, 2001
12,529
33
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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

HPV is ubiquitous. Its so prevalent, that if you're over age 26, they dont recommend women even bother with gardasil as its extremely likely theyve already been infected. Hate to break it to you, but even if your tongue has hit the vulva only once, you're probably already screwed.

I don't think that's correct. Link

What's really important are the high risk types (16 and 18 in particular), which are pretty rare overall . So even if you're infected by the more common types, the vaccination should protect against infection with the high risk types.

Its correct, I do this for a living. I'm screening a pap smear right now even.

HPV 16 and 18 arent all that rare. Them causing cancer is relatively rare (less than 1 in 10,000 if youre infected), but cervical cancer without 16 or 18 is nearly non-existent. Its not as if your immune system is unable to fight off 16 or 18, but its thought that repeated exposure is what really causes the problem. The point of gardasil is to have those immune defenses ready before even the first exposure, but once you've been exposed, its fairly pointless.
I posted the wrong link. Read this.

Or the pertinent part: "Among US females 14 through 59 years old, the combined prevalence of HPV-6, HPV-11, HPV-16, and HPV-18 was 3.4%. The prevalence of each vaccine type was as follows: HPV-6, 1.3%; HPV-11, 0.1%; HPV-16, 1.5%; and HPV-18, 0.8%. The combined prevalence of the 2 high-risk types, HPV-16 and HPV-18, was approximately 2% (1.5% + 0.8% ? 0.1% who have both)."
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
16,815
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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ironwing
I blame Bill Clinton.

I blame the religious right for lobbying the HPV vaccine for so long...

I blame people thinking that the partner they're with that night is safe. Too much unsafe, rampant forms of sex. That's not a plug at abstinence. That's just plain fact. If people would only at least get to know the partner they're with then the cases would drop dramatically. But all we have is a horrid case of "Where can I stick my dick next?!" (And I'm not just blaming males, females are equally at fault).

With one partner, I will only have to ask her to be tested once. And I won't worry about it again. Could she cheat on me with someone who does? Sure.. But my chances are still lower than if I'm in bed with a new girl each night.

I'll just leave it at that.

HPV is ubiquitous. Its so prevalent, that if you're over age 26, they dont recommend women even bother with gardasil as its extremely likely theyve already been infected. Hate to break it to you, but even if your tongue has hit the vulva only once, you're probably already screwed.

I don't think that's correct. Link

What's really important are the high risk types (16 and 18 in particular), which are pretty rare overall . So even if you're infected by the more common types, the vaccination should protect against infection with the high risk types.

Its correct, I do this for a living. I'm screening a pap smear right now even.

HPV 16 and 18 arent all that rare. Them causing cancer is relatively rare (less than 1 in 10,000 if youre infected), but cervical cancer without 16 or 18 is nearly non-existent. Its not as if your immune system is unable to fight off 16 or 18, but its thought that repeated exposure is what really causes the problem. The point of gardasil is to have those immune defenses ready before even the first exposure, but once you've been exposed, its fairly pointless.
I posted the wrong link. Read this.

Or the pertinent part: "Among US females 14 through 59 years old, the combined prevalence of HPV-6, HPV-11, HPV-16, and HPV-18 was 3.4%. The prevalence of each vaccine type was as follows: HPV-6, 1.3%; HPV-11, 0.1%; HPV-16, 1.5%; and HPV-18, 0.8%. The combined prevalence of the 2 high-risk types, HPV-16 and HPV-18, was approximately 2% (1.5% + 0.8% ? 0.1% who have both)."

Prevalence isnt the issue - incidence is. Theres also over 100 more strains of HPV, several of which are also classified as high risk.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
41,862
2,090
126
Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Fritzo
anal cancer- I think I would consider this the worst kind of cancer.

testicular cancer would probably be worse.

I think that whole area should be off limits to cancer. That's just wrong. Why can you get like hair cancer instead??